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Intel and Motion Computing show off the C5 tablet PC, a digital assistant for overworked health care professionals.
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VA Hospitals
by jechappe February 21, 2007 3:49 AM PST
The VA hospital system is one of the leaders of use of technology to facilitate health care. Reference the article "The Best Care Anywhere" by Phillip Longman in the Washington Monthly. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0501.longman.html
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Overrated VA Tech System
by skshrews February 24, 2007 9:16 AM PST
I'm in the medical field, trained at the VA, and have seen reports generated by the VA computer system.

The VA tech system seems to fall into the category of "at least it's better than what other's have." The printed reports generated are awkward to read, they look like they were generated from some UNIX system from the '70's. Lab reports are long column's of results that are not aligned, making it easy to mix results. The VA, at times, has offered it's EMR on a limited basis to the medical community at large, but it hasn't been very popular or widely adopted.

Furthermore, the VA may communicate well internally, but they are horrible to deal with externally. Attempting to obtain a patient's records from the VA is like trying to claw your way through a brick wall.

And, of course, the financial reserves of the VA are unmatched by any medical system in the world. Suggesting others do what the VA does with tech is like suggesting Luxembourg should have the military prowess of the United States.
What About Cheaper Devices?
by skshrews February 24, 2007 9:24 AM PST
Couldn't you do this with an off the shelf PDA? I use a Palm TX in the hospital, it has WiFi and Bluetooth. Both systems work well in my experience. Unfortunately, I don't know of any software that quite does what the article describes, but I don't think it would be that difficult.

An over $2000 dollar PC kicking around the hospital sounds like overkill. Their is cheaper hardware (maybe not run by Intel processors), this seems more of a software issue.

The whole technology argument vis-a-vis the medical field is dishonest. To regulate MD's into expensive technical systems, when they can't adjust their fees to pay for them, is the oft ignored issue. Until the price of these systems fall dramatically, they'll end up ignored.
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Agreed
by bobstudent3 March 6, 2007 7:15 AM PST
I agree with skshrews' comment that the expense of electronic medical records is ignored. Most medical errors are costly for insurance companies and the Federal Government (Medicare - your tax dollars). Hospitals and clinics want to invest in something with an economic return (just like any other business). High tech medical records have zero returns. Most people don't know that doctors do not share medical records (or blood test results) automatically. People seem to think that if you get a blood test, any doctor anywhere can somehow look it up. The fact is, if got a test somewhere else, a hospital or clinic would make more money in repeating the test. There's absolutely no economic incentive in sharing this information for free.

I work at a hospital where they emphasize a "Future of Medicine Initiative" where we have the latest CT scanners, PET scanner, MRI's, and even handhelds for doctors to do billing as well as electronically send prescriptions directly to pharmacies. The patients see that and our new lobby and think we're high tech. In actuality, our lab system is literally running on Unix and DOS. To look up labs, we have to launch a modified telnet application which hasn't been updated for at least 125 years or more. The system goes down for maintenance for an hour every night. It's the worst lab computer system anyone has ever seen, no matter what clinic or hospital they've ever worked at. It's funny that the article calls it a "low-tech method" when the USCF nurses put the vitals into a computer. Here at a major medical center, the vitals are on a piece of paper in a bedside chart that's physically separate from the actual paper chart which is in a different room from the piece of paper that keeps track of the patient's medications. If any piece of paper is missing, too bad. The doctors and nurses work extra hard to get around the computer and charting system (it's very frustrating in this day and age), but since patients don't see it and the hospital doesn't have to pay extra for anybody's frustration, there's no incentive to change. If it takes an extra hour to discharge a patient because some pieces of paper went missing for a while, the hospital still makes money keeping them an extra night. No big deal.
New C5 tablet
by dmullaney-fricke March 16, 2007 2:45 PM PDT
Where can we contact a C5 rep in the S.F.Bay Area?
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