Comments on: Apple unveils video iPod, new iMac

The "one more thing" Apple had teased for Wednesday's press announcement turned out to be three more things.

[kaotica]

new ipod

i hope there will be a software update for the current 60GB to allow it to "see" video

[hemen thacker]

Yep

iTunes 6.0 will allow you to copy videos.

[superd23]

not likely

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the old ipods to play video
because it's not gonna happen.

[kaotica]

new ipod

i hope there will be a software update for the current 60GB to allow it to "see" video

[hemen thacker]

Yep

iTunes 6.0 will allow you to copy videos.

[superd23]

not likely

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the old ipods to play video
because it's not gonna happen.

[ZP]

Apple strikes again!

WOW! I was just looking at the specs for the new iMac and I have to say that this is totally a Windows Media Center killer!!! It's amazing that Apple doesn't have a bigger user base. Maybe this will change things. Also the new iPod is really cool. I own a PSP and wish the thing had a video out. But I can still play the few games for it. I think I might have to get me a new video iPOD.

[technewsjunkie]

PVR app. included??

Yeah, with a 30 foot viewing distance this is partially aimed at the
living room.

What I'd like to have Apple include is a Tivo like application "iPVR"
for instance that would schedule and record TV. Better yet, have it
encode it for iPod playback, additionally.

[ejcrist]

Wait for the price drop

Comparing the Apple to a Media Center is fine, but the Apple is still WAY more expensive than Tivo.

I paid $200 for my 81 hour TIVO that also plays my MP3s through my stereo and displays my photos on my HDTV. I can transfer recorded video to my laptop or other home computers, burn to DVD and schedule recordings on my TIVO from a web site.

$200 vs $1200??

[ZP]

Apple strikes again!

WOW! I was just looking at the specs for the new iMac and I have to say that this is totally a Windows Media Center killer!!! It's amazing that Apple doesn't have a bigger user base. Maybe this will change things. Also the new iPod is really cool. I own a PSP and wish the thing had a video out. But I can still play the few games for it. I think I might have to get me a new video iPOD.

[technewsjunkie]

PVR app. included??

Yeah, with a 30 foot viewing distance this is partially aimed at the
living room.

What I'd like to have Apple include is a Tivo like application "iPVR"
for instance that would schedule and record TV. Better yet, have it
encode it for iPod playback, additionally.

[ejcrist]

Wait for the price drop

Comparing the Apple to a Media Center is fine, but the Apple is still WAY more expensive than Tivo.

I paid $200 for my 81 hour TIVO that also plays my MP3s through my stereo and displays my photos on my HDTV. I can transfer recorded video to my laptop or other home computers, burn to DVD and schedule recordings on my TIVO from a web site.

$200 vs $1200??

Just Ordered Mine!

The 60gig jump is a nice touch...I never thought I would ever fill my 20gig, but it only took a few months. This will be a nice upgrade. (Also, did you see the new multimedia dock w/ remote! That is gonna be the edge over the comp.)

Just Ordered Mine!

The 60gig jump is a nice touch...I never thought I would ever fill my 20gig, but it only took a few months. This will be a nice upgrade. (Also, did you see the new multimedia dock w/ remote! That is gonna be the edge over the comp.)

[chuchucuhi]

video format

I'm assuming some type of protected quicktime here or something? Can one encode their own videos on it? So many questions and of course so little information. The biggest thing I hate about press releases in tech.

Some info

The videos available through itunes will be protected (non burnable), but can be copied to upto (I believe) 5 other computers and unlimited ipods. As for adding your own media, you can use any number of software programs to convert video to MPG4 (most cell phones are already using this format, and there are already collectives of video out there).

[technewsjunkie]

I assume it's MPEG-4

It's got to be MPEG-4 for the codec.

Good question though about the DRM technology and encoding
you own video. I definitely want to put my OWN video projects on
it!

[stevenwbuehler]

Video Format

The format used in the new iPod is H.264, which is extremely high quality with very small file size. It is supported in QuickTime version 7.

From iPod tech specs on Apple website...

The new iPod supports the following video formats:

* H.264 video: up to 768 Kbps, 320 x 240, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats.

* MPEG-4 video: up to 2.5 mbps, 480 x 480, 30 frames per sec., Simple Profile with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats.

QT 7 Pro

To encode your own movies to H264 (or other codecs), all you need
is QT7 pro. the upgrade is $30. Pretty cheap for such great
software.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/
AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=D3380Z%
2FA

[chuchucuhi]

video format

I'm assuming some type of protected quicktime here or something? Can one encode their own videos on it? So many questions and of course so little information. The biggest thing I hate about press releases in tech.

Some info

The videos available through itunes will be protected (non burnable), but can be copied to upto (I believe) 5 other computers and unlimited ipods. As for adding your own media, you can use any number of software programs to convert video to MPG4 (most cell phones are already using this format, and there are already collectives of video out there).

[technewsjunkie]

I assume it's MPEG-4

It's got to be MPEG-4 for the codec.

Good question though about the DRM technology and encoding
you own video. I definitely want to put my OWN video projects on
it!

[stevenwbuehler]

Video Format

The format used in the new iPod is H.264, which is extremely high quality with very small file size. It is supported in QuickTime version 7.

From iPod tech specs on Apple website...

The new iPod supports the following video formats:

* H.264 video: up to 768 Kbps, 320 x 240, 30 frames per sec., Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3 with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats.

* MPEG-4 video: up to 2.5 mbps, 480 x 480, 30 frames per sec., Simple Profile with AAC-LC up to 160 Kbps, 48 Khz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4 and .mov file formats.

QT 7 Pro

To encode your own movies to H264 (or other codecs), all you need
is QT7 pro. the upgrade is $30. Pretty cheap for such great
software.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/
AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=D3380Z%
2FA

[lwvirden]

what kind of remote?

Is it a bluetooth remote (given that bluetooth is built in)? The pictures I've seen give me the impression it is infrared; that would be too bad,
I think, since that means you have to be pretty much line of sight for it, right?

[lwvirden]

what kind of remote?

Is it a bluetooth remote (given that bluetooth is built in)? The pictures I've seen give me the impression it is infrared; that would be too bad,
I think, since that means you have to be pretty much line of sight for it, right?

[technewsjunkie]

I'm going to sell my current iPod for the new one!

I gotta have it! Even if it's teeny.
I'd love to be able to pull it out if my pocket and show people my
video projects, just to give them a flavor of the project.

Definite cool factor.

[technewsjunkie]

I'm going to sell my current iPod for the new one!

I gotta have it! Even if it's teeny.
I'd love to be able to pull it out if my pocket and show people my
video projects, just to give them a flavor of the project.

Definite cool factor.

[Don Key]

no firewire support on video ipod

with each new ipod video, you get some free lube... since steve jobs loves to F over older mac users.

(macs only started shipping with usb 2.0 1 1/2-2 years ago)

[M C]

Yeah, legacy support would be nice...

But that would mean an increase in size for the iPod.

I'm sure they didn't make the decision lightly - it basically concedes defeat for Firewire.

[chris_d]

bend over for Jobs

No kidding. I have a 3-year-old Mac. It's a notebook so I can't just slap a PCI USB 2.0 card in there. I guess Jobs expects me to go buy a new Mac with the iPod. That, or I could wait several hours for music to download over the USB 1.1 connection. Instead, I just won't be buying this new iPod.

no firewire support on video ipod

You're kidding, right? I have 3 iPods (all using FireWire for
lightning fast uploads), a G5 1.8Ghz and a new iBook G4...
wouldn't trade 'em "up" for anything - plus a Bronze
keyboard PB and a vintage Performa 6400/200 all still in
working order.

AND I am an older mac user myself. Must be I like the way
Jobs has been F ing me over all these years!

Seriously -- if you take good care of the Macs you've got,
they'll take good care of you. So don't get all in a twist over
these new babies and the changes.

Doesn't fly...

>>with each new ipod video, you get some free lube... since
steve >>jobs loves to F over older mac users. (macs only started
>>shipping with usb 2.0 1 1/2-2 years ago)

Funny that you say that. Mac users have the slowest upgrade
cycle among PC users for exactly the opposite reason. Why is
that, pray tell? Perhaps because their macs remain exceptionally
functional even into late life?? I have an original TiBook
500mhz. Aside from the slow processor, it's still basically
cutting edge. Wifi, large screen, USB, Firewire, DVD...

Your argument doesn't fly unless you really believe that the
lawsuit brought against apple that it would support ancient
legacy systems is a true indicator of it's malicious nature. Apple
is great at keeping old computers running like new. Sometimes
it just messes up. (great men will inevitably be plagued by great
mistakes)

[Don Key]

no firewire support on video ipod

with each new ipod video, you get some free lube... since steve jobs loves to F over older mac users.

(macs only started shipping with usb 2.0 1 1/2-2 years ago)

[M C]

Yeah, legacy support would be nice...

But that would mean an increase in size for the iPod.

I'm sure they didn't make the decision lightly - it basically concedes defeat for Firewire.

[chris_d]

bend over for Jobs

No kidding. I have a 3-year-old Mac. It's a notebook so I can't just slap a PCI USB 2.0 card in there. I guess Jobs expects me to go buy a new Mac with the iPod. That, or I could wait several hours for music to download over the USB 1.1 connection. Instead, I just won't be buying this new iPod.

no firewire support on video ipod

You're kidding, right? I have 3 iPods (all using FireWire for
lightning fast uploads), a G5 1.8Ghz and a new iBook G4...
wouldn't trade 'em "up" for anything - plus a Bronze
keyboard PB and a vintage Performa 6400/200 all still in
working order.

AND I am an older mac user myself. Must be I like the way
Jobs has been F ing me over all these years!

Seriously -- if you take good care of the Macs you've got,
they'll take good care of you. So don't get all in a twist over
these new babies and the changes.

Doesn't fly...

>>with each new ipod video, you get some free lube... since
steve >>jobs loves to F over older mac users. (macs only started
>>shipping with usb 2.0 1 1/2-2 years ago)

Funny that you say that. Mac users have the slowest upgrade
cycle among PC users for exactly the opposite reason. Why is
that, pray tell? Perhaps because their macs remain exceptionally
functional even into late life?? I have an original TiBook
500mhz. Aside from the slow processor, it's still basically
cutting edge. Wifi, large screen, USB, Firewire, DVD...

Your argument doesn't fly unless you really believe that the
lawsuit brought against apple that it would support ancient
legacy systems is a true indicator of it's malicious nature. Apple
is great at keeping old computers running like new. Sometimes
it just messes up. (great men will inevitably be plagued by great
mistakes)

[M C]

Cnet LOVES rumors, so why no speculation on Pixar-Disney reunion?

I mean, it should be an obvious topic that could keep a reporter (who might otherwise be saddled with the task of finding actual news) busy for days!

[Earl Benser]

Because there is no way...

... that Pixar would make a damn fool move like that.....


And even the dumbest reporter could figure that out by lunchtime.

[M C]

Cnet LOVES rumors, so why no speculation on Pixar-Disney reunion?

I mean, it should be an obvious topic that could keep a reporter (who might otherwise be saddled with the task of finding actual news) busy for days!

[Earl Benser]

Because there is no way...

... that Pixar would make a damn fool move like that.....


And even the dumbest reporter could figure that out by lunchtime.

[M C]

I doubt they'll play on your 4G, but you can store them...

...in hard disk mode.

[M C]

Sorry-meant to be a reply to

nm

[M C]

I doubt they'll play on your 4G, but you can store them...

...in hard disk mode.

[M C]

Sorry-meant to be a reply to

nm

[winmanjr]

And one mor thing....

The Emac is gone from the Apple Store web site.

[jasonemanuelson1]

Education only

Only education channels get it now, from what I understand.

[winmanjr]

And one mor thing....

The Emac is gone from the Apple Store web site.

[jasonemanuelson1]

Education only

Only education channels get it now, from what I understand.