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Its new online payment system draws little flak from privacy advocates. Do people really trust Google that much?

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It Sucks...
by mstrclark July 5, 2006 8:05 AM PDT
I tried to use Google Checkout on Zales website but the free promotional shipping wasn't available when you used Google Checkout so, it would have cost me $13.00 to use the service.

Using Zales regular checkout process the free promotional shipping was applied automatically. Also, most sites won't allow coupons or promo codes if you use Google service.

It's kinks like there that going to kill the service very quickly.
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It Sucks...
by mstrclark July 5, 2006 8:05 AM PDT
I tried to use Google Checkout on Zales website but the free promotional shipping wasn't available when you used Google Checkout so, it would have cost me $13.00 to use the service.

Using Zales regular checkout process the free promotional shipping was applied automatically. Also, most sites won't allow coupons or promo codes if you use Google service.

It's kinks like there that going to kill the service very quickly.
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Could be a good thing
by CleanFreak July 5, 2006 8:57 AM PDT
As a merchant, I like to deliver the most convenient way possible, and for the least cost. If the new system proves to be secure, I can't imagine anything more convenient for the customer. Will they be better than PayPal who certainly delivers on the quick, easy and secure promise?

Tieing into the adwords users is a brilliant idea. But it might intice people to try to use adwords who don't know what they're doing and they'll lose a lot of money real quick. Adwords is a very risky investment for a small business if you don't know what you're doing. If you pay $1 per click and get 2000 clicks, that's $2000 you owe. Now if you get the industry standard of 1% in sales, and you sell a $20 item, You made $400, not including fees. You are now only in the hole $1600. That can happen in one day.

So I'm thinking this might be a good thing for big business, but the small guy will have to be careful.

Just my 2 cents -

Carole
CommonSenseLiving.com
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some corrections
by zboot July 5, 2006 4:06 PM PDT
I'm sure you meant a $2000 item, not a $20 item.
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Could be a good thing
by CleanFreak July 5, 2006 8:57 AM PDT
As a merchant, I like to deliver the most convenient way possible, and for the least cost. If the new system proves to be secure, I can't imagine anything more convenient for the customer. Will they be better than PayPal who certainly delivers on the quick, easy and secure promise?

Tieing into the adwords users is a brilliant idea. But it might intice people to try to use adwords who don't know what they're doing and they'll lose a lot of money real quick. Adwords is a very risky investment for a small business if you don't know what you're doing. If you pay $1 per click and get 2000 clicks, that's $2000 you owe. Now if you get the industry standard of 1% in sales, and you sell a $20 item, You made $400, not including fees. You are now only in the hole $1600. That can happen in one day.

So I'm thinking this might be a good thing for big business, but the small guy will have to be careful.

Just my 2 cents -

Carole
CommonSenseLiving.com
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some corrections
by zboot July 5, 2006 4:06 PM PDT
I'm sure you meant a $2000 item, not a $20 item.
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3rd Story on Google Payment System
by kieranmullen July 5, 2006 9:16 AM PDT
In the last 7 days from news.com Surely there is other news? How many different ways can you rehash the same old stuff?

KM
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3rd Story on Google Payment System
by kieranmullen July 5, 2006 9:16 AM PDT
In the last 7 days from news.com Surely there is other news? How many different ways can you rehash the same old stuff?

KM
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There is another factor..
by lsallen July 5, 2006 10:49 AM PDT
People just don't care.
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people do care
by df561 July 5, 2006 11:34 AM PDT
this could greatly boost e-commerce, also its a good shot for Google to diversify its income.

it's also scary because if successful, they really may start to have too much influence over the internet..and if Microsoft can't deal with these guys....who can?
There is another factor..
by lsallen July 5, 2006 10:49 AM PDT
People just don't care.
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people do care
by df561 July 5, 2006 11:34 AM PDT
this could greatly boost e-commerce, also its a good shot for Google to diversify its income.

it's also scary because if successful, they really may start to have too much influence over the internet..and if Microsoft can't deal with these guys....who can?
I don't trust...
by Heebee Jeebies July 5, 2006 10:51 AM PDT
...Google any more than Yahoo!, Microsoft, PayPal, ebay, Sun Microsystems, Apple or any other large greedy corporation. They do whatever they have to to make a buck. They can careless about their customers.

Robert
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Why should we trust Google
by kenchangsf July 5, 2006 11:34 AM PDT
Google has already made it clear that privacy means nothing to them by serving up ads based on content included in e-mails in their GMail service. The thought of Google aggregating payee data is a scary thought.
I don't trust...
by Heebee Jeebies July 5, 2006 10:51 AM PDT
...Google any more than Yahoo!, Microsoft, PayPal, ebay, Sun Microsystems, Apple or any other large greedy corporation. They do whatever they have to to make a buck. They can careless about their customers.

Robert
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Why should we trust Google
by kenchangsf July 5, 2006 11:34 AM PDT
Google has already made it clear that privacy means nothing to them by serving up ads based on content included in e-mails in their GMail service. The thought of Google aggregating payee data is a scary thought.
Trust Google? Not me...
by john55440 July 5, 2006 3:30 PM PDT
What a deal - with Google Search, GMail, and Google Checkout, the company will be able to put together a nice comprehensive dossier on their customers.
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Trust Google? Not me...
by john55440 July 5, 2006 3:30 PM PDT
What a deal - with Google Search, GMail, and Google Checkout, the company will be able to put together a nice comprehensive dossier on their customers.
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Big differences
by AbuLafya July 5, 2006 3:38 PM PDT
With Google it is no worse (and in fact better, see below) than buying online.
Google does not have any of your money, it only stores the data required to complete the purchase, not your passwords.

I think you are better of with this service because your CC number is not revealed to all these online stores with questionable security measures.
Also, you can get less SPAM by not reavealing your email address to the merchants.
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Uhh.. . NO
by zboot July 5, 2006 4:04 PM PDT
You seem to have misled yourself as to what google is doing. Google's service allows you to maintain your payment AND contact information in one place, rather than having to create an individual account with EVERY merchant you want to buy from.

The merchants will need to have your email address, after all, how exactly would they contact you if something goes wrong with your order? You still have the same potential to be spammed, you may just gain some protection if googles TOS prohibit the companies from spamming you. . . as opposed to the merchant's TOS when you register. . . which is usually worded to give them as much leeway as possible.
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Big differences
by AbuLafya July 5, 2006 3:38 PM PDT
With Google it is no worse (and in fact better, see below) than buying online.
Google does not have any of your money, it only stores the data required to complete the purchase, not your passwords.

I think you are better of with this service because your CC number is not revealed to all these online stores with questionable security measures.
Also, you can get less SPAM by not reavealing your email address to the merchants.
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Uhh.. . NO
by zboot July 5, 2006 4:04 PM PDT
You seem to have misled yourself as to what google is doing. Google's service allows you to maintain your payment AND contact information in one place, rather than having to create an individual account with EVERY merchant you want to buy from.

The merchants will need to have your email address, after all, how exactly would they contact you if something goes wrong with your order? You still have the same potential to be spammed, you may just gain some protection if googles TOS prohibit the companies from spamming you. . . as opposed to the merchant's TOS when you register. . . which is usually worded to give them as much leeway as possible.
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Broken Record
by flashfast July 6, 2006 12:16 AM PDT
It seems to me the constant complaints about google are
frivolous to say the least. Privacy? In the US, librarians are legally
bound to report to the government what books you read (bravo
that many have refused). In my latest country of choice,
Australia, privacy has flown out the window as the govt. here
just passed draconian laws destryoing privacy and human rights
e.g. the law now states that a person can be arrested for the
posession of a 'thing'. The first poor sod to be charged under
this law had posessed aerial photos of terrorists training camps.
A spy? In fact the photos were legally opbtained from a public
Israeli wesbite. Furthermore, it is the government which decides
if a defence lawyer is allowed to view the prosecution's evidence.
And Australia now has the most tapped telephones per capita
than any nation in the world, yet few here even know about it
(thanks to a tightly controlled media. Hopefully an independent
judiciary will rule against these ridiculous laws, as is inevitably
the case when they reach the higher courts.

My point is, when talking about google and privacy rights, I'd
rather trust them than any government of the new right.
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Broken Record
by flashfast July 6, 2006 12:16 AM PDT
It seems to me the constant complaints about google are
frivolous to say the least. Privacy? In the US, librarians are legally
bound to report to the government what books you read (bravo
that many have refused). In my latest country of choice,
Australia, privacy has flown out the window as the govt. here
just passed draconian laws destryoing privacy and human rights
e.g. the law now states that a person can be arrested for the
posession of a 'thing'. The first poor sod to be charged under
this law had posessed aerial photos of terrorists training camps.
A spy? In fact the photos were legally opbtained from a public
Israeli wesbite. Furthermore, it is the government which decides
if a defence lawyer is allowed to view the prosecution's evidence.
And Australia now has the most tapped telephones per capita
than any nation in the world, yet few here even know about it
(thanks to a tightly controlled media. Hopefully an independent
judiciary will rule against these ridiculous laws, as is inevitably
the case when they reach the higher courts.

My point is, when talking about google and privacy rights, I'd
rather trust them than any government of the new right.
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Trust on Google
by kalpesh_bhandari July 6, 2006 4:39 AM PDT
I think just everthing google produces is duped as a threat on Microsoft.

I think google threat to Microsoft is just like creating a analogy between OS and a application running on it.

Google work is just 15-20% of work microssoft does?

And its like everybody likes to enjoy a falling star but only till the time when they see its actually falling on them.

Kalpesh
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Trust on Google
by kalpesh_bhandari July 6, 2006 4:39 AM PDT
I think just everthing google produces is duped as a threat on Microsoft.

I think google threat to Microsoft is just like creating a analogy between OS and a application running on it.

Google work is just 15-20% of work microssoft does?

And its like everybody likes to enjoy a falling star but only till the time when they see its actually falling on them.

Kalpesh
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Just another Mac guy
by nmcphers July 5, 2006 8:34 AM PDT
I'm an Apple fan, but what was the point of that random link to Apple's new educational iMac?
nothing like passport
by df561 July 5, 2006 9:07 AM PDT
Passport tried to be a universal -login- Google Checkout is like having another credit card. That's why it's called "Checkout" excellent naming decision...it really makes it clear what they are up to.

So to compare it to Passport is way off. It is better to compare it to Paypal Merchant services...and PayPal is certainly successful.
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