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One feature which I liked the most is my spam mails have been reduced by a good percentage, now I very rarely get Spam mails.
What they didn't say is that to use the new drag and drop features you have to be using IE or your forced to use the classic interface. I don't see any technical reason behind this Yahoo's new beta works in most all major browsers.
When GMAIL came out it gave me the opportunity to get the exact email address I wanted (and 1 for each of my kids for future use).
From this article it sounds like I should be able to get a new .live one at some point but since I've grown up on web based email the Outlook 'look' does nothing for me.
Therefore...do I leave .gmail for .live for what the article says is basically MS just catching up. Probably not.
It also sounds from the article that MS is going to embed ads (for 3rd parties) into OUTGOING emails...that is something I really would not want to see and I would probably leave .gmail if they started to do that too.
So, in summary, it looks like Hotmail is doing a good job to 'catch up' and that should help MS stay relevant moving forward. I do think, however, that those it lost are probably gone for good.
My 2cents.
BSD, then they changed the outside to windows servers to look like
it was windows running the service. I hear they are using LAMP
architecture for Windows Live.
Typical crappy effort by MSN
B: I'm a Gmail user
If this, in your opinion, is a 'typically crappy effort by MSN (??)' why are you using hotmail?
This is a BETA and I would expect MS to 'perfect' their product to work within THEIR products before making it work within a 3rd party product that has 10-15% of market share.
Again...I'm not using it but I think we have to a: cut them some slack so they get it right on their browser first and b: continue to encourage innovation by all players (Yahoo/Google/Aol/MS) in the web services area. It makes it better for us that want to pick and choose.
Oh wait, this is MS we are talking about.
Competition where MS plays is a good thing - especially from the likes of Google.
name change is 'gifted' as if this is some kind of advantage.
They gotta be kidding!
Let me get this straight. They change from a snappy, easy to say
name that is far enough removed from Microsoft that many
people don't realize the connection there, to a name that is
harder to say and guarantees an association in peoples minds
with viruses and security flaws.
And it is tied to a browser that is the worst on the planet, then
they think people will swallow ads on their private messages. No
wonder these guys can't figure out why other companies are
doing so well.
Go Google! Microsoft just gave me a reason to get myself a g-
mail account.
PC Mag by John Dvorak about IE (which is so intimately tied to
the new Hotmail) here that is interesting reading in light of the
Hotmail / IE connection.
Article is here:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1952997,00.asp
I get the feeling that the new Hotmail may be cobbled together
by the same means described by Dvorak.
When I say features I mean simple things like being able to empty a trash can without tagging every message with a mouse click and then hitting the delete.
This is especially annoying if you receive large amounts of junk mail.
The layout looks like it was "designed" by someone who was given web page layout software for the first time and felt it necessary to put everything on screen at once. It reminds me of when DTP software first started to become popular, and companies would start attempting to design their own literature instead of leaving it to the professionals - which is exactly what Microsoft should do here.
Let someone who knows what they're doing design their websites and mail portals, because they clearly don't have a clue.
Windows Live is probably one of the worst websites I've ever seen in my life.
Not just You, me, but everyone. That's whats keeping it in Beta right now.
It's not the best of the best yet. It's still got a long ways to go and still got alot more features to add in to appeal to every user to make every user happy.
(By the way you do know you can still sign up with a cellphone right?)
Another big reason why they won't allow people to sign up without an invite or a cellphone is to keep people who just want to have multiple gmail accounts to use to spam people with. You get what I mean?
I think the invite only system is a good method to avoid propagation of spam accounts.
It's not hard to find someone to invite you.
Windows Live Mail, on the other hand, requires IE and IE only, or else you get "classic" Hotmail.
No contest: as has been happening more and more often, Microsoft is left behind due to its stubborn insistence on rejecting Web standards.
On the plus side the MS changes over the years have been useful when there is time to bother with them.
On the down side some of the animated ads can slow down the browser on a brand new system and for an even slightly older one can make hotmail unusable while the ad is running.
For spam a lot gets through in part because a handful are coming from the ones who pay for those annoying ads on hotmail while many of the others are from MS lifting the original user name restrictions. So now when joeshmoe10000000 signs up for something and joeshmoe1 gets their junk instead because 10000000 missed a few numbers on registering for whatever. (note the pre-MShotmail would not allow the numbers so that there could be only one joeshmoe)
- I tried the Windows Live Beta.....
- by naddy69 April 26, 2006 3:16 PM PDT
- I tried it for a couple of weeks, and switched back to the old Hotmail style. The useable screen area was absurdly small. Way too cluttered with ads and other useless stuff. Yes I left feedback saying this when I opted out!
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (75 Comments)Perhaps I should try it again, if MS has removed the long ad down the right side of the screen.