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Larry Roberts was in on the birth of the Internet. Now his new company is offering a tune-up for today's traffic.

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Lets evaluate this paragraph for a little bit.....
by OneWithTech August 6, 2007 7:41 AM PDT
"Because they can distinguish between the different types of traffic, the service providers will be able to offer tiered services at different prices, Roberts said."


I believe I read some wording here on CNET regarding something with Congress, a Telco and something that went like this: "were not going to create a tired internet because you did this for us..."


What they really meant is: "..but if someone else were to create the hardware/software and then sell it to us...well.. we'd have to find a way to use it."

You see Congress...without some laid down laws to deal with this **** like Net Neutrality, companies like this will continue to figure out a way to make what started out as a free internet a very expensive venture for all of us that don't run a telco or ISP or cable company.

You know, all those that have to pay not only to get onto to the internet but also those who pay to host websites. You see, I do both. I have to pay to connect to the web and I have to pay a hosting provider for my clients to host there websites.

So if you could imagine, Net Neutrality affects those like me the most, you know, the rest of the of 99% of the internet and World Wide Web.

Now with this company creating a device with an EXACT statement of "creating a tired web" needs to be dealt with sooner than later or it's going to get very expensive for all of us.


Justin
Tech01.net
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I agree
by Randys2cents August 6, 2007 10:19 AM PDT
Glad to see I am not the only one to catch the word "TIERED" in this
article. It is like having Segways and SR-71's on the same road. The
problem also creates havoc for content producers who have to
make different types of sites/content for different users. Not to
mention different types of compression schemes, resolutions, etc.
I say, pick a speed, and give everyone that speed. Randys2cents
one paragraph said it all
by dondarko August 6, 2007 2:53 PM PDT
"Because they can distinguish between the different types of traffic, the service providers will be able to offer tiered services at different prices, Roberts said."

that paragraph said it all...
RBOC's
by LittleGazoo August 6, 2007 9:18 AM PDT
This falls in the Internet design for a "Dumb Internet" vs "Smart Internet". Dumb Internet has served us very well for years. A move to a Smart Internet could be commericalized by RBOCs and their lobbyists. Also it depends on where RBOCs attempt to smart-up the Internet, Core or to the Edge. It will be very expensive for Internet providers to replace all edge-switch equipment versus upgrading core-routers.
I would just like a dumb QOS enabled cable/modem switch which would simply divide "MY 5-10Mps pipe" into 3 QOS pipes for video, voice and other.
Keeps it simple and I should not have to pay extra or be walled-into the provider services.
QED
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hasn't linux had ECN for years?
by minitrue August 6, 2007 9:53 AM PDT
Explicit Congestion Notification.
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this is giving a boost to anti-neutrality camp
by dondarko August 6, 2007 2:51 PM PDT
sadly...
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question for Elinor Mills
by dondarko August 6, 2007 2:57 PM PDT
how about making any remarks on the impact of this retard on net neutrality? Why are you making it look and sound all wonderful without discussing any impacts this will have?

IT SHOULD READ:
What's new:
Businesses kill net neutrality without Congress.

Bottom line:
Be ready to pay more for for internet access, services and goods purchased on the net. Big Business now controls the internet.
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Elinor responds
by elinormills August 7, 2007 11:31 AM PDT
These comments pose interesting debate. I asked Anagran if Larry Roberts would like to respond and was informed that he is on vacation and unreachable. I discussed the issue with Jerald Murphy, research director at consulting and research firm Robert Francis Group and he said that technology in use today would enable companies to prioritize traffic in order to charge different prices. "I wouldn't say Anagran technology is going to force the hand of Net Neutrality. That's a political argument that will be fought on Capital Hill."
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