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Faster processors, increased hard drive space are the primary updates in the latest iteration of Apple's consumer laptops.

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I love Mac because....
by kk_junk May 15, 2007 8:48 AM PDT
I love Mac because it comes with "faster professor"...
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professor...lol
by psedog May 15, 2007 8:55 AM PDT
Good catch. I read it as processor.
I love MacBooks because....
by RompStar_420 May 15, 2007 9:06 AM PDT
The OS is acctually good, it don't freeze or crash like Windows does all the time. Ya, it don't matter, 98, 2000, XP, Vista, it's all garbage, I never had a good experiance with Windows.

I can't really afford to buy a laptop, any laptop, but I still have my G5 Power Mac that I got a year ago, and it's my best computer ever!!! and keep in mind that I have used computers since the first one that I had, which was an IBM PC Jr.

I also like the Sun Workstation with the dual 64bit processors and their ability to have up to 32GB of ram. My G5 has 16GIG of ram and it's a dream machine, so I can imagine how much more you can do with 32 if you need it.
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I love Dell Insipiron because...
by godam_registration May 15, 2007 5:07 PM PDT
1. It's cheap and powerful
2. It's light and cool
3. Stable as a rock with Windows Defender and Norton installed
4. Looks pretty sexy too
5. Lots of programs available - many for free
6. Plenty of upgrade options from different vendors
7. Dell is the shizzle

My friend has a fancy Macbook. Other then being heavy enough to use in the gym, it feels like resting a portable heater on your knees. Firefox crashes every minute on it - how's that even possible? I knew all that BS about Mac's fabled stability was just BS.
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The Best Just Got Better... Except VRAM
by Battleshipagincourt May 15, 2007 9:37 AM PDT
believe that the macbook is the best laptop in terms of a 'best
value-basis.' Unfortunately, I don't think that the CPU was most
in need of an upgrade; it was the VRAM. The low, shared VRAM
remains a significant limiting factor on its performance. I
believe that Apple would have done very well if it gave the black
macbook the optional 128MB of shared VRAM. That would give
the high-end macbook a much greater appeal to buyers. It also
would not compromise the sales of its lower-end pro version,
which would have the dedicated VRAM and other features.

The Macbook's processor and RAM are high enough to run
sophisticated software, but the 64MB of VRAM is very low
compared with other laptops priced for under $1000. I think
Apple needs to upgrade that video ram so that the macbook
could outclass every other laptop for the future.
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I have to agree
by jelloburn May 15, 2007 12:06 PM PDT
That is the one thing that has kept me at bay when it comes to
purchasing a Macbook. I personally like the smaller size of the
Macbook when compared to the MBP, but the video is lackluster,
and sharing VRAM is never fun.

I would like to see a 13" or 12" MBP. Not all this 15" crap. And a 17"
laptop?! That's what my iMac is for. And it's about as portable.
A Web Developer's Dream Come True.
by ServedUp May 15, 2007 9:48 AM PDT
I'm getting one to run Vista Ultimate & OS X.

Best of both worlds. I think so.
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New Macbooks... Lackbooks?
by ThunkDifferent.com May 15, 2007 9:57 AM PDT
Santa Rosa, Vini vidi vici, ay ay ay...

Where is the glory in this new release? Where is the glory?

The new macbooks aren't up to par for me, they are better to be sure, but still don't offer the panache that most crave leopard and state of the art. These are in-betweenners, and i look forward to their next release... already.
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GREAT
by jase1125 May 15, 2007 10:01 AM PDT
Can wait to get it so I can put Vista Ultimate on it and wipe off OS X.
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Wipe off
by kool_skatkat May 16, 2007 4:19 AM PDT
Enjoy... great use for your money. It's not like you bought OS X separately. You bought or will buy Vista for it.. right?
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by henk goewie May 21, 2007 7:56 AM PDT
you a masochist or what?
Why is VRAM such an issue?
by close5828 May 15, 2007 10:43 AM PDT
The Macbook is not a Macbook Pro. Granted, I'd like to see a smaller Macbook Pro, but I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon.

That said, the GMA 950 uses much LESS power than ATI/nVidia's offerings for a simple graphics chip--I think this is where Apple squeezes 6hrs out of the battery (your mileage may vary) on the Macbook vs. 5hrs out of the Macbook Pro.

To me, battery life is far-and-above more important than graphics performance.

Some of my friends argue that I can't do adequate gaming on it....I say that's what my Xbox 360 is for, but I've managed to play the original Call of Duty on my Blackbook (C2D 2.0Ghz/1GB RAM) under Rosetta and it's pretty quick.
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It's an issue because...
by jelloburn May 15, 2007 12:18 PM PDT
the VRAM is shared, so it takes away from your system's total
RAM. This isn't a big issue when you're running on 2 GB, but
when you're working with 1 GB, and you're working within two or
three CS apps, it becomes an issue.

If you're working with any 3d, then it can really become an issue.
Everything from Photoshop to Final Cut uses your video card and
when the VRAM is being shared, it doesn't bode well for your
overall performance. That, and 64 MB of VRAM isn't enough in
the first place and needs to be upgraded.

I understand that the Macbook isn't meant to be a power house
(that's what the MBP is for), but the lackluster integrated video
hampers a nice, well though out system. Users of Macbooks are
more than likely not creative professionals, but I can almost
guarantee that they are gamers to some extent, and providing a
video chipset that will stand up for more than a year would be a
nice gesture by Apple.
It's not an issue now, but what about later?
by Battleshipagincourt May 15, 2007 3:17 PM PDT
I don't consider the limited VRAM a problem, but 64MB of
shared memory is definitely on the low side. I would
complement Apple for building computers that last long after
they become obsolete; but why not design them to keep up with
technology a few years from now?

I recently bought a refurbished imac rather than a faster, and
cheaper, macbook solely because of the 128MB VRAM. I think
Apple could boost its sales of macbooks much further by
increasing the shared VRAM to 128 MB. It would not affect
battery life that much, but could expand what the computer can
do. It would detract from sales of the pro, but it would also
detract from the competitors. If 64MB is 'pretty quick,' imagine
what 128MB would mean.
VRAM matters...
by wayland.ind May 15, 2007 8:34 PM PDT
because other manufacturers offer more than just integrated crap from Intel on their low end laptops and desktops. except apple who charges a leg and an arm for a computer.
i have an ibook with 32mb vram and it's so slow when i do quicktime encoding on it. i don't feel like upgrading to a new mac with the prices and minimal graphics options.
Hahaha...Apple losers crack me up!
by iZune May 15, 2007 4:03 PM PDT
Who cares what Apple is doing. Microsoft makes more money in 2 weeks than Apple does all year. Just another crap products from a Fruit company. Woo look, I have a new icon that glows!!!!!!

WHO CARES!
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At least Apple works...
by ral1288 May 15, 2007 4:20 PM PDT
Which is much less than I can say for windows.
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Do the math iZune...
by papastanley May 15, 2007 6:31 PM PDT
While I'm fairly sure you rarely let facts inform your opinions
iZune, for others who may be interested...

Microsoft - Fortune 500 #49
- 44.282 Billion turnover for 11% increase
- 3% profit increase per annum with profits of 12.599 Billion
- market value of 274.4 Billion
- earnings per share $1.20

Apple - Fortune 500 #121
- 19.315 Billion Turnover with 39% increase
- 50% profit increase per annum with profits of 1.989 Billion
- market value of 80.6 Billion
- earnings per share $2.27

So in terms of nominal profits your statement should read "
Microsoft make more money in 2 *months* blah blah blah..."

Who cares what Apple is doing? Any analyst worth their salary
should care about a 80 Bill market cap company increasing
profits by 50% per annum...

I know which one I'd rather have shares in, and that's not just
after using Vista...

Enjoy your Zune... I'll stick with my iPod
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Funny?
by cgpublic May 15, 2007 7:49 PM PDT
You actually paid to use Windows? Now that's funny!
Woo look,
by bobmarksdale May 15, 2007 8:19 PM PDT
I have a new OS that took me 5 years to develop that does nothing more than waste energy and take up VRAM, RAM, and CPU to show open windows in a different way. Oh wait, it also has 'upgraded' security which is getting closer to not sucking, but still does not quite make it to the level of a 'crap product'.
Is This Guy Serious
by mac_is_ultimate May 15, 2007 11:17 PM PDT
I've read other comments from this guy. All he seems to do is say
that any mac products is crap no matter what it is (He said that
Final Cut was crap, I know weird?). So I think that us people who
have actually realised that there are better alternatives to the
dismal product should just let him enjoy using his Zune and
squirting songs to no one cause he is just about the only person
who owns one.
Glad "Apple loser"
by macspertise May 15, 2007 11:18 PM PDT
I've been a glad "Apple loser" for many years and I'm happy more
and more people 'get the glow'. !0% of the laptop-users by now. So
Talkback, keep on sending your scared and misinformed views. If
that's all the Microsoft-side has to offer you just have given us
another reason to choose Apple!
Microsoft Nitwits Unite!
by tramky May 15, 2007 11:39 PM PDT
Sounds like this guy has a problem with money. Who cared how much Microsoft makes? Windows remains a crappy piece of work--still crashes, still doesn't work properly, still is attacked by mass quantities of worms, viruses, and other assorted trash. Basic functions in any number of basic Windows applications just do not work reliably--often you click on some icon or button or tool, and, lo & behold, it doesn't work. I had Windows XP running on one desktop computer, most of the time you had to hit 'Shut Down' twice before the OS would react to the command. Twice?! What is that about???!! Trashy stuff. It's laughable.
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MS scared
by kool_skatkat May 16, 2007 4:23 AM PDT
So why is MS so scared of Open Source?
Numbers
by Mystigo May 16, 2007 7:40 AM PDT
"Microsoft makes more money in 2 weeks than Apple does all
year"

-that might have been true a few years ago, but that is no longer
the case. Microsoft's net income was only 6 times that of Apple
in 2006 (as opposed to 26 which is what you are implying).
While that is still a huge number, the ratio has been rapidly
falling for the last two years. Apple's earnings have been
climbing dramatically whereas MSFTs have shown almost no
change in years. That is until Vista was released. MSFT's
earnings did trend upward for the one quarter for which there
are results, but the change is not comparable to the huge and so
far sustained quarter to quarter growth in Apple's profits.
Apple
by raymichael July 9, 2007 4:01 PM PDT
In 1974 General Motors dominated the auto industry. They laughed at the Japanese automakers cars and said they made more money than all of them combined. Flash forward a few years. Toyota passes GM because they (build the cars for the customer) not build a car and then look for customers. Apple has the same mentality. Build things for the customer. Working at a large coorporation with PCs they caught a nasty virus this year and took down our servers and all of our PCs. Had to get Nortons to give us a new softeare version to contain the virus. While they were working on this I pulled out my Mac and used it to perform my job functions till all my PC brothers got over the flu. Thats what A Mac is for. In 1974 I was with my father in a large Sears store and heard the manager state that Sears is #1. Where are they now? Sure Microsofty makes a lot of money. And they need to Fix or Repair Daily to keep running. An old proverb for you. What comes around goes around. Keep building crap and somebody will build something better. So far Mac has left windows in the dust. Just more lemmings who don't know good from bad because they haven't tasted or used the good. POOR LEMMINGS!
best OS, best hardware.
by ed9 May 15, 2007 8:26 PM PDT
apple losers? this from a guy with no imagination? iZune? the impersonator? can't think of a better name? how about duh-Zune? quality not quantity. think, and thinkdifferent
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macs are overpriced and browsers don't work
by birdguynews May 16, 2007 8:03 AM PDT
i used to be a mac user for a decade until 2002 when i finally got fed up with the browsers not working with so many shopping websites i use all the time. i can't afford to mess up a transaction because of browser incompatibility!

my fiance is now forced to use macs at work and she constantly encounters problem with their intranet on mac browsers as well as vendors she deals with. firefox is NOT the solution on the mac, it crashes every 15 minutes!

mac os is fun and the computers are stylish, but when it comes to important everyday work, it just doesn't cut it.
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yeah...
by jelloburn May 16, 2007 3:17 PM PDT
I know Firefox crashes ALL the time on my Mac... please...

I very rarely come across websites that don't work in Safari, and if I
do, I use Firefox, which works perfectly.

I love the BS stories people post to try and sway opinions.
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2002???
by dateman May 16, 2007 4:03 PM PDT
so we have had no updates/improvements since 2002???

Why post a message in 2007 about how it sucked for you in 2002...this is the IT industry, next week these posts are out-of-date...

Macbook Pro...Firefox...NeoOffice...GIMP...VLC...all sweet
FUD
by mhersh May 21, 2007 1:54 PM PDT
I've used Firefox on my Mac, I haven't had a crash. If you were
smart, you'd use the updated build of WebKit from the WebKit.org
site. It works a lot better than the latest Apple release of Safari. I
haven't run into too many sites that Safari can't handle. That's
funny, on my local network, the Macs are the ones that give me the
least amount of trouble. You sound more like a PC cheerleader
than a Mac user.
Macs are behind the times, yet again...
by mbenedict May 16, 2007 9:20 AM PDT
Dell, Lenovo, Toshiba, Sony, etc., have all released "Santa Rosa" / Centrino Pro laptops, while crybaby MacFans try to justify their overpriced, outdated clunkers. Go figure.
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Wrong
by yacahuma May 16, 2007 6:38 PM PDT
You are missing a very important point. It does not matter how much cpu you put on a Windows machine it will always be slow. Not true with the Mac X. I got tired of PC an moved to the mac for that reason. After a couple of weeks ,a Vista machine will feel like if you were running a 386.

I am glad people like you keep buying pc. Your are made for each other.
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Sony has Santa Rosa??? Not yet...
by BigGuns149 May 17, 2007 1:07 PM PDT
"Dell, Lenovo, Toshiba, Sony, etc., have all released "Santa Rosa" / Centrino Pro laptops, while crybaby MacFans try to justify their overpriced, outdated clunkers. Go figure."

Hmmm... Let's go to Sony.com. Click on their SZ series. Santa Rosa... nope. If you look through Sony's website not one laptop uses the T7100,T7300,... chipset. Apple already had N wifi six months ago. If you don't have the 800Mhz front side bus based CPUs than who cares. Furthermore, take a direct head to head with Sony's C Series and Apple's Macbook's. Apple's laptops have slightly smaller HDDs, but they use far better CPUs (T7200/T7400 compared to T5500s) plus they already have 802.11N. If you consider the cost of an 802.11 wifi adapter alone you will find that the Macbook is a much better deal than Sony's C Series. Sony is supposed to unveil a new line with the new Santa Rosa based CPU, but until then you are blowing smoke at least citing Sony. I will agree with you that they are a bit pricey although I don't think I would call them outdated. I can't say that I have seen anything that beat the Macbook in every category for every price. That being said I think most people would prefer an 800Mhz FSB as opposed to the overrated 1.3MP isight. Sure, the camera has a retail value of a about $100, but unless you are going to be a youtube junkie I think most people would prefer to spend the $100 on the CPU or the RAM or the HDD.
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Be nice, Give Macs time...
by Vegaman_Dan May 17, 2007 4:57 PM PDT
In a couple of years, they may even be up to today's standards for the industry in laptops.

Unfortunately the rest of the world will have moved on and they'll still be behind, but they are catching up.

2Gb of memory max! Coolness! My three year old Toshiba Portege M200 can do that. The current Portege runs 4Gb.

Give them time to catch up. They will eventually if the rest of the industry stops long enough and waits.
Be nice, Give Macs time...
by Vegaman_Dan May 17, 2007 4:57 PM PDT
In a couple of years, they may even be up to today's standards for the industry in laptops.

Unfortunately the rest of the world will have moved on and they'll still be behind, but they are catching up.

2Gb of memory max! Coolness! My three year old Toshiba Portege M200 can do that. The current Portege runs 4Gb.

Give them time to catch up. They will eventually if the rest of the industry stops long enough and waits.
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At least I got chicken!
by Leeeroy Jenkins May 17, 2007 7:54 PM PDT
Macbooks are behind times, way over-priced, and don't run the latest Windows games like the $700 PC laptop does.
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An "oldgrade" - way behind the competition
by john55440 May 21, 2007 5:07 PM PDT
It's no wonder Apple decided to remove "Computer" from the comany name. They just aren't competitive in that area.
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