Comments on: Apple's long shadow over mobile music

Handset makers are introducing plenty of phones that play music. But it's hard to imagine any besting the iPod or the soon-to-be-released iPhone.

[jpsalvesen]

Wireless music purchase probably not hard to do

The iPhone can do wireless. And EDGE. Wouldn't be too hard to allow the built-in media-player to get material from iTunes Store - but I doubt the price would be right.

The in-handset music purchase idea has a mortal enemy: Bandwidth costs. How much is the data transfer costs for 4 megs of high-quality audio?

Thought so. No over-the-network downloads yet.

So the iPhone does the other thing: To allow the users to easily push their (il)legal music to the iPhone.

[bluemist9999]

Simple Solution - Get Rid of DRM

Since consumers don't want DRM-"protected" music for their cellphones, why not offer the tracks without DRM? Then consumers could use the tracks to burn CDs to play in their cars, etc.

DRM just compounds the "the great thing about standards is there are so many to choose from" issue. As it is, for unprotected digital music, we have MP3, WMA, AAC, OGG and I don't know how many other compression methods.

I feel it needs to be simple and easy-to-use to be broadly adopted.

[i_am_still_wade]

Exactly right!

DRM only punishes the innocent, because the guilty always break it anyway. But, as long as you have companies like Sony who view all people as criminals waiting to happen and expect consumers to do whatever they command them to do, then we will never be free of the DRM scourge. And cell-phone music will continue to fail.

[coachgeorge]

Just Say NO!

Overpriced Ipod, Proprietary ITunes, Very overpriced IPhone, JUST SAY NO!!!!!

[OscarWeb]

Oh please.

Underpriced Zune, open-source Windows Media Player... oh wait.. back to reality. :)

[Thomas, David]

OK ... NO I WONT LISTEN TO YOU

eom

[orbital318]

Its not that its hard...

it just goes against Apple's model. Not to defend or put them down, Apple's model is one where you download a song and then you are responsible for backing it up on to a CD. If you loose your song you have to buy a new one. If the iPhone allowed for over the air downloading you would not be able to make a backup of your song.

[Macsaresafer]

Says who?

We already know that iTunes on the iPhone will sync with iTunes on
your computer, so how would backups be a problem?

[toosday]

I must give props to Sprint (for once)

Let me put this out there first: I will not subscribe to Sprint for various reasons (most of them being the same reasons why I won't subscribe to Cingular/AT&T), but they do have a new feature that Apple/Cingular/AT&T should copy immediately for the iPhone model:

The user downloads a song OVER THE AIR for 99 cents and they get a backup of the mp3 on their computer at no additional cost. Now that's sweet!

[swift2--2008]

Apple haters

Are going to have to stand back a little this morning. The Jobs
did it again.

I for one have never seen the appeal of "downloading music to
the phone directly." Yeah? Anybody want to pay what they'll want
for a 256 kbps file without DRM? If I hear a song, I have to wait
until I can open iTunes on my computer -- any of my five
allowed, Windows or Mac -- and adding the track. Then I sync
with the iPhone, or the iPod, or the Apple TV.

So are people depraved enough that they want to pay Cingular/
Sprint/etc. to download a tune immediately? Do you have access
to 2.5 million tracks? With a keyboard and a database like
Apple's?

This issue seems to me like the infamous FM tuner issue. You
hear people saying the iPod is no good, because it doesn't have
a tuner, without regard for the fact that there's no evidence that
the market wants it.

[ben::zen]

Creative :)

I'm actually quite happy with my Zen Vision:M with FM tuner, and record capabilities. I decided on the device mainly because if those options, so yes, there is a market for it.

[jbelkin]

Consumers Not Morons, Telcos Are

Consumers know all they need to know about their cell phone and cell phone choices - how did the ROKR sell with its 50/100 itunes song limit? Consumers are not morons - we look & decide. Everyday they pump out a new phone and basically say "shiiinnnneeeeyyyy."

But we're not morons. We don't really want to pay $15.99 or $16.49 to buy ONE song per month EVEN if we can buy it while we're walking around - not when we can go home and it's "free" via our CD or downloads (even legally - many artists offer free songs on their webpage). We know how to transfer a song over - just because they are morons doesn't mean we are.

They price like bureaucrats thinking we are "stuck" and have to pay like it's water overflow or gas surcharge - we will buy what we want.

They have also designed in chaoots or because the cell phone companies are lame the worst UI on the planet and they've been at it for 10+ years! They happily truimph they sell 1 billioon phones a year - name ONE phone with a great UI review? There's always something stupid, "If you talk, you can power the phone off with your thumb - be careful."

They are the morons. We're not so bright to keep giving them money but we're not morons.

[Bagavathi]

Where's the iPod killer?

You do not get the latest phones from other top manufacturers like Nokia or Sony-Ericcson here in US and which are widely available in Europe and Asia. They are feature rich..play music better than those available in US.