Comments on: Palm does Windows

The handheld maker looks beyond the Palm OS with its first-ever Windows-based smart phone.
Photos: Palm's new Windows phone

[MattMc]

Microsoft?? Think lost sales, not gained!!!

This is truly disappointing. One of the reasons I purchased a Treo was because it was NOT running a Microsoft OS. This is a company with a long laundry list of sloppy programming problems. Should I trust my data to them?
I'm sorry, I will not be upgrading if the next Treo is running Microsoft. The marketplace of sellers for devices like the Treo is growing - a buyer is not locked in to any one vendor anymore. To partner with the King of vendor lock-in is a BIG mistake - especially when the whole world is waking up to the fact that they don't want to be locked in.
BIG mistake. BIG, BIG mistake.

[advs89]

No

I completely disagree, i own a palm m505 (i know, its old...), and i hate the ui. Especially the completely proprietary file formats, and how it isn't cross-compatible with regular media files (like jpg, avi, mp3...) without having to download a third pary tool... I was actually hoping ms would buy out palm, and make it better (although on second thought... when has microsoft ever made anything better??? - Wow, i just contradicted myself!)

[MattMc]

Microsoft?? Think lost sales, not gained!!!

This is truly disappointing. One of the reasons I purchased a Treo was because it was NOT running a Microsoft OS. This is a company with a long laundry list of sloppy programming problems. Should I trust my data to them?
I'm sorry, I will not be upgrading if the next Treo is running Microsoft. The marketplace of sellers for devices like the Treo is growing - a buyer is not locked in to any one vendor anymore. To partner with the King of vendor lock-in is a BIG mistake - especially when the whole world is waking up to the fact that they don't want to be locked in.
BIG mistake. BIG, BIG mistake.

[advs89]

No

I completely disagree, i own a palm m505 (i know, its old...), and i hate the ui. Especially the completely proprietary file formats, and how it isn't cross-compatible with regular media files (like jpg, avi, mp3...) without having to download a third pary tool... I was actually hoping ms would buy out palm, and make it better (although on second thought... when has microsoft ever made anything better??? - Wow, i just contradicted myself!)

[MattMc]

Microsoft??? Think "Lost Sales"

This is truly disappointing. One of the reasons I purchased a Treo was because it was NOT running a Microsoft OS. This is a company with a long laundry list of sloppy programming problems. Should I trust my data to them?
I'm sorry, I will not be upgrading if the next Treo is running Microsoft. The marketplace of sellers for devices like the Treo is growing - a buyer is not locked in to any one vendor anymore. To partner with the King of vendor lock-in is a BIG mistake - especially when the whole world is waking up to the fact that they don't want to be locked in.
BIG mistake. BIG, BIG mistake.

[MattMc]

Microsoft??? Think "Lost Sales"

This is truly disappointing. One of the reasons I purchased a Treo was because it was NOT running a Microsoft OS. This is a company with a long laundry list of sloppy programming problems. Should I trust my data to them?
I'm sorry, I will not be upgrading if the next Treo is running Microsoft. The marketplace of sellers for devices like the Treo is growing - a buyer is not locked in to any one vendor anymore. To partner with the King of vendor lock-in is a BIG mistake - especially when the whole world is waking up to the fact that they don't want to be locked in.
BIG mistake. BIG, BIG mistake.

Dumb, dumb, dumb...

They're shooting themselves in the foot. The
best thing about Palm was the PalmOS. What it
lacked in glitz it had in functionality,
stability, and connectivity. PalmOS is wonderful
to write for and it's synchronization has far
fewer bugs and more consistency across
applications.

I'm sorry to see Palm take such a step backward.
I fear they've lost the war, not because they're
giving in to wince, but because they are giving
up the one thing that really differntiated them
from the competition.

[Earl Benser]

Looks like I've bought my last Palm unit....

.... Windows whatever just won't cut it for me. In anything, Windows
whatever will try to make the environment so cluttered and
complicated that all utility will be lost.

And now I see why Sony dumped the Clie, my oersonal
favorite........

[Jess McLean]

Palm OS is the best? You must be kidding

I see nothing good about Palm OS. It is so user-unfriendly, it still uses the same UI since the b/w Palm days, it is so complicated to sync with PIM applications (not to mention that huge download of that Palm Sync application...talk about bloatware),and so-so screen resolution. Seriously, after Sony exits the PDA market, Palm's PDA is going downhill, and that LifeDrive is not going to save them either.

And, why just Verizon? How about Cingular and Sprint and T-Mobile?

Dumb, dumb, dumb...

They're shooting themselves in the foot. The
best thing about Palm was the PalmOS. What it
lacked in glitz it had in functionality,
stability, and connectivity. PalmOS is wonderful
to write for and it's synchronization has far
fewer bugs and more consistency across
applications.

I'm sorry to see Palm take such a step backward.
I fear they've lost the war, not because they're
giving in to wince, but because they are giving
up the one thing that really differntiated them
from the competition.

[Earl Benser]

Looks like I've bought my last Palm unit....

.... Windows whatever just won't cut it for me. In anything, Windows
whatever will try to make the environment so cluttered and
complicated that all utility will be lost.

And now I see why Sony dumped the Clie, my oersonal
favorite........

[Jess McLean]

Palm OS is the best? You must be kidding

I see nothing good about Palm OS. It is so user-unfriendly, it still uses the same UI since the b/w Palm days, it is so complicated to sync with PIM applications (not to mention that huge download of that Palm Sync application...talk about bloatware),and so-so screen resolution. Seriously, after Sony exits the PDA market, Palm's PDA is going downhill, and that LifeDrive is not going to save them either.

And, why just Verizon? How about Cingular and Sprint and T-Mobile?

[David Arbogast]

You folks crack me up

Palm is not interested in an Operating System Holy War against Microsoft. They are in business to sell handheld computers, and they are employing a strategy of product diversification. The market studies have shown that they can sell more devices if they have multiple offerings, and they are out to win the battle to be a major supplier of handheld computers. If there is demand for Windows, they are missing sales by not offering Windows. Plain and simple. They have little interest in helping any of you wage a war against Microsoft. Quite the contrary... Microsoft software will help them increase sales and grow their business.

[Jess McLean]

Message has been deleted.

[Donoho]

No Palm or Symbian

"Colligan said Palm would not extend its hardware platform to other smart-phone operating systems such as Linux or Symbian."

The Palm OS has been mismanaged into obscurity. I've got nothing against a Treo for Windows, but the exclusion of Treo for Linux leaves me very disappointed.

Huh?

>They are in business to sell handheld computers, and they are
>employing a strategy of product diversification

How so? They are embarking on a path of being just another hardware provider. How is that product diversification?

>Microsoft software will help them increase sales and grow their
>business.

You sound perilously close to being a MS fanboy here. What is the supporting data for your statement? Why will using MS software help Palm one iota? There is already a slew of hardware devices in the mobile market, and the unintended consuquence of this move by Palm will be to force consumers towards other Windows devices or Blackberry.

[David Arbogast]

You folks crack me up

Palm is not interested in an Operating System Holy War against Microsoft. They are in business to sell handheld computers, and they are employing a strategy of product diversification. The market studies have shown that they can sell more devices if they have multiple offerings, and they are out to win the battle to be a major supplier of handheld computers. If there is demand for Windows, they are missing sales by not offering Windows. Plain and simple. They have little interest in helping any of you wage a war against Microsoft. Quite the contrary... Microsoft software will help them increase sales and grow their business.

[Jess McLean]

Message has been deleted.

[Donoho]

No Palm or Symbian

"Colligan said Palm would not extend its hardware platform to other smart-phone operating systems such as Linux or Symbian."

The Palm OS has been mismanaged into obscurity. I've got nothing against a Treo for Windows, but the exclusion of Treo for Linux leaves me very disappointed.

Huh?

>They are in business to sell handheld computers, and they are
>employing a strategy of product diversification

How so? They are embarking on a path of being just another hardware provider. How is that product diversification?

>Microsoft software will help them increase sales and grow their
>business.

You sound perilously close to being a MS fanboy here. What is the supporting data for your statement? Why will using MS software help Palm one iota? There is already a slew of hardware devices in the mobile market, and the unintended consuquence of this move by Palm will be to force consumers towards other Windows devices or Blackberry.

Et tu Palma?

And there I was trying to decide if I should get a Treo650 or the iPAQ hw6500 that has a builtin GPS receiver.

The new Treo better have an edge to overcome the competition. 3G enabled or at the least builtin wifi. If not, I'd probably choose the iPAQ since they have a longer track record running Windows...

Et tu Palma?

And there I was trying to decide if I should get a Treo650 or the iPAQ hw6500 that has a builtin GPS receiver.

The new Treo better have an edge to overcome the competition. 3G enabled or at the least builtin wifi. If not, I'd probably choose the iPAQ since they have a longer track record running Windows...

[Mendz]

Hardware + Software

It adds up. So there you have it. I guess it's business for Palm (the hardware company) to simply get their hardware products selling to both the Palm OS and the Windows Mobile market.

[Mendz]

Hardware + Software

It adds up. So there you have it. I guess it's business for Palm (the hardware company) to simply get their hardware products selling to both the Palm OS and the Windows Mobile market.

[JuggerNaut]

Too Little, Too Late...

The PDA market is dead, and the SmartPhone market is a whole
new ball game with a bunch of players. I say Palm is probably on
the way out since they have been unable to stay focused since
Microsoft entered the mobile market. It's too bad, it's great to have
choice and Palm made such great products (more so than
Microsoft).

[JuggerNaut]

Too Little, Too Late...

The PDA market is dead, and the SmartPhone market is a whole
new ball game with a bunch of players. I say Palm is probably on
the way out since they have been unable to stay focused since
Microsoft entered the mobile market. It's too bad, it's great to have
choice and Palm made such great products (more so than
Microsoft).

[Shep]

Sign me up!

I started with Palm way back with the Palm Pilot. I left the Palm OS a few years ago and went with a Pocket PC device. Loved the OS. Hated the hardware. I just switched back to the Palm OS with the Treo 650. Love the hardware. Hate the OS. As soon as the Treo for Windows comes out I will be the first person in line to trade in the buggy, old, tired, and feeble Palm OS for the Windows version.

[Shep]

Sign me up!

I started with Palm way back with the Palm Pilot. I left the Palm OS a few years ago and went with a Pocket PC device. Loved the OS. Hated the hardware. I just switched back to the Palm OS with the Treo 650. Love the hardware. Hate the OS. As soon as the Treo for Windows comes out I will be the first person in line to trade in the buggy, old, tired, and feeble Palm OS for the Windows version.

[thedreaming]

What the Frak?

What I always loved about Palm was the fact that it didn't run windows and now you're telling me that this new palm will? Granted, it's a phone, but I don't want windows on my phone. It's bad enough that I have it on every computer I use or even run into, now I have to have it on my phone?!

[thedreaming]

What the Frak?

What I always loved about Palm was the fact that it didn't run windows and now you're telling me that this new palm will? Granted, it's a phone, but I don't want windows on my phone. It's bad enough that I have it on every computer I use or even run into, now I have to have it on my phone?!