Comments on: Import ban on 3G handsets could hurt industry

A ban on all importation of future 3G handset models using Qualcomm technology could have a big impact on cell phone operators and handset manufacturers.

[MadKiwi]

iPhone

Maybe Apple knew something when they didn't make the iPhone 3G compatible...

[baisa]

Patents are insane

Let's see... most tech companies do not do patent searches because to do so could expose them to treble damages. So they apply for their own patents where applicable, and design otherwise assuming nothing infringes.

So then how in the world could a world without patents be that much different from today... minus all the huge litigation costs and headaches?

Patents are one of those things like burning witches -- people are aghast at first at the concept of abolition ("you want your children posessed and fed to the devil????") but after it happens everyone realizes it was ridiculous or superfluous in the first place.

[nachurboy]

Patents mostly good

If we didn't have patents to litigate civilly, you'd surely see a world where gun slinging is still legal. Without legal rights to protect not only your physical property, but also your intellectual property, the only recourse would be to fight for it to defend your rights. An no, witch hunting and a property rights dispute is not analogous. I don't see anyone think patents are ridiculous or superfluous. It may have issues, but I highly doubt you'd want a world where anyone could come into your house and take whatever they want, just because you left your door open.

[sethwr]

Good i hope it hurts

i hope all these big corporations that are so gung-hoe on keeping patents around to protect "their" hard work and innovation are all bitten by this incident... we should all sit back and laugh as these losers' money goes down the drain.

And lets make one thing clear: this will have ZERO impact on public safety as they're claiming! nobody needs a 3G radio to make them self safer...

[nicmart]

Envy as a weapon

It's no accident that envy is one of the "seven deadly sins." Unlike
greed, which can motivate people to invent and produce profitable
products and services, envy is entirely negative. Cell phone makers
satisfy mlllions of customers, but sethwr merely satisfies his own
resentment and bitterness.

[CPickler]

Patents

Well, ok so patens aren't protected, what desire is there to create something new if as soon as someone buys one copy of your software, device or whatever it is. People take it apart and manufacted the exact same thing and sell it for far cheaper than the original person can sell it for because of the research and development costs. Company's would have absolutely no motivation to create anything remotely useable or if they still created software it would be labored with such draconian DRM that if you tried to access it in anyway that the software didn't like it could self distruct. Patents protect more than just the companies. Also, I am a small business owner, and I have a patent. I am my entire company but my patend prevents people from stealing and using my code without my permission. And btw, yes it was "my" hard work that created the patent and the patent subject.

3G in and of itself does not help public safety, however their argument is less high tech phones will be sold like the ones that include GPS, which can be helpful in safety situations

[ScottRay]

3G Chipsets

A positive aspect for the long term is that cell phone designers will start using 3G chipsets from other suppliers. Less reliance on Qualcomm, will ultimately help innovation in the cell phone industry.

[FirePig]

3G Chipsets

It is hard to follow your logic.

Whenever a competitor is restricted in the marketplace by legal rulings like this, it reduces innovation. Qualcomm is the leader in 3G chipsets because it is more innovative than its competitors.

Restricting QCOM will certainly help its competitors who were less innovatieve. Just how this increases innovation escapes me.

[sreynard]

Patent = Monopoly

Would one of you patent legal experts please explain the difference between a patent and a government granted monopoly? Isn't a patent just a monopoly to prevent others from competing against you?

It seems to me to be a rather large stretch to say that because somebody is stealing something if they copy an idea. This is especially true when you don't even need to make an attempt to implement the idea, to say nothing of trying to sell it in the marketplace, to prevent others from trying. No wonder there are so many rumors of corporations buying patents just to bury them to prevent competition to their own products.

[sreynard]

editting?

Oops, editing challenged today. Forgot to remove the 'because'.

[Quemann]

Patent protection is a necessary evil

I agree with you on the negative side of patents.
However, if you work at a big corporation and you work vigorously, coming up innovative ideas for the management. Mostly the top management takes your bright ideas, but later if you find your bright ideas are rewarding your boss, not you, then what would you say? Okay, let the boss reap the benefit, and I am glad I will continue to be his workhorse. Is that fair?

[TucsonAlexAZ]

Not a patent legal expert

but the difference is simple. A patent protects others from making money off of your idea, it does not prevent them from licencing the idea and using it for their own product. The government has nothing to do with stifling competition, they just hold the patent and enforce infringement.

[Quemann]

skip 3G to jump 4G

A lot of Americans don't know that USA is much behind other countries like Korea, Japan and EU, when it comes to mobile and cellular technology.
All the latest generation of mobile phones in USA is
an old generation that was outdated 3 to 4 years in Korea and Japan. The reason is that Verizon and AT&T has enough broadband networks that don't need to run to meet 4G at a huge expense. On the other hand, Sprint has got 80% of 2.3 GhZ spectrum in USA and is striving to build 4G network by the end of 2008.
The reason is smaller markets like Korea and Japan are much easier to convert to new mobile technology becasue it is easier to shift away from the aftermarket of the conventional technology.Actually, WiMAX and EVDO are two rival technologies whose competition, if extended over a decade,will sacrifice consumers to a large extent. Their competition should come to an end and hopefuly the two technologies should find a way to mutually complement tecnological limitations. And patent infringements should be settled between parties to maximize the public good, minimize the infriger's burden and maximize the inventor's compensation.

[spl68]

Nice day to open a phone factory in the States

This is a ban on /imported/ phones. There's nothing to stop Samsung, LG, etc. from opening a factory in the States and using Qualcomm chips. If labour costs are too high, well, there are 12 million humans who are physically in the States but don't count as people...

[CLShortFuse]

The article is inaccurate. CDMA phones only are affected, not GSM

The patent only applies to CDMA's EVDO not GSM phones. AT&T and T-Mobile are NOT affected by this.

[FirePig]

wCDMA is still CDMA

The article is accurate, you are not very well informed on this issue.

Although GSM only phones are not effected by this ruling, all "future" 3G phones including wCDMA (also called 3G and UMTS) and CDMA2000 (EV-DO) will be effected. Qualcomm chipsets are used in most 3G phones (in the generic sense).

GSM is a TDMA air interface and has much more in common with the Japanese PDC air interface than it does to the wCDMA (UMTS) air interface.

CDMA is a very different air interface which is used in UMTS and CDMA2000.