Comments on: Municipal broadband and wireless projects map

Government-sponsored projects to provide fiber-optic or wireless networks are taking off across the United States, as are efforts to legislate the issue in state capitols.

You forgot Loma Linda, CA

The map says that there are no functioning Muni-FttH/P projects in California. This is in fact incorrect. Loma Linda, CA is in the process of building a Municipal FttH/P network, with parts of the community already recieving service. You can read about it here: http://www.lomalinda-ca.gov/llccp_index.htm

[pencoyd]

Loma Linda, CA was added

Appreciate the notice. Loma Linda was added. This map is not a static, frozen resource -- we're updating as we learn more and confirm the tips and information our readers share with us. Sorry to miss things first time around, but thanks for reading.

John Roberts
CNET News.com product development

You forgot Loma Linda, CA

The map says that there are no functioning Muni-FttH/P projects in California. This is in fact incorrect. Loma Linda, CA is in the process of building a Municipal FttH/P network, with parts of the community already recieving service. You can read about it here: http://www.lomalinda-ca.gov/llccp_index.htm

[pencoyd]

Loma Linda, CA was added

Appreciate the notice. Loma Linda was added. This map is not a static, frozen resource -- we're updating as we learn more and confirm the tips and information our readers share with us. Sorry to miss things first time around, but thanks for reading.

John Roberts
CNET News.com product development

[kellymcgowan]

Map the GOP controlled states

It would be interesting to map the states with laws limiting
municipal communication networks and the control of the
legislature and executive branches at the time the laws were
enacted. I'll bet it shows how pro-business and anti-american
(citizens anyway) the GOP has become.

re: Map the GOP controlled states

I'm a liberal Demo but this would be bad for so many people. I work for verizon dsl dept and it's huge. gov controller dsl would put alot of people out of work. if the gov paid verizon that would be a different story but my (as well as many others) depend on that. And a side note... our fiber stuff is going to be huge and very reasonably priced. nothing like cable's $50 a month, we're talking about 5mbps at dsl prices.

[Christopher Hall]

I'm not so sure about that

Hover over the state of Connecticut and you'll see a whole lot of nothing.

We aren't exactly a red state.

[kellymcgowan]

Map the GOP controlled states

It would be interesting to map the states with laws limiting
municipal communication networks and the control of the
legislature and executive branches at the time the laws were
enacted. I'll bet it shows how pro-business and anti-american
(citizens anyway) the GOP has become.

re: Map the GOP controlled states

I'm a liberal Demo but this would be bad for so many people. I work for verizon dsl dept and it's huge. gov controller dsl would put alot of people out of work. if the gov paid verizon that would be a different story but my (as well as many others) depend on that. And a side note... our fiber stuff is going to be huge and very reasonably priced. nothing like cable's $50 a month, we're talking about 5mbps at dsl prices.

[Christopher Hall]

I'm not so sure about that

Hover over the state of Connecticut and you'll see a whole lot of nothing.

We aren't exactly a red state.

Verizon FiOS in Hummelstown PA 17036

April 20th - Verizon met with the Town Council and announced that in two weeks they would start to install FiOS throughout the town, 8,500 households. They said the work would be finished by the end of the year.

Update

A copy of the story can be found here: http://www.dbsforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=354086

Verizon FiOS in Hummelstown PA 17036

April 20th - Verizon met with the Town Council and announced that in two weeks they would start to install FiOS throughout the town, 8,500 households. They said the work would be finished by the end of the year.

Update

A copy of the story can be found here: http://www.dbsforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?s=&postid=354086

inaccurate map

There is no municipal wireless project in Seattle. In fact, the city government is oppsed to municipal wireless projects on the grounds that it would compate against Comcast. There are many private network hotspots, but no municipal effort and no support for one, at this time.

inaccurate map

There is no municipal wireless project in Seattle. In fact, the city government is oppsed to municipal wireless projects on the grounds that it would compate against Comcast. There are many private network hotspots, but no municipal effort and no support for one, at this time.

Many more projects in Vermont

Vermont has many broadband initiatives, mostly driven by citizen committees in Vermont's smaller rural towns. Projects are supported by the Vermont Council on Rural Development's Vermont Rural Broadband Project. See "Community Broadband Projects" as www.VermontRuralBroadband.org.

Oops - wrong URL

The Vermont Rural Broadband Project web site is www.VTRuralBroadband.org

inaccurate map re Seattle; WA

There is no municipal wireless project in Seattle. In fact, the city government is oppsed to municipal wireless projects on the grounds that it would compate against Comcast. There are many private network hotspots, but no municipal effort and no support for one, at this time.

The legislation limited networks in WA state is very limited. First, it applies only to public utility districts (read rural electric co-ops). Second, it requires that the books segregate costs for the telecom networ, but doesn't explicitly prohibit sudsidization. Most PUDs have interpreted the legislation to limit retail ISPs. So they provide wholesale broadband only. That's it. Not too bad, as these things go.

inaccurate map re Seattle; WA

There is no municipal wireless project in Seattle. In fact, the city government is oppsed to municipal wireless projects on the grounds that it would compate against Comcast. There are many private network hotspots, but no municipal effort and no support for one, at this time.

The legislation limited networks in WA state is very limited. First, it applies only to public utility districts (read rural electric co-ops). Second, it requires that the books segregate costs for the telecom networ, but doesn't explicitly prohibit sudsidization. Most PUDs have interpreted the legislation to limit retail ISPs. So they provide wholesale broadband only. That's it. Not too bad, as these things go.

[rajid--2008]

map doesn't work

I have tried viewing this map using Safari, Camino, Internet Explorer, and Mozilla. When I punch on one of the states, it just gives me "javascript: void(0)" and doesn't do anything. Yes, I have Java and Javascript turned on, I have no popup blocker, etc.

Don't click the buttons, just scroll over them.

Don't click the buttons, just scroll over them.

[aclottmann]

Please contact me about the problems you're experiencing

Sorry to hear you're having trouble with the map. I'm on the
production team here at News.com. Can you contact me directly
so I can get a better understanding of what is and isn't working
for you? My email address is [e-mail].

[rajid--2008]

map doesn't work

I have tried viewing this map using Safari, Camino, Internet Explorer, and Mozilla. When I punch on one of the states, it just gives me "javascript: void(0)" and doesn't do anything. Yes, I have Java and Javascript turned on, I have no popup blocker, etc.

Don't click the buttons, just scroll over them.

Don't click the buttons, just scroll over them.

[aclottmann]

Please contact me about the problems you're experiencing

Sorry to hear you're having trouble with the map. I'm on the
production team here at News.com. Can you contact me directly
so I can get a better understanding of what is and isn't working
for you? My email address is [e-mail].

Cedar Falls, IA missing

Cedar Falls, IA ran municipal fiber to the house a decade ago and has been providing remote meter reading, cable, and data services for at least that long.

Cedar Falls, IA missing

Cedar Falls, IA ran municipal fiber to the house a decade ago and has been providing remote meter reading, cable, and data services for at least that long.

[KarenSaid]

Keep the tips coming in

Thanks for all of your responses, especially those letting us at CNET News.com know about other municipal wireless or fiber projects. We're working on updating the map with these as soon as we can.

Please keep sending us information about city initiatives to pipe broadband to the home via these Talkback postings. We appreciate your help in making this map as comprehensive as possible.

[wraptur]

Utah Update/Clarification

Under Municipal Wireless you should get rid of all of those cities they should actually be included in the municipal fiber projects (Utopia Project).

Utopia Project Includes 16 cities:
Lindon, Orem, Payson, Perry, Brigham City, Tremonton, Washington, Vineyard, Riverton, Cedar City, Murray, Midvale, West Valley City, Centerville, Cedar Hills, & Layton

(for reference see utopianet.org)


The Provo Project is called iProvo and it is fiber

Thanks

Oakland County, MI

Oakland County, Michigan has a pretty aggresively scheduled program to cover the whole county with wireless broadband. They plan to pilot in Fall of '05 and go county-wide in Winter '06.

http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/wireless/

At 910 square miles and a population 1.2 million I understand it's one of the largest government broadband wireless programs around.

Oakland County, MI

Oakland County, Michigan has a pretty aggresively scheduled program to cover the whole county with wireless broadband. They plan to pilot in Fall of '05 and go county-wide in Winter '06.

http://www.co.oakland.mi.us/wireless/

At 910 square miles and a population 1.2 million I understand it's one of the largest government broadband wireless programs around.

Illinois legislation

Your map indicates that there is no language pending in Illinois to limit municipal broadband when, in fact, Republican gubernatorial candidate state Senator Steve Rauschenberger has introduced preemptive language (SB 499):

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/94/SB/PDF/09400SB0499sam001.pdf

Good think we have a democratically controlled state legislature. Otherwise Rauschenberger's bill might have moved...

[Maggie Reardon]

Illinois legislation

I just checked the map, and it already indicates that Illinois has pending legislation to limit municipal communications.

Thanks for your comment!

Illinois legislation

Your map indicates that there is no language pending in Illinois to limit municipal broadband when, in fact, Republican gubernatorial candidate state Senator Steve Rauschenberger has introduced preemptive language (SB 499):

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/94/SB/PDF/09400SB0499sam001.pdf

Good think we have a democratically controlled state legislature. Otherwise Rauschenberger's bill might have moved...

[Maggie Reardon]

Illinois legislation

I just checked the map, and it already indicates that Illinois has pending legislation to limit municipal communications.

Thanks for your comment!