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The "one more thing" Apple had teased for Wednesday's press announcement turned out to be three more things.

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by Earl Benser October 12, 2005 3:52 PM PDT
iTunes6, QuickTome 7, 3000 songs, 800 audio book files, 2000+
photos, 50+ movies, 16" screen, plays CD's and DVD's, and in its
spare time is a 3.2Ghz P4 Wintel HP laptop. (HP not Apple because I
need the portable Wintel for use with critical business software.)

Don't exactly stick it in my pocket, but it's got all the portability I
want or need. And it works great in the car, in motels, and at other
remote sites. Price was $1000, but well worth it.
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but it
by sanenazok October 12, 2005 4:08 PM PDT
doesn't have a 320x240 display for headache making pixelated tv shows.
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by Earl Benser October 12, 2005 3:52 PM PDT
iTunes6, QuickTome 7, 3000 songs, 800 audio book files, 2000+
photos, 50+ movies, 16" screen, plays CD's and DVD's, and in its
spare time is a 3.2Ghz P4 Wintel HP laptop. (HP not Apple because I
need the portable Wintel for use with critical business software.)

Don't exactly stick it in my pocket, but it's got all the portability I
want or need. And it works great in the car, in motels, and at other
remote sites. Price was $1000, but well worth it.
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but it
by sanenazok October 12, 2005 4:08 PM PDT
doesn't have a 320x240 display for headache making pixelated tv shows.
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Another Trojan Horse...
by edgedesign October 12, 2005 3:56 PM PDT
Apple got a late start getting into the digital music (MP3) game,
but then delivered the iPod plus iTunes and smoked every other
competitor. Then they brought it to Windows and things got
even hotter. The ACC (mpeg4) format is quickly becoming the de
facto standard for digital music as a result.

Every iTunes user has QuickTime installed and now Apple has
introduced an iPod that plays video and upgraded their online
store for downloading new content - music videos, short films
and TV shows. I wonder how the video offerings from Microsoft,
Real and Apple will compare in a year.

Microsoft, Real, TiVo, Sony and others better hope Apple doesn't
add a tuner and recorder to that new iMac. Check out the new
Front Row software that comes pre-installed. Looks like a good
start to a full-on media center to me.
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Front Row URL
by edgedesign October 12, 2005 4:02 PM PDT
http://www.apple.com/imac/frontrow.html
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iPods are good but macs suck
by lingsun October 13, 2005 1:41 PM PDT
iPods are good but macs suck. Overpriced, slow, small amount of available software. Forget the halo effect. Apple will never even get to 10% of the computer market.
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Another Trojan Horse...
by edgedesign October 12, 2005 3:56 PM PDT
Apple got a late start getting into the digital music (MP3) game,
but then delivered the iPod plus iTunes and smoked every other
competitor. Then they brought it to Windows and things got
even hotter. The ACC (mpeg4) format is quickly becoming the de
facto standard for digital music as a result.

Every iTunes user has QuickTime installed and now Apple has
introduced an iPod that plays video and upgraded their online
store for downloading new content - music videos, short films
and TV shows. I wonder how the video offerings from Microsoft,
Real and Apple will compare in a year.

Microsoft, Real, TiVo, Sony and others better hope Apple doesn't
add a tuner and recorder to that new iMac. Check out the new
Front Row software that comes pre-installed. Looks like a good
start to a full-on media center to me.
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Front Row URL
by edgedesign October 12, 2005 4:02 PM PDT
http://www.apple.com/imac/frontrow.html
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iPods are good but macs suck
by lingsun October 13, 2005 1:41 PM PDT
iPods are good but macs suck. Overpriced, slow, small amount of available software. Forget the halo effect. Apple will never even get to 10% of the computer market.
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Been there
by sanenazok October 12, 2005 4:10 PM PDT
I've used my Pocket PC to play back video. Basically useless and annoying. Not that quality wasn't great, it's just the screen is too small and resolution is too low. So what does Apple do? I makes a portable video device with smaller screen and a lower resolution. Guess I won't like it.
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Been there
by sanenazok October 12, 2005 4:10 PM PDT
I've used my Pocket PC to play back video. Basically useless and annoying. Not that quality wasn't great, it's just the screen is too small and resolution is too low. So what does Apple do? I makes a portable video device with smaller screen and a lower resolution. Guess I won't like it.
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And they said who would use a mp3 player that plays video
by vincentt October 12, 2005 4:19 PM PDT
I read somewhere that jobs said it would be useless if they came out with a video version of its world famous ipod, but well...guess thats not true. Well, Whats next ?
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Jobs never said that
by DeusExMachina October 12, 2005 5:09 PM PDT
He said that a video player without legally available content would
be useless
And they said who would use a mp3 player that plays video
by vincentt October 12, 2005 4:19 PM PDT
I read somewhere that jobs said it would be useless if they came out with a video version of its world famous ipod, but well...guess thats not true. Well, Whats next ?
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Jobs never said that
by DeusExMachina October 12, 2005 5:09 PM PDT
He said that a video player without legally available content would
be useless
Why would anyone watch on a 2" screen?
by bobby_brady October 12, 2005 4:25 PM PDT
This thing won't go anywhere.
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Care to make a bet?
by DeusExMachina October 12, 2005 5:10 PM PDT
I'll front some serious $ on this one. Care to put your $$ where
your mouth is?
Compact portability
by msims October 13, 2005 10:52 AM PDT
To answer that question its compact, portable and fits right into your pocket. This is second reason why the iPod is the most popular multimedia device besides its primary use for storing and listening to mp3 and other documents and files such as audiobooks.
Why would anyone watch on a 2" screen?
by bobby_brady October 12, 2005 4:25 PM PDT
This thing won't go anywhere.
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Care to make a bet?
by DeusExMachina October 12, 2005 5:10 PM PDT
I'll front some serious $ on this one. Care to put your $$ where
your mouth is?
Compact portability
by msims October 13, 2005 10:52 AM PDT
To answer that question its compact, portable and fits right into your pocket. This is second reason why the iPod is the most popular multimedia device besides its primary use for storing and listening to mp3 and other documents and files such as audiobooks.
When will they get in the Media Center arena?
by jamie.p.walsh October 12, 2005 4:42 PM PDT
I love their drive to deliver a superior product, but when will they get in the living room.....out of the box.

I know there are 3rd party solutions that do this, but they're clunky in my opinion.
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um, nevermind. Didn't look
by jamie.p.walsh October 12, 2005 4:54 PM PDT
30 feet from a 20 inch screen is pushing it for sure.

Maybe 20 feet. I do like it, but I'd rather have an appliance I could put on a 40-50 inch screen.

Is Front Row available for download?
When will they get in the Media Center arena?
by jamie.p.walsh October 12, 2005 4:42 PM PDT
I love their drive to deliver a superior product, but when will they get in the living room.....out of the box.

I know there are 3rd party solutions that do this, but they're clunky in my opinion.
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um, nevermind. Didn't look
by jamie.p.walsh October 12, 2005 4:54 PM PDT
30 feet from a 20 inch screen is pushing it for sure.

Maybe 20 feet. I do like it, but I'd rather have an appliance I could put on a 40-50 inch screen.

Is Front Row available for download?
This FAQ may answer some questions.
by sard October 12, 2005 4:42 PM PDT
http://news.com.com/FAQ+Some+details+behind+Apples
+announcement/2100-1041_3-5894131.html?tag=nl
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Question
by hemen thacker October 12, 2005 7:19 PM PDT
Can you answer Mark Choi reply at Oct 12 2005, 4:27 PM PDT
This FAQ may answer some questions.
by sard October 12, 2005 4:42 PM PDT
http://news.com.com/FAQ+Some+details+behind+Apples
+announcement/2100-1041_3-5894131.html?tag=nl
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Question
by hemen thacker October 12, 2005 7:19 PM PDT
Can you answer Mark Choi reply at Oct 12 2005, 4:27 PM PDT
Video on the Go
by Tiemmothi October 12, 2005 4:44 PM PDT
I cant see using this for alot of video watching. I use my psp on
long flights to Japan, China and Thailand for alot of things,
gaming and yes video watching. The PSP screen is still small but
its alot bigger than the ipods. And I can get a full season of
(name that show here) at a very very good quality in mpeg4 on a
1 gb memory stick. I will be looking at the new creative video
player soon. I love my ipod mini and it still does an awsome job
of playing my mp3s. My on flight pack houses an ipod mini, psp,
notebook and a change of clothes (sucks when your bag gets
misplaced by the airlines). Would be nice to have an all in one
unit that works with itunes for music and movies.
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Video on the Go
by Tiemmothi October 12, 2005 4:44 PM PDT
I cant see using this for alot of video watching. I use my psp on
long flights to Japan, China and Thailand for alot of things,
gaming and yes video watching. The PSP screen is still small but
its alot bigger than the ipods. And I can get a full season of
(name that show here) at a very very good quality in mpeg4 on a
1 gb memory stick. I will be looking at the new creative video
player soon. I love my ipod mini and it still does an awsome job
of playing my mp3s. My on flight pack houses an ipod mini, psp,
notebook and a change of clothes (sucks when your bag gets
misplaced by the airlines). Would be nice to have an all in one
unit that works with itunes for music and movies.
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Apple: An example to all
by Andrew J Glina October 12, 2005 5:44 PM PDT
They are showing the world how to make money. Why give big upgrades when you can just do several small upgrades and charge for each one? They should of, and could of, added this functionality when they upgraded all iPods to the colour screen. But that would have meant less money. They could have added this functionality to the Nano. But that probably will be out next month...

Apple remind me of DVD releases. You get the first release with just the movie, then a month later a two disc version, and then the re-releases just keep on coming! A version with extra deleted scenes (Bourne Identity), a version with the deleted scenes blended it (Gladiator), a version with third disc (Pirates of the Caribbean), etc.

This is exploitation and Apple should be ashamed to be joining the club. One of the many reasons why I would never consider going back to Apple. (I am still cut over their lack of Apple IIGS support!)
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Why are they an example?
by MikeReyes81 October 12, 2005 6:24 PM PDT
You say this as if they are the first to make video on the GO.

Windows MC has a mobile version which is used by creative in a lot of its products and the screens on those are HUGE compared to this iPod crap.
You been around!
by Believe Brain October 12, 2005 7:15 PM PDT
They have a nicer name for it: Added Value.
And, after-sell services do not apply on added value.
Steve Jobs is a marketer - actually that is an essential quality for CEO. However, marketer usually is not as solid as engineer like Bill Gates. That is why Gates is not the CEO! Agree?
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But, to follow your own advice....
by Earl Benser October 13, 2005 4:09 AM PDT
,,,,, you woudn't be concerned because you be still running Mac
OS 7, which is nice and stable, and runs all your programming
quite well, thank you.

The front edge of the technology wave is inherently a dynamic
and expensive place to operate. But some people like 'the thrill
of the new'. It's not for everybody, and most of the time cannot
be justified economically, but it can be fun.

Your problem with Apple, and with technology in general,
sounds sounds a bit artificial if you exclude, and you clearly do,
the WinTel environment from your list of complaints. Microsoft,
and Intel, and the various OM's, have played the nickel-dime
technology distribution in depth, but you don't seem to notice or
care.

I;m not sure that you remember that far back, but Apple had
damn little support forany of my Apple II's, Iie's, IIc's, and IIgs's.
All the support came from user groups. I ran a couple of Woz
machines for the last three or four years of the Apple II period,
and had no trouble with support from the local Apple User's
Group, or from multiple national user groups. (No email or
downloading then, tho.) The Woz's were equivalent in speed and
memory to the first two Mac's, and had much more useful
software. But the Woz's were effectively archived at work when
the Mac Plus arrived. And shortly, the home Woz was moved
over for another Mac Plus. And all through the Apple II period,
support was relatively easily found.

But, again, that's in the US. In Australia, you may have been just
a bit too far away to find that user group support.

And before I go any farther, just where are you getting your
information about Apple's design path for the iPod family?
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Apple: An example to all
by Andrew J Glina October 12, 2005 5:44 PM PDT
They are showing the world how to make money. Why give big upgrades when you can just do several small upgrades and charge for each one? They should of, and could of, added this functionality when they upgraded all iPods to the colour screen. But that would have meant less money. They could have added this functionality to the Nano. But that probably will be out next month...

Apple remind me of DVD releases. You get the first release with just the movie, then a month later a two disc version, and then the re-releases just keep on coming! A version with extra deleted scenes (Bourne Identity), a version with the deleted scenes blended it (Gladiator), a version with third disc (Pirates of the Caribbean), etc.

This is exploitation and Apple should be ashamed to be joining the club. One of the many reasons why I would never consider going back to Apple. (I am still cut over their lack of Apple IIGS support!)
Reply to this comment
Why are they an example?
by MikeReyes81 October 12, 2005 6:24 PM PDT
You say this as if they are the first to make video on the GO.

Windows MC has a mobile version which is used by creative in a lot of its products and the screens on those are HUGE compared to this iPod crap.
You been around!
by Believe Brain October 12, 2005 7:15 PM PDT
They have a nicer name for it: Added Value.
And, after-sell services do not apply on added value.
Steve Jobs is a marketer - actually that is an essential quality for CEO. However, marketer usually is not as solid as engineer like Bill Gates. That is why Gates is not the CEO! Agree?
View reply
But, to follow your own advice....
by Earl Benser October 13, 2005 4:09 AM PDT
,,,,, you woudn't be concerned because you be still running Mac
OS 7, which is nice and stable, and runs all your programming
quite well, thank you.

The front edge of the technology wave is inherently a dynamic
and expensive place to operate. But some people like 'the thrill
of the new'. It's not for everybody, and most of the time cannot
be justified economically, but it can be fun.

Your problem with Apple, and with technology in general,
sounds sounds a bit artificial if you exclude, and you clearly do,
the WinTel environment from your list of complaints. Microsoft,
and Intel, and the various OM's, have played the nickel-dime
technology distribution in depth, but you don't seem to notice or
care.

I;m not sure that you remember that far back, but Apple had
damn little support forany of my Apple II's, Iie's, IIc's, and IIgs's.
All the support came from user groups. I ran a couple of Woz
machines for the last three or four years of the Apple II period,
and had no trouble with support from the local Apple User's
Group, or from multiple national user groups. (No email or
downloading then, tho.) The Woz's were equivalent in speed and
memory to the first two Mac's, and had much more useful
software. But the Woz's were effectively archived at work when
the Mac Plus arrived. And shortly, the home Woz was moved
over for another Mac Plus. And all through the Apple II period,
support was relatively easily found.

But, again, that's in the US. In Australia, you may have been just
a bit too far away to find that user group support.

And before I go any farther, just where are you getting your
information about Apple's design path for the iPod family?
View reply
new heights
by October 12, 2005 6:21 PM PDT
Mac is always in news with improvements and developments and i wish it would continue to meet the new demands.
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new heights
by October 12, 2005 6:21 PM PDT
Mac is always in news with improvements and developments and i wish it would continue to meet the new demands.
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