Comments on: Energy hogs in your living room

What your plasma TV, digital video recorder and other gadgets are doing to your electricity bill. It's not pretty.

[durango4]

Our Congress

And a Republican comittee last month had recommended getting
rid entirely of the Energy Star program.

[pmm6]

Our Congress

That sounds like the republicans. What's the point in saving energy or showing people that they can save energy with one device or another.

[ballssalty]

Stop spreading lies

And propaganda. Congress nor the republicans have done any such thing.

[sanenazok]

Congress please help me

Congress, I don't know how to select products, so you'll have to help me...

If energy efficiency was ever an issue for anyone, makers would start competing over it and advertising it. Instead, nobody cares if your radio consumes 30W of power of 6W since a kilo (yep 1000) watt hour costs 8 cents.

[paulfellows]

STBs can be made which consume low power.

As a manufacturer of Set Top Boxes in Europe, my company, TVonics strives to keep the power consumption of our Digital TV recievers to be as low as possible. So worst case the power consumption of the box and the plug-top PSU (wall-wart) combined is 6.2watts. Standby is less still. This is in stark contrast to early deployed boxes in the UK which consumed 20+ watts. Worse still the early boxes were hopelessly slow compared to the fast responsive nature of later generation boxes.

How do you get the message across to the public though when they make their purchase decision. Their usual criteria is which box is the cheapest? Yes we could have procured a cheaper PSU adapter but it would have consumed another 1 or 2 watts. So another 50 cents to a dollar cost up for lower power could add another $5 at retail when you do the percentage mark-ups and sales tax etc.

The problem is when you add up the millions of boxes deployed you are talking 100's of megawatts when you account for multiple boxes in the home as well which is essential for Analog TV switch off.

So in the end every watt counts! It can be done and we try to do it without adding significant cost to the product. Also note that boxes which consume less power, run cooler and therefore tend to last longer which also helps the environment in terms of energy consumption in manufacture etc etc...

In the end it has to be a concerted effort between governments, retailers and manufacturers to get the message across to the public that they do have the choice if they want it to consume less power.

Paul Fellows, CEO TVonics Limited

[tennapel]

Consumer advocate organisations

Consumer advocate organisations, which in Europe at least are prolific, test a lot of equipment. Rarely I see total cost of ownership calculations shown.

The only notable exception here in The Netherlands are cars and washing machines: they do have energy consumption class rating information attached to the product in showrooms and stores.

I doubt if that does influence decisions in case of a car, which is more about image than anything else, but I'm sure that in case of a washing machine energy consumption does play a mayor part in the consumer's mind when making a purchase decision.

I think that labeling the energy consumption for any electrical device would certainly help to make consumers at least aware of the after-sales cost they have to pay.

And if I ever will buy a setop box, I'll look for your products ;-)

[ballssalty]

US has energy consumption labels

On appliances. Washing machines, air conditioners, refrigerators, dryers, etc.

[TQUIN45]

Energy Hogs

It should be pointed out that in many circumstances the use of electricity is almost 100% efficient. The wasted energy or electricity mentioned in your article fvrom the power pacts becomes heat, heat that is in your home. During the colder months this heat can be considered usefull, although as electric heat it is in general more expensive than gas or oil, but this is changing also.

[Fazookus]

PVR

I just got a Tivo clone from my cable TV provider. It not only
doesn't seem to have a sleep function but even it's hard drive runs
all the time, which is inexcusable.

I've measured it at 21 watts when it's not doing anything.

[sanenazok]

Turn it off with a switch

If you can't afford $14* per year in power costs, then turn it off when you're not using it.

*Based on 8 cents per kW/H, which is $0.00008 per watt hour * 24 hours * 366 days * 20 watts

Hidden Costs

Your calculation is selfish because there are hidden costs, the real cost involved in produce the energy is not fair for our planet and the pollution levels keep raising year after year. It's not about how much we pay for energy. We still burn oil to produce energy. Not all is lost because the solar energy is starting to take off and it could be the cleanest energy available right now.

[bobsaccount]

Conspiracy

Since our president, his cronies and family are so firmly entrenched in the oil industry, there is no republican incentive to save energy.

[nightveil]

Re: Conspiracy

Since ALL politicians are entrenched in big business, including oil,
there's no incentive for any politician to advocate saving energy
except in an election year so they can say "See? I'm environmentally
friendly!"

[lingsun]

Maybe if Clinton kept his pants on he could have fixed it

Maybe if Clinton kept his pants on he could have fixed it.

[Mentor397]

oil?

No way dude. My computer doesn't run on oil. As a matter of fact, it doesn't run on steam, wood, coal, water, sunlight, starlight, or reenergizing ecto-plasmatic rays either. It runs on electricity.

[lingsun]

Who cares?

Who cares? Am I going to look at the power consumption of a TV before I buy it? No way. If you can't afford the electricity, don't buy it. If you think buying it will destroy all life on planet earth then go live in a cave somewhere.

[ramarnath]

proud republican

I am a proud republican and I will burn anything that I can afford (oil,electricity). God gave the republicans the right to be energy inefficient. Shame on you treehugger to write an article like this.

[foxhound718]

How could you say that!!!!????

Outrage! I found your comment thoughtless. How could you say such a horrid thing? Think of all the animals and trees who have lifes of there own. Humans aren't better then any of them. You are blinded by you greed. I'm a public school student in 6th grade who studies energy renewable ways to get it. All people care about is money. It's so thick! And guess what? It's the next generation who has to deal with your stupidity. People like me! And animals too. There people who just happen not to be human. Trees? They give us the very air we breath! I am sorry if I have offened you in anyway, but I am outraged beyond words. I am a proud Democrat.

[foxhound718]

why us?

Yeah. What a great idea! Let's just waste all the energy we can and let the next generation deal with our stupity! Fat Chance!!!! I can't belive it!!! I'm 12, so in 40 years there will be nothing left for us. You people are such energy hogs! I barely ever watch TV anyway! I read. What an amazing concept!

[Roman12]

No big deal.

Most "high-tech" stuff, does not require a lot of electricity. Sure, TV's take up the most. But charging your mp3 player, or charging your laptop does not require a lot. I believe all laptops are under 100W, a typical desktop is 400W. Electricity is cheap enough to not care, for now at least.
It's things like your dishwasher or oven that consume a lot.
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[clintbrot]

Peak Oil!!! Everyone should CARE!!!

Life as we no it will change if we keep saying who cares. Peak Oil will mandate our attention in the way of rations. We will be knocked back to the stone age.

[foxhound718]

Yep

Yep. That's exatly what will happen if we're not careful. I'm 12. So guess what happens? The next generation has to deal with the stupity of energy wasters. Not a happy thought.