Comments on: HP sues firms that refill ink cartridges

Hewlett-Packard sues two companies that sell refilled ink cartridges, but it stops short of trying to block the refill business altogether.

Ink refills for computers

Wonderful! I made the misfortune of thinking that buying Lexmark 20 and 50 from Circuit City was too expensive, so I bit the advertisment for cheaper refills over the internet for 21.00 and 22.00 and ordered 6 of each. They were alright in the very beginning but in a couple of weeks, I discovered the rest had dried up and now I sit looking at the remaining cartridges kicking myself for being so gullible and knowing that I will never buy anything over the internet again. I will stick to the expensive original Lexmark brand.

[sanenazok]

Please do

How come you purchased a Lexmark? Costs per page are over $2 for some of their models. People you have to be careful, but you should not stop buying things online altogether.

BTW: I purchased a new Canon for $40 and each ink has its own little plastic container - meaning I can get those anywhere for $4 each. Enjoy giving money to Lexmark for me!

[Dex2177]

Avoiding expensive rip-offs...

Just get a local business that refills cartridges to do it for you.

[System Tyrant]

Ink cost to much anyway...

I find it amusing that you go out and buy a $50 printer, but the ink for it will cost you $100. I'm not a huge fan of refills, but when ya poe ya gots ta do whats ya gots ta do.

Between genuine ink and paper it cost to much to print. Printers are like SUV and ink makers are like oil companies.

[Tex Murphy PI]

HP brought this on themselves

The only reason why the refill market is so hot is because ink cartridges are one of the few things more expensive than gasoline these days!

For $30, you get the privilage of:
1) A cartridge that auto-expires on you, whether or not there is still any ink left inside.
2) Supporting a DVD-Style region lockout that prevents you from buying cheaper cartridges over the internet across borders.

If Microsoft got sued over market abuse for browset integration, why isn't price gauging a critiria?

[truegenius]

I dumped HP for Canon; HP won't prevail

Fed up with having to shell out over $35 for a tricolored ink cartridge, I recently dumped my HP 5150 printer for a Canon Pixma ip3000, which uses individual color cartridges, each of which sell for about $11 (black goes for a little more). The print quality has been great and I'm sure I'm going to save money over the long haul. Try a Pixma printer (street price $60 to $100) and send HP a message.

HP may win the packaging case (wanting "used" printed on the refills) but I don't think HP's gonna prevail in the other one. Saying a company that refills their ink cartridges has violated a patent is ludicrous - it's just liquid. This is just another example of one company misusing the legal system to slow another one down - why innovate when you can litigate?

[46thchief]

Always refill

I have an Hp printer but needed a new one to do better photos. I bouf ght Canon with individual tanks that can be refilled easily. I buy refilled for my HP because I will not pay those outrageous prices for HP's. If the manufacturers would price the cartridges at fair market value the refillers would go out of business. HP has nobody to blame but themselves.

[mortis9]

ever take economics?

85-90% of the people out there still buy genuine catridges. With refills being an option, if the genuine (luxury) product wasn't at "a fair market price", people would buy only, or mostly, refill (inferior) products

[johnzoet]

HP ink cartridges better, yeah right :(

I have been able to experience the quality of HP
ink cartridges first hand.
A few years ago I bought an A3 printer from HP
and used authentic HP cartridges only.
Within a few months the inside of the printer
was getting more and more blue.
I did not make the link with leaking ink
immediately as I had used Epson printers for
years without a single problem.
Just after the warrenty period expired I had to
buy an other printer. I have had similar bad
experiences with other products from HP like an
external CD burner, which only seemed to work in
the workshop of the retailer.
Also problem sarise when you want to have a
Linux driver for HP products. It seems the
product inside the case is never a real HP
product.
The only thing authentic about HP products is
the label on the case.
I have sworn to never buy a product from HP ever
again !

[truegenius]

Not surprised...

If you bought your printer during the Fiorina era, I'm not surprised. HP made some missteps during that time frame, and not improving their printing products was one of them. All they did was re-market them under the "invent" tag line.

[bennybob]

Care Cor the Environment

You can buy a printer for $50. The cost of replacement cartridges is $60. You do the math. Don't buy cartridges, buy printers. When the cartridges run out, send the old printer to landfill along with all of the rest of the obsolete electronic equipment.

[truegenius]

Another good reason to switch to Canon

This is another reason to switch to Canon's Pixma line of printers (starting with the ip3000 and going up from there). Individual color ink cartridges are a far more reasonable $10-$11 per cartridge in stores, cheaper if you buy online, I'm sure. I can't think of another major printer manufacturer that's using the three-tank method. Maybe it's patented.

[Ayleesha]

What kind of moronic world are we living in?

Send the old computer to a landfill? I mean who the hell says that? Every time their cartridges run out, people should just buy a new printer and toss the other printer in a stupid landfill? How stupid is that? If you want to get rid a printer (or anything else in this world - that is still in working order) you DON'T throw it away, you sell it or you donate it! Plus, one-use cartridges (or anything else disposable in this world) shouldn't even exist, they should all be refillable to help prevent more waste going to already overflowing, expanding and multiplying landfills. One day that's all the Earth is going to be covered with, our damn waste, which we can prevent, but we're too stupid to do anything about it. Guess what? We're killing the Earth and the Earth is killing us. Guess who's winning?

[bybru69]

How to save $$$....

My folks own & operate a 'Mom & Pop' office supply business so, I hear this every day...
There is a brand of 're-used' carts named Elite.
The High yield Elite cart for HP is the same price as the Standard yield HP cart...just an example for die-hard printer brand users.
OR, if you want save money (if not spend any at all!), shop around for printers...ANY printers AND USE THE REBATES!!!! I do.
Most, or all printers come pre-packaged with ink carts. If you were to purchase a $50 printer with a $50 mail-in rebate(YES, they exist) you've paid $0 for the printer, $0 for the cart(s) that come with it, and, $0 to $20 for shipping (if buying online).
Sometimes the cost of buying a printer is less than the rebate so, you can come out ahead $$$.
When the ink runs out of your printer, buy another printer using rebates and sell the used printer for a few $$$ or donate it for tax purposes. Don't forget, there are recycling companies out there that will pay YOU for your spent carts!!!!!!
Where are the rebates? Go to the manufacturer websites to print them off.

[ganerd]

HP losses if they pursue this....

I currently have an HP and like them...if I cannot refill my own cart...I will buy the next printer from someone that allows it.