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The company offers free DVR boxes in exchange for videotapes and new subscriptions.

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Come on, Tivo exist to skip commercials
by bobby_brady October 14, 2005 2:53 PM PDT
I know Tivo doesn't like to market their device as a commercial skipper, but that's the major reason why it's so popular. Commercials have become more intrusive and take up 20 minutes in a 60 minute program. The way we consumers can fight back is with the PVR.
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Come on, Tivo exist to skip commercials
by bobby_brady October 14, 2005 2:53 PM PDT
I know Tivo doesn't like to market their device as a commercial skipper, but that's the major reason why it's so popular. Commercials have become more intrusive and take up 20 minutes in a 60 minute program. The way we consumers can fight back is with the PVR.
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VCR IS FREE!!
by Vetter83 October 14, 2005 3:12 PM PDT
We will see who survives when the economy tanks and the subscriptions shrink... My VCR is still free.
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Try recording 10 programs on 10 channels in one day on a VCR
by lingsun October 15, 2005 6:03 AM PDT
The best thing about Tivo is the programming capability. I can record 10 programs on 10 different channels in one day. I'm not limited to one tape a day if I'm not home. VCRs are free to use after you buy them but they suck!!
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VCR IS FREE!!
by Vetter83 October 14, 2005 3:12 PM PDT
We will see who survives when the economy tanks and the subscriptions shrink... My VCR is still free.
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Try recording 10 programs on 10 channels in one day on a VCR
by lingsun October 15, 2005 6:03 AM PDT
The best thing about Tivo is the programming capability. I can record 10 programs on 10 different channels in one day. I'm not limited to one tape a day if I'm not home. VCRs are free to use after you buy them but they suck!!
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VCR is free but tapes are not
by Orion Blastar October 14, 2005 3:44 PM PDT
I am getting tired of buying VHS tapes, even as cheap as $1, and the tapes run out or the VCR gets old and eats them.

For $5.99 a month TIVO can record more TV shows and movies than I can afford to buy in tapes. I even have an option to "Save to Tape" what TIVO recorded, so I can still use my VCR for shows that I want to keep for a long time. My satelite company gives me that $5.99 a month discount, instead of the TIVO $12 a month price.

It is still cheaper than the Apple iTunes store that sells TV Shows by ABC/Disney for $1.99 each, what a scam that turns out to be.

TIVO uses digital recording, and is a better quality than VCR recording.

Plus if the power goes out, so does my VCR programming, but TIVO remembers my programming schedule even after a black out. As long as power comes on before my program starts to record, it works fine. I also have to switch VCR tapes, and only can record 6 hours on a tape at SLP speed which lowers the quality. If I need to record 10 movies in one day, that would be 2 hours per movie, or 20 hours total and require me to use 4 VHS tapes and switch them at least three to four times between movies. TIVO can record all 20 hours for me without switching a tape, as long as schedules do not conflict.

Plus TIVO can record two things at once, can my VCR do that?
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VCR is free but tapes are not
by Orion Blastar October 14, 2005 3:44 PM PDT
I am getting tired of buying VHS tapes, even as cheap as $1, and the tapes run out or the VCR gets old and eats them.

For $5.99 a month TIVO can record more TV shows and movies than I can afford to buy in tapes. I even have an option to "Save to Tape" what TIVO recorded, so I can still use my VCR for shows that I want to keep for a long time. My satelite company gives me that $5.99 a month discount, instead of the TIVO $12 a month price.

It is still cheaper than the Apple iTunes store that sells TV Shows by ABC/Disney for $1.99 each, what a scam that turns out to be.

TIVO uses digital recording, and is a better quality than VCR recording.

Plus if the power goes out, so does my VCR programming, but TIVO remembers my programming schedule even after a black out. As long as power comes on before my program starts to record, it works fine. I also have to switch VCR tapes, and only can record 6 hours on a tape at SLP speed which lowers the quality. If I need to record 10 movies in one day, that would be 2 hours per movie, or 20 hours total and require me to use 4 VHS tapes and switch them at least three to four times between movies. TIVO can record all 20 hours for me without switching a tape, as long as schedules do not conflict.

Plus TIVO can record two things at once, can my VCR do that?
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Facts wrong: numbers are new subscribers, not total number
by lingsun October 15, 2005 5:59 AM PDT
The numbers are wrong. Tivo has over 3 million subscribers. It's just that they're not adding them as fast as they used to.
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TiVo subscribers
by msingersfo October 17, 2005 9:14 AM PDT
Bill,
Thank you for your interest in the story and the clarification. We are adjusting the paragraph accordingly.
Facts wrong: numbers are new subscribers, not total number
by lingsun October 15, 2005 5:59 AM PDT
The numbers are wrong. Tivo has over 3 million subscribers. It's just that they're not adding them as fast as they used to.
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TiVo subscribers
by msingersfo October 17, 2005 9:14 AM PDT
Bill,
Thank you for your interest in the story and the clarification. We are adjusting the paragraph accordingly.
TiVo isn't just time shifting...
by webdev511 October 15, 2005 11:02 PM PDT
It's the interface, season pass manager, wish lists, showcases, onscreen info, and tivo's suggestions.

Anyone can build and sell a dvr with timeshifting, or record a show by channel and time, but what TiVo does best also happens to be what they have patents on.

get someone to use a generic dvr, then give them a TiVo. Now try to take the TiVo away. Good luck with that.
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TiVo isn't just time shifting...
by webdev511 October 15, 2005 11:02 PM PDT
It's the interface, season pass manager, wish lists, showcases, onscreen info, and tivo's suggestions.

Anyone can build and sell a dvr with timeshifting, or record a show by channel and time, but what TiVo does best also happens to be what they have patents on.

get someone to use a generic dvr, then give them a TiVo. Now try to take the TiVo away. Good luck with that.
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TiVO and VCRs reason we are lumps
by eeee October 17, 2005 5:28 AM PDT
What is all this hysteria about recording 10 shows in 1 day and 2 shows at once??
We have had that for 20 years with VCRs and how many of those do people watch after they record them?
These are products that contribute to 60% of Americans being overwieght (FAT) and in poor health: sitiing on a couch or in front of a PC or video game pushing a joy stick controller button is dumb. Get out and get into playing sports or bike riding with the kids.
Who cares about if TiVO or VCRs can record 20 hours or 50 hours--- Get real !
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What a bunch of luddites!!
by shoffmueller October 17, 2005 12:43 PM PDT
Who needs a new fangled DVR when I got my linear access VCR? Looks just fine on my B&W TV. And Cable? Bah! On a clear day, I can pull in Raleigh over my roof-top antenna.
TiVO and VCRs reason we are lumps
by eeee October 17, 2005 5:28 AM PDT
What is all this hysteria about recording 10 shows in 1 day and 2 shows at once??
We have had that for 20 years with VCRs and how many of those do people watch after they record them?
These are products that contribute to 60% of Americans being overwieght (FAT) and in poor health: sitiing on a couch or in front of a PC or video game pushing a joy stick controller button is dumb. Get out and get into playing sports or bike riding with the kids.
Who cares about if TiVO or VCRs can record 20 hours or 50 hours--- Get real !
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What a bunch of luddites!!
by shoffmueller October 17, 2005 12:43 PM PDT
Who needs a new fangled DVR when I got my linear access VCR? Looks just fine on my B&W TV. And Cable? Bah! On a clear day, I can pull in Raleigh over my roof-top antenna.
For Tivo to remain competitive....
by October 17, 2005 11:27 AM PDT
Tivo needs to come out with a Cablecard HD unit.

Yes the VCR is dieing, but the reason is not just Tivo, but all DVRs.

The number of new subscribers is decreasing because more people are switching to digital cable. Tivo does not offer a good DVR solution for digital cable and HD.

More people will choose to get their cable company's DVR because it is an all-in-one solution.

Once Tivo brings out their Cablecard DVR that can record HD the number of new subscribers will increase.

Anyone who has used Tivo and other DVRs from Comcast, Cablevision, etc will tell you that Tivo is a much easier and better way to record and watch TV. It is just that Tivo's technology is getting old and the competition is increasing. Bring on the new Tivo with the same interface and useability and watch it's market share grow.
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For Tivo to remain competitive....
by October 17, 2005 11:27 AM PDT
Tivo needs to come out with a Cablecard HD unit.

Yes the VCR is dieing, but the reason is not just Tivo, but all DVRs.

The number of new subscribers is decreasing because more people are switching to digital cable. Tivo does not offer a good DVR solution for digital cable and HD.

More people will choose to get their cable company's DVR because it is an all-in-one solution.

Once Tivo brings out their Cablecard DVR that can record HD the number of new subscribers will increase.

Anyone who has used Tivo and other DVRs from Comcast, Cablevision, etc will tell you that Tivo is a much easier and better way to record and watch TV. It is just that Tivo's technology is getting old and the competition is increasing. Bring on the new Tivo with the same interface and useability and watch it's market share grow.
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TIVO is garbage
by ajbright October 17, 2005 5:40 PM PDT
compared to any other dvr offered by cable and satellite companies.

My dvr has no commercials sent to it, it has no locking software stopping me from recording whatever I want, it doesn't display adverts when I fast forward thru commercials, and it has all of the features that tivo offer - only it costs me nothing, because it's also my cable box, the first three are free.

As most cable companies don't have know how to program locks into the boxe's firmware, and provide the content themselves, I can always record at least 480P or 480I into my DVD burner for DVD quality copies, with the commercials edited out.

It even has a firewire port to transfer the data straight to my PC at whatever resolution I want, although storing 720P or 1080I resolution TV with Dolby 5.1 sound would mean a dedicated HD just for that.

So why anyone would actually pay for a tivo subscription service on a device that is constantly updated with more and more restrictions (if they're not going to implement these restrictions why would they upgrade the firmware to include them?) as well as commercials, is beyond me.

It's just weird that people would do that, when they can get multiple dvrs from cable or satellite companies for free.
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TIVO is garbage
by ajbright October 17, 2005 5:40 PM PDT
compared to any other dvr offered by cable and satellite companies.

My dvr has no commercials sent to it, it has no locking software stopping me from recording whatever I want, it doesn't display adverts when I fast forward thru commercials, and it has all of the features that tivo offer - only it costs me nothing, because it's also my cable box, the first three are free.

As most cable companies don't have know how to program locks into the boxe's firmware, and provide the content themselves, I can always record at least 480P or 480I into my DVD burner for DVD quality copies, with the commercials edited out.

It even has a firewire port to transfer the data straight to my PC at whatever resolution I want, although storing 720P or 1080I resolution TV with Dolby 5.1 sound would mean a dedicated HD just for that.

So why anyone would actually pay for a tivo subscription service on a device that is constantly updated with more and more restrictions (if they're not going to implement these restrictions why would they upgrade the firmware to include them?) as well as commercials, is beyond me.

It's just weird that people would do that, when they can get multiple dvrs from cable or satellite companies for free.
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