Comments on: Some iPhone customers put on hold

As iPhone supply finally starts to dwindle, reports emerge of problems with the device's activation process.

[MacReseller]

Latest version of OS

You did not mention that some people returned their iPhones because it would only work with the latest Mac OS and not early versions. They did not want to spend even more money to upgrade the OS.

[Thomas, David]

That's Odd

It is odd, that people would spend 500-600 dollars on an iPhone,
after trying to get one, and then return the device because their
system did not meet the requirements that were spelled out for
quite some time.

The system requirements have certainly not
been a secret. ...

[m.meister]

you can count those on one hand

You can probably count the number of people you describe on one
hand.

If you are using older versions of OS X, you probably aren't
jumping on the latest thing, especially on day one. If you are
buying the latest thing (on day one), you probably have the latest
OS X.

[Gomphos]

iPhone & Panther...

...don't mix. When docked, iPhoto launches and lets you
download the pix on the iPhone, but that's it. iTunes doesn't see
it even after updating. I spent the morning after debating what
to do; a guy at Guitar World offered to let me activate it using
the in-store Mac if he could try it out afterwards (I decided
against this kind offer only because I didn't want to submit my
iTunes account data on a public box). I finally got it activated
using a friend's G4 PowerBook.

[jamesob5]

iBrick

50 hours and counting...

I'm a new AT&T customer and not porting my current number over.
Called AT&T 8 times and they keep getting dumber everytime I call.

Help me

[Thomas, David]

Don't Call AT&T

In fact, you don't need to call anyone. The problem is internal to
AT&T. The issue will be resolved, if it has not already. You need
to keep your iPhone plugged into the dock. I have a sneaking
suspicion there is a "queue" somewhere. If you un-dock, and
dock your iPhone again, you will notice that it starts the AT&T part
of the process over.

[garyleethompson]

Activation Problems or Competitive Subterfuge?

After converting two phone numbers (one flawlessly, the other
not), I could not help but think that Sprint, Verizon and others
that were feeling the competitive heat were using any slight
excuse they could to slow the process to make AT&T and Apple
look bad.

Not outright not changing numbers or being slow, but using any
"reasonable" error to slow the process. I was told by my
previous provider that the account number provided by AT&T
was wrong by a digit, when it wasn't, which got me to
thinking....

Sort of makes you wonder also if Microsoft is behind the
decision by Universal to not renew its contract with iTunes..... ??
??

[hal Summers]

Subterfuge by whom?

I wonder if AT&T is running their system on some version of
Windows?

Hmmm.

[Shakingmy head]

No Conspiracy Here

ATT/Cingular does not need any help to deliver bad service and a poor experience. I was a long time customer and dumped them 6 months ago returning $800 worth of product and they really didn't care. I went with T-Mobile and never looked back. ATT Cingular hires store associates who couldn't make it flipping bugers. It is a shame Apple picked a really bad partner :-(

[Thomas, David]

No conspiracy

Only someone dropping the ball.

The number of
activations isn't an issue. It was "supposed" to be all digital.
And I hate companies and people who get something "sort of"
working, and call it a success. (Those guys in NY who think it went
well).

[oxtail01]

MS don't have the smarts

They just act out all the horror movies where everyone acts dumb - just like you!

[stopher2475]

Yep. This sucks

Been trying to get my iBrick activated since Friday night. 4 calls to customer service and still waiting. The last guy said I would lose my 600 minute plan and all my rollover minutes. At this point I was like ok. I'll get it activated and see if they can fix that later.

[dansterpower]

This is BS

I have activated two iphones.

The first, on an existing account, took exactly 2 minutes and 40
seconds. This INCLUDED the iTunes portion.

The second, on a new account, took 4 minutes and 22 seconds.

My brothers activation, all the way across the nation in CT, on an
existing account, took him 3 minutes and 33 seconds.

The activation issues are coming from user error in Zip Code
mismatch.

This is FUD!

IPhone is the best phone, minicomputer and and portable
multimedia device ever. And not due to the features list, but
due to the overall package, the "Gestalt" (look this word up) and
the screen. Battery life blows my treo and blackberry pearl away
WITH WIFI and BLUETOOTH on. No bugs.

[zboot]

This entire reply is bulls**t

BTW - this comment took 0 minutes and 43 seconds to write.

[Charleston Charge]

re:This is BS

Of course this has to be BS and FUD because it's obvious that YOU and your brother account for EVERYBODY that bought an iPhone.

[slickuser]

Buy! Buy!! Buy!!!

People, buy the iPhone! It is the best phone ever! It is just a matter of time before Apple provides firmware updates to provide more features which are not found today!

Buy! Buy!! Buy!!!

[DJohnsonII]

Can't buy in the UK

Us guys here in the UK would love to buy it but Apple have not even decided whether O2 or Vodafone will have the exclusive on it yet! I reckon we've got several months to wait still yet. :-(

[mcobian]

It took me 3 minutes....

I must have been lucky, i am an existing AT&T customer and it took
me less than the expected 3 minutes to activate the iPhone, it went
extremly smooth, and i love it! Plus, i am on the west coast so i
started the activation after 3 hours of people already activating
theirs....

[christougher]

I had a problem, too

I also had activation issues and couldn't review the iPhone on my blog until the following morning because of them.

More details:

http://www.appleiphonereview.com/iphone-release-date/iphone-activation-issues-iphone-review-delayed/

[wylbur]

activation hard, try gloves!

If activation was hard, try using this thing with gloves on while
strolling along Lake Shore Drive in January! P.T. Barnum wishes
everybody a warm winter.

[jb_iphone]

lmao

This is why I live in the south. You only need gloves 3 days a
year. It will be interesting to see what people say when it does
get cold. As for using the phone while walking, I can not do it
very well now or with my old phone. I think favorites calls should
be easy once I set them up but I am a person who walks fast
and has a bad sense of direction. Sorry to hear people are
having activation issues. I went to the apple store yesterday for
an iPhone class and there were 4 guys with me. We had no
problem activating it was the apple employee who said it took 18
hours for his iphone to activate. Based on that sample ( I know
it is too small to be accurate) there is a 20% problem. I wonder
what the real numbers are and how many are user errors?

[vesuvius2007]

This Changes Everything

Now that we have the iphone, the world will never be the same!

Now, instead of being bogged down in the fast lane behind some idiot going 52 MPH while yakking to nobody about nothing on his Motorola RAZR, now I will be bogged down in the fast lane behind some idiot going 52 MPH while yakking to nobody about nothing on his Apple iphone.

Who gives a $hit?

[BubbleMemory]

Now I understand why

iTunes was slow this weekend. Everyone was activating their new toys.

[inachu]

This smells!

I will buy the iphone for all the features excpet for the phone itself. So I have to buy the phone then activate it then tell AT&T I no longer want their services. Pretty stupid if you ask me since I just want the ipod and video and Safari features. Everything else is pure junk.

[Vegaman_Dan]

The unit doesn't work unless activated

If you cancel your AT&T contract, then you're left back with having an inoperable device like it was when you took it out of the box. All the device's features are tied to AT&T.

[CannuckComment]

Bad Story...Place Blame Where it's Due!!

Why do people not learn about a product/service they are
buying??

Why is it then that they blame both companies for their lack of
knowledge.

I'm an existing ATT customer and had NO trouble at all setting
up. Took no longer than 3miniutes to activate.

Come on CNET, be honest and blame the consumer rather than
the company in this case.

[Tom Krazit]

How do you know it's always the consumer's fault?

The story says that people were giving warning ahead of time about not using their business accounts. But other people with regular accounts had problems too, just look at the comments on this story, on this (http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9738300-7.html) one, and on Apple's site. This was a huge launch and it went pretty smoothly, but we have to point out that it wasn't flawless.

[Thomas, David]

Syncnoposis or whatever

I noticed your comment over there, on that story as
well.

They failed, and are stating they are pleased with the
results. They are part of that system. Getting something
partially right, still means you got it wrong. This mentality is
indicative of peoples desires to soothe their fragile egos.

I
have to wonder, if this is that generation, that came right after
me, when they decided that grading children was bad for them.
Well folks, look at what we have reaped from this idiot approach
to education, and child rearing. Lawyers who defraud the
country (H1B visas), and say the aren't breaking any laws (no
morality). Software companies that if only one transaction gets
through, considers it a success, while in this industry, when one
doesn't go through something is wrong. We make excuses for
incompetence and are afraid to be extremely critical, vocal, and
suggestive (except to tell people to go F--k themselves).

On
top of that, this idea that the world is only relative to YOU, is
unhealthy at best!!.

You should learn to think how
you are relevant to the world. No the other way
around.

[g8crapachino]

You should follow your own advice...

Why are you accusing CNET of being dishonest? There's a little hypocracy in saying "Place Blame Where it's Due" then blaming CNET.

CNET is not blaming consumers. CNet is only reporting what consumers are doing.

[jesmac418]

Yes, customers have to take some of the blame

I do think some customers to eager and never read the
information provided them. Was a big part of their bad
experience.
More of them ******* and moaned than realizing they made the
mistake. I really do not have much simpathy for a idiot who
waits for hours for a cell phone/ iPod. Nice little tech toy for
geeks with nothing better to do I guess. But I figure $100 a
month for a pretty phone with a slow network and a difficult
touchscreen for a input device. Im sure Apple is laughing all the
way to the bank!
Im sure their will be plenty of them on ebay in a couple of
months.

[Capt. Trips]

Oh, yeah. What a huge problem!

A friend of mine went home with his new iPhone, and spent all of 10 minutes getting it set up. What a hassle! And then he had to spend another 3 minutes figuring out how to use it. Geez! I would much rather take 30 minutes trying to navigate around my Samsung to find out where it decided to send my photos. And of course, the truncated text versions of the limited internet pages I can get are much preferable to the full graphic HTML pages accessable to the iPhone.

Give us a break, CNET. Your story is much like the PC talking points that try to make any Apple glitch sound worse than the multitude of ever-present Windows foulups and endless patches for an operating system that trys so very hard to look like Mac, but still tastes like crap.

[aabcdefghij987654321]

Read the Headline

It states that "some" people had problems. Not "all".

[Vegaman_Dan]

It's all over the news

CNN. AP. NBC. etc.

You name it, there's a story about it. That many people complaining can't be a fluke. There's something wrong with the AT&T system that will need to be resolved. Blaming the customers is never a good answer for a company that is hoping to keep them as customers.

[kylegas]

Activation is NOT the only problem!

My wife has an iPhone - she just couldn't wait... However, she switched from her current carrier (Sprint) to AT&T, and the coverage is terrible. First, the phone lies! She'll have 4 bars, and then it will drop to one instantly while standing in the same spot. It's been three weeks since she dropped a call, and now, it happens at least twice a day. Our calling area is very populated (right in Sunnyvale).. AT&T has problems. She also misses several calls a day where the phone simply doesn't ring - just right to voicemail.

People claim that their voice service with this company is "fine", but I seriously doubt these claims. Either people are not heavy users, or simply don't mind dropped calls of this frequency. She can't even travel from work to home without dropped areas. In contrast, my admittedly crummy and wildly boring Verizon phone hasn't dropped a call in... I don't even remember!

AT&T is broken.

[psychosmurf]

Not sure about ATT but Cingular was good. . .

. . . and still is. I use my cell phone extensively because I don't use land lines any longer and I don't have this problem. I get dropped calls maybe once every few months and it usually happens when I'm driving.

Seems like the problem lies with your phone and not the carrier.

[ralfthedog]

Its where you live.

Every carrier has good and bad spots. Where I live, Sprint is by far the best and Verison bites the big pickle. Other places Verison is by far the best.

If ATT is not good where you live, don't use them.

[neblinc]

Converting windows mobile phone into iphone

http://lifehacker.com/software/hack-attack/turn-your-windows-mobile-phone-into-an-iphone-269055.php

[Kimsh]

Price for service

iPhone is a premium price device, with the typical Apple hardware and software wont play with others approach. If you are selling something at that sort of price, expect to recieve criticism for problems. Microsoft does, why should others not?

[ThatScienceGuy]

You freaking iPhonies

You freaking iPhonies have screwed up my service. I've been with the new-old AT&T forever. HAD nice somewhat fast 3G service for my blackjack. Today, it's taking ELEVEN rings for the calling party before my cell phone begins to ring once, and I can't get ANY data connection at all... with all four 3G bars showing, in areas that have normally great service.

Thank the Good Lord my contract just expired... If this lasts more than a week, I'm gone, so you guys can have some of my previously superfast bandwidth to split up and use for your worthlessly slow iPhone connections.

Thanks a lot!

**pffft**

[Shakingmy head]

Go T-Mobile

I dumped ATT Cingular months ago and glad I did. Lots of friends and colleagues are following.

[kwilsonjr]

My Treo Does Same Thing for Years.

I don't know how they can lure all the unsuspecting buyers in to the Apple Pie when all the iPhones features have been available on the Treo for years.

Even my old Treo 650 PDA Phone purchased in early 2005 came with mp3 player, video player, bluetooth, live TV, EVDO Internet and more.

I've had my Treo 700 since it's release in 2006 and it will play DVD movies you have converted and transferred to your phone, sync with iTunes or Winamp, Media Player or any other software capable of detecting an mp3 device. In addition to providing GPS with my TomTom Bluetooth kit and High Speed Internet with EVDO Rev.A. Plus so many other features and third party programs it would take me a full day to talk about them all.

I can plug my Treo into my laptop via the USB sync cable or wirelessly through bluetooth and give the laptop high speed Internet wherever I am...on the beach, the side of the road, coffee shop etc. Download music and video...oh and use it as a phone.

I just don't understand the stampede mentality for a device that has nothing going for it but it's advertising. I've had all the features of iPhone for years.

Ken Wilson
San Diego, CA

[dansterpower]

Treo's Screen Not even close to IPhone

My Treo 750's screen is not even in the same universe as teh
160ppi iPhone Screen.

The Treo cannot play video and photoslides at the same
resolution and size that an iPhone can.

In this area, the iPhone is a whole new device: it is an electronic
sales device and electronic business card as well as a smart
phone. The Treo cannot do this, not with the same user-
friendliness and impact.

I can hand my iPhone to a client and they immediately know who
to use it, watch video, zoom in on Ads or Books we build, etc.

You don't have these features: not even close.