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Author Elizabeth Grossman discusses the health hazards of electronics and the politics of recycling.

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Excellent article.
by Tui Pohutukawa July 5, 2006 3:31 PM PDT
We need to learn that 'consumption', as in consuming the
world's resources, is a bad thing. Sustainability is the key to a
future that is worth living in.
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Excellent article.
by Tui Pohutukawa July 5, 2006 3:31 PM PDT
We need to learn that 'consumption', as in consuming the
world's resources, is a bad thing. Sustainability is the key to a
future that is worth living in.
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IT is for Green
by ree_ree2702 July 5, 2006 3:50 PM PDT
While I absolutely agree with this article, it falls short of one major piece of information. IF I want to dispose of my old cell phone, CRT, or other electronic device resposibly,

HOW DO I DO IT? WHO DO I CALL? WHERE DO I GO?

You are quick to point out all the things we needs to do, but then don't tell us how to do it. This is why people do not recycle. Because the is little assistance with recycling. Especially outdating equipment that no one will refurbish.
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IT is for Green
by ree_ree2702 July 5, 2006 3:50 PM PDT
While I absolutely agree with this article, it falls short of one major piece of information. IF I want to dispose of my old cell phone, CRT, or other electronic device resposibly,

HOW DO I DO IT? WHO DO I CALL? WHERE DO I GO?

You are quick to point out all the things we needs to do, but then don't tell us how to do it. This is why people do not recycle. Because the is little assistance with recycling. Especially outdating equipment that no one will refurbish.
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The usual liberal environmentalist crap
by lingsun July 5, 2006 4:55 PM PDT
It's the usual liberal environmentalist crap. The responsibility for junk computers, monitors, and printers resides with the final owners of that equipment and no one else. No one would suggest that Ford was responsible for junk cars, tires, or batteries. No one would suggest that Frigidaire is responsible for junk air conditioners or junk refrigerators. The idea of making computer companies responsible for recycling their products is just another example of the left forcing third parties to provide benefits for people.
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Then let me add to the steaming pile....
by chaddyc July 5, 2006 6:21 PM PDT
So what should the end user do with them? Make flower vases out
of old CRT tubes? I would absolutely suggest that Ford take back
their old Pinto's, Crown Vics, & F150's . If they had designed them
right in the first place, they could reclaim 100% of their material,
thereby reducing the cost for expensive raw materials and fattened
their bottom line. Actually, this is the direction Ford is heading.
Read a book called "Cradle to Cradle" by McDonough and Braungart
- you'll see where the future is headed - where it has to.
I agree
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:37 PM PDT
I made the same analogy. However for some reason Dell Computers is now taking back all old Dell Machines for free. I suspect they can use some of the old parts on "refurbished" machines.

Maybe if FORD did the same thing starting back in 1920 they would still be a dominate company.

Also my organization, www.scrapitout.com works with large organizations that are in need of disposing of machines that no longer are in business--for example IBM no longer makes PCs.
Rubbish
by richard.watson July 6, 2006 12:06 AM PDT
How would you know what's inside your computer, how to get it out, never mind what to do with it once you have an idea?

Making the manufacturer somewhat responsible for helping to fix the problem means they're more likely to manufacture with a view to cleaning up in the first place.

Once I have the product, it's my baby to make sure it goes to the right place, but I don't think the manufacturer can just slap anything into a product and say "hey, liberal commie, have this. clean up when you're finished".
You can't eat, breath, or drink money, buddy.
by Tui Pohutukawa July 6, 2006 3:33 AM PDT
Somebody has to accept and recycle all that toxic stuff. Who
would you suggest should do it - the state perhaps? Who is
going to pay for it - you, with your taxes?
The usual liberal environmentalist crap
by lingsun July 5, 2006 4:55 PM PDT
It's the usual liberal environmentalist crap. The responsibility for junk computers, monitors, and printers resides with the final owners of that equipment and no one else. No one would suggest that Ford was responsible for junk cars, tires, or batteries. No one would suggest that Frigidaire is responsible for junk air conditioners or junk refrigerators. The idea of making computer companies responsible for recycling their products is just another example of the left forcing third parties to provide benefits for people.
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Then let me add to the steaming pile....
by chaddyc July 5, 2006 6:21 PM PDT
So what should the end user do with them? Make flower vases out
of old CRT tubes? I would absolutely suggest that Ford take back
their old Pinto's, Crown Vics, & F150's . If they had designed them
right in the first place, they could reclaim 100% of their material,
thereby reducing the cost for expensive raw materials and fattened
their bottom line. Actually, this is the direction Ford is heading.
Read a book called "Cradle to Cradle" by McDonough and Braungart
- you'll see where the future is headed - where it has to.
I agree
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:37 PM PDT
I made the same analogy. However for some reason Dell Computers is now taking back all old Dell Machines for free. I suspect they can use some of the old parts on "refurbished" machines.

Maybe if FORD did the same thing starting back in 1920 they would still be a dominate company.

Also my organization, www.scrapitout.com works with large organizations that are in need of disposing of machines that no longer are in business--for example IBM no longer makes PCs.
Rubbish
by richard.watson July 6, 2006 12:06 AM PDT
How would you know what's inside your computer, how to get it out, never mind what to do with it once you have an idea?

Making the manufacturer somewhat responsible for helping to fix the problem means they're more likely to manufacture with a view to cleaning up in the first place.

Once I have the product, it's my baby to make sure it goes to the right place, but I don't think the manufacturer can just slap anything into a product and say "hey, liberal commie, have this. clean up when you're finished".
You can't eat, breath, or drink money, buddy.
by Tui Pohutukawa July 6, 2006 3:33 AM PDT
Somebody has to accept and recycle all that toxic stuff. Who
would you suggest should do it - the state perhaps? Who is
going to pay for it - you, with your taxes?
Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:31 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
Reply to this comment
Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
Reply to this comment
Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
Reply to this comment
Solutions
by PhilKuhlenbeck July 5, 2006 8:32 PM PDT
There is an organization that will refer you to a local recycler that is Enviromentally Friendly.

Also make sure to remove any person information from a computer before sending it to a recycler.

Most important is getting rid of any private information that exists on the computer hard drive.

visit www.scrapitout.com for more information.
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Paperless Office
by July 5, 2006 11:30 PM PDT
LOL! Let me move this stack out of the way so I can type this message.
http://www.techknowcafe.com/content/view/551/43/
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