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competitors or marketing factors.
I wouldn't call sony a weak competitor, whom back when the
ipod launched was making digital music players. Nor was the
offerings of many of the players back then poor or lacking style.
What has been lost in time is that Apple actually took a concept
and made it work better. They gave an mp3 player a great
design with some easy to use software and put a hard drive in it,
which no one was doing. This changed the game totally.
Suddenly I didnt have a 32 meg limit I has 5GB, thats a huge
difference and then the design of the scroll wheel came into
play. Why didnt anyone else do the scroll wheel at the time, no
one else was making 5gb mp3 players so scrolling through a
handful of songs wasnt an issue.
I think this is what Apple feels they are doing this time around
with phones, taking a market that has many different phone OSs
(whom hasn't spent a heap of time learning a new phone or
doesnt use all the features..common on)
Puting together some redesigned tech in a stylish new package,
with easy to use software and a unique combination of touch
screen and motion sensors and software in hardware.
Will the iphone work out the same as the ipod story, I don't
know.
But how quickly realities of markets in the past are changed to
present a half picture to back up an agurement.
leveraged three unique elements (then added a fourth later):
iTunes software, the new 5GB microdrive, and Firewire. Other
players used mix-and-match software, tiny flash drives or 2.5"
laptop drives, and USB 1.1. Nothing else on the market came
close. The iTunes Music Store came along to finally provide iPod
users end-to-end, instant-gratification.
Another huge advantage Apple had was its ability to release the
iPod exclusively on the Mac. In a smaller, more enclosed
environment, Apple was able to spend less time troubleshooting
the complexity of the Windows terrain, and perfect the system
on MacOSX before migrating out to Windows. They don't have
that luxury with the iPhone now, but at the time, this solution
worked perfectly for a smaller Apple and their fledgling
consumer electronics initiative.
Apple took some major risks with the iPod, and many in the
media wrote the iPod off. Now some have "deconstructed the
formula" of iPod's success and are painting a completely
different scenario with the iPhone, one in which Apple may not
do as well as they think.
We all know that smart phones could be a LOT smarter and
friendlier. As cool as many of the features on the iPhone appear
to be, I'll need to see how it all ultimately comes together, but
given Steve Jobs' track record, I'd trust him and his team more
than just about anybody else to give me what I want in a smart
phone.
You can count on Apple to either offer a better product, or to at
least shake up competitors so that they improve theirs. In the
end, everybody benefits.
As mentioned in some of the other posts, the iPod was derided initially, the computers are put down as is the OS, Apple TV is being called a failure...
Apple, like almost all companies, tries to do a good to great job in creating it's products and services. It also does a very admirable job of promotion. The iPhone is hotly anticipated by almost everyone. The hype meter is off the charts and everyone is waiting for the phone to work great, fail miserably, or fall somewhere in-between.
One thing that Apple appears to be doing (who really knows though other than Steve Jobs) with the iPhone is under promise and over deliver. We've heard rumors that third-party apps will be possible, rumors that stock piles are being built to satisfy demand - we'll just have to wait for this next Apple performance to play out in front of us.
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will all be very displeased. I am very skeptical of the battery life
Apple is claiming because historically when they give you
numbers like this, you get half that or worse. An annoyance on a
music player, but on your phone and organizer that would really,
really make the device a source of frustration.
My other worry with apple is the declining hardware quality.
Apple used to make notebooks that you could keep for years
and years, now my wife and I burn through them and they
always seem to need service that isn't covered by Apple Care
and costs as much as a new laptop.
Maybe it will be the summer Steve Jobs get indicted. The feds
are still gunning for him and his lawyers, stay tuned for more
developments as the case gets built.
for about a month, and the battery drained. (Hint: it won't fully
charge up after that.) So I turned to the Internets, and bought a
replacement battery for about $50, I believe, and installed the
new one. Better than ever.
On the other iPods, which I have charged up every night, I
haven't had a moment's difficulty with the battery. If I want a
replacement, it's available from Apple or from online businesses
for a good price.
You really tip your hand when you say that this is the summer
Jobs gets indicted. You're just amalgamating rumors, not
speaking out of any personal knowledge. And in this case, the
SEC has done just about everything but hold up a sign that says,
"He's innocent!"
will all be very displeased."
Batteries are batteries. They eventually die no matter what you
do. If that displeases you, then perhaps you should invent a
better battery.
"I am very skeptical of the battery life Apple is claiming because
historically when they give you
numbers like this, you get half that or worse."
BS. If anything, Apple underestimates the battery life so that
people are not expecting something that there is no way they
will get.
"An annoyance on a
music player, but on your phone and organizer that would really,
really make the device a source of frustration."
IF the battery life was really poor, which it isn't. IF.
"My other worry with apple is the declining hardware quality."
BS. I think you are pulling this out of your rear end. Would you
care to cite anything other than run of the mill problems that
affect every hardware company"
"Apple used to make notebooks that you could keep for years
and years..."
You can still keep them for years and years.
"...now my wife and I burn through them and they
always seem to need service that isn't covered by Apple Care
and costs as much as a new laptop."
What does "burning through them" mean? Sounds like they are
out of warranty by the time you experience problems, which to
me does not sound like "burning through" anything.
"Maybe it will be the summer Steve Jobs get indicted."
I seriously doubt that.
"The feds
are still gunning for him and his lawyers, stay tuned for more
developments as the case gets built."
BS. The feds are already done with wasting their time on it.
Have a nice day.
No denying the fact that iPhone has added a new dimension to cellphone design.
Now there's an oxymoron if there ever were one: Open OS Windows CE.
mail, real internet browsing and email, real OS X, and multitouch,
are all killer apps by themselves. There's no way you can cobble
together an equivalent from one of the also rans.
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2632317407.html
(And if you want the best, Linux has been optimized to razor
sharpness.)
It's what sits on top that makes it special. And that isn't open.
Not for Microsoft, not for Apple. It's both companies'
competitive advantage.
The reason it is open is because no one cares about it any more,
much like the reimplementation of DOS.
We're talking about future devices and systems here, and you're
clinging to the lowest misses of the early 90s.
designed. Did he listen to anything Jobs said last week at the All
Things Digital conference? He had a very good point that one of
the things that makes the iPod such a success is it's software. In
a pretty box, but it's the software. And that's what makes
Microsoft and Apple so much more innovative than hardware
companies like Motorola (horrid software!), Nokia, Sony/Ericsson
and LG. They are hardware companies who have no clue how to
design software. And that's where the iPhone will blow them
away.
The other handset companies think they can give us cool
hardware designs with mediocre to horrid software (and
intentioally cripple technologies like Verizon does with
Bluetooth) and we won't notice what utter crap their junk is
compared to an iPhone that has vastly better designed software.
This is what clueless iPod naysayers said on the website
MacCentral the day Steve introduced the first iPod in 2001:
- "I still can't believe this! All this hype for something so
ridiculous! Who cares about an MP3 player?"
- "All that hype for an MP3 player? Break-thru digital device? The
Reality Distiortion Field is starting to warp Steve's mind if he
thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."
- "Better bring that price down or you wont sell any of these
babies"
Comments from clueless readers after the 2001 iPod
introduction.
Indeed, they were truly clueless. The iPhone naysayers are
writing the next batch of quotes I'll be keeping.
Either way - this is really god news for Apple Inc.
Anyone who still doesn't "get" the iPod's appeal will be surprised
(deja vu) by the iPhone's success.
Anyone who still doesn't "get" the iPhone is a Windows Mobile 6 device without the productivity tools will be surprised (deja vu) by the iPhone crashed by Windows Mobile 6.
...with scratches and skin oils all over the screen.
Touch screens on PDA phones have been tried before and those have been always the biggest complaints. The iPods have scratchprone screens. I imagine one of the first accessories that a third party company will come up with will be protective covers.
The iphone has appeal but lacking functionality in an already competitive smartphone market.
After the 1st million are sold.. its a slam dunk for failure! The facade has been copied along with some of the shiny features for smartphones what is Apple offering aside from a new facade?
Nothing that I can see!
That's what Apple is and always was about: get a product that exists for years already, reduce compatibility, make it look good, increase price by 50% and hype hype hype so weak-minded Apple fanboys rush to buy a $500 brick with an Apple logo.
"Wherever they go with the iPhone, Mac OS X is going to follow them."
Interesting: when Microsoft does that, it's called anti-competitive attitude; when Apple does it, it seems to be a smart and wise decision.
There's a lot of products out there that quietly disappear. Apple's had them before. Remember the Cube? That was a neat bit of engineering hardware that was really cool and popular with hackers. Unfortunately there wasn't much of a market beyond that group.
The market will eventually be the ones to decide what succeeds or fails. I think the iPhone will be adopted and gobbled up by the same religious zealots that have to have all things Apple for nothing other than the logo itself. That's fine. They exist in all fields. People are brand loyal to cars for the same reason regardless how good or bad the vehicle is. (Love your Mustang? Remember Ford also made the Pinto.) I think the iPhone will have a big splash, then be largely forgotten by the cell phone market. People will want to have one to be seen with it, but when in actual numbers in the marketplace will be quite small.
The real test will be to see if it is still around five years from now or if it will meet the same demise as other cool Apple products that are now forgotten (Like the neat Newton. I loved scribbling out notes on that- POOF!).
Let it sink or swim on its own.
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- What about Itunes Mobile?!
- by siestaboy June 11, 2007 12:02 PM PDT
- Why isn't the Iphone upon its release going to have Itunes Mobile?! What gives??!! Several phones before it have Itunes, so why doesn't the Iphone?! If this was supposed to be the new Ipod, it would have Itunes Mobile! And what's with the the lack of 3G?! They can't have high-speed applications without 3G! Idiots! Go ahead and hype the Iphone all you want! It's going to flop within the first month if these things aren't fixed, I guarantee you!
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- One more thing...
- by siestaboy June 11, 2007 12:14 PM PDT
- This phone is EXPENSIVE! The price alone will drive away most the customers that don't have big wallets. I would NEVER pay $500-$600 for a phone. I don't care what it does! Pretty outragous if you ask me! And if Apple wants to gain some market share, they HAVE TO HAVE MORE CARRIERS! Only Cingular just doesn't cut it!
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