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Comments on: Are Google's moves creeping you out?

Search giant helps people view things from the street as well as the sky. Some privacy advocates worry that it's going too far.
Photos: Google street views hit home

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of course!!! it HAS to be Microsofts fault
by compguru13 June 12, 2007 4:41 PM PDT
would you mind explaining how Microsoft has anything to do with this article?! They don't own google. Your making no sense, just showing your lack of intelligence and excess of paranoia
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as a response to Is googling creeping you out?
by compguru13 June 12, 2007 4:42 PM PDT
my bad
medical center pictures
by wylbur June 13, 2007 10:07 AM PDT
Why the pictures of the UCSF Medical Center Parnassus Campus
that provides emergency medicine, reproductive medicine, HIV
treatment, domestic violence counseling, etc.? Pictures of people
coming and going from there are not really needed and certainly
not very sensitive to patients who may not want their faces
shown to the world. Indeed, the idea that google vans are going
to photograph people coming and going from a medical center
may discourage some from seeking needed care.

This is a medical center near Google's home, they should know
what it is and be sensitive to patients. This should be an obvious
place not to take pictures. (Also, as a top 10 medical center it is
considered a likely terrorist target which is another reason a
responsible company would not want to post pictures of it, but I
guess if they'll post pictures of the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel they
just don't give a <bleep> about anybody but themselves).

Hey let's all go to the Google campuses and photograph
everybody coming and going and create a website filled with
pictures of every googler!
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Remember when...
by Jelly Baby June 13, 2007 10:45 AM PDT
It doesn't seem so long ago that the new kid on the block, Google was seen as the good guy. And now here he is with all his delinquent mates camped out in your living room.
There must be a critical mass of turnover which turns a company from "best kept secret" into a paria to be avoided at all cost. I don't have a problem with what Google do and as a search engine it certainly seems to work reasonably well.
Maybe it's our fault? We always expect growth and developement. Any company which does something well but doesn't move on from there is seen as going backwards.

As for "considered a likely terrorist target..." How often is the paranoid card going to come out of the pack? If you let these "terrorists" change your life - they've won!

Posting pictures of the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel -- how dare they!? They'll steal it's soul
love it
by gggg sssss June 14, 2007 6:21 PM PDT
I have a camera with a 400 mm lens
Medical Center Pictures - Certainly a Problem!
by amelia jade June 15, 2007 12:23 AM PDT
wylbur said Google was taking pictures of people going in to and out of a medical center. This is definitely not right. If I'm going to a medical office, I do not want Google taking my picture. Think about women who want an abortion. Will they feel comfortable going into an abortion clinic when Google might take their picture? How about a mental health center? Will people be willing to seek help for various mental illnesses if their picture might be shown by Google? What about men getting a vastectomy? Do you want your colleagues teasing you the next day about your manhood after seeing you go into the vastectomy clinic?

Many people have said that we should not consider that we have privacy outside of our homes. Why not? I'm not out doing anything wrong. However, I don't think it's right that Google takes my picture and makes it available to anyone on the Internet. It's none of your business. I am not being paranoid. I just think we need to be more careful and more vocal about groups and governments doing this type of thing. Let one group do one thing ... then the next group will take it a little farther ... then the next. Is this how we, as a society, want to live? I think not.
Free software, free beer and free lunch...
by arunk99 June 13, 2007 4:02 PM PDT
If people want privacy, they are going to move away from "free" services to low-cost private networks; see
http://www.kerika.com/2007/06/free-software-free-beer-and-free-lunch.html
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Google has an odd attitude
by qwerty75 June 13, 2007 8:21 PM PDT
Their attitude is basically "we can do what we want with your copyrighted works, pictures, and habit".

What is astounding is that they have a overall positive public perception.

Well it took many years for people to clue in that MS is evil. Hopefully it won't take that long with Google, else they will own all of us.

What is almost as amazing is that people trust them to store emails of every kind, and they don't mind Google creeping around their computers.

Google is a company that abuses the privacy of countless millions, most of whom don't even realize they are under surveillance. Google is not a benevolent company. They are the new Microsoft, and in some ways even worse then that vile, worthless blood sucking company.
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In bed with China
by fabilitis03 June 13, 2007 10:15 PM PDT
Hey, they love this big brother thing. Have you seen its blocking management for google.cn? No surprise if they blocked this site?

My dad showed me his Google Earth after I read 1984 in my sophomore year. I saw my mom's van parked right in front of Kinko's, obviously a morning snapshot. Dad said, "If they give those technologies, imagine how much content they have to themselves, and others.

Why else would stocks jump 400 points? It's a search engine...Ad space is meager profit.
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Google
by Eskiegirl302 June 14, 2007 4:12 AM PDT
I think Google has some wonderful technology. I do like this new map thing but I do think they went a bit far with it.

This Street Map technology is great. They could scale down the picture part though as I do feel that is intrusive. And just because we think that Bush has intruded in our privacy, which his wiretapping and spying on americans does and is illegal, does not make it right for people to do it.

But if they took this map, and showed the streets in more detail, such as like the insets for cities on an atlas, and even put like the block numbers that would be really helpful. The names of businessnes, ect. But, I think they should leave out the cam part.

Being able to see what is in my backyard, when I have put up a privacy fence to keep prying eyes out of my business, which by the way cost money, is an intrusion of privacy.

A map is supposed to be used in order to find your way around. When you get to the destination, a then detailed map of the area is great.

Google should back off a bit. What people do, and where they go is no ones business but theirs. So I am giving Street Maps the thumbs down unless google changes things.

Esk
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idea for google
by gggg sssss June 14, 2007 6:24 PM PDT
get into voip phones - buy Skype then publish the conversation. No different.

Rember, I thought of it first and want my 20%
They caught a picture of me . . .
by K.P.C. June 14, 2007 7:41 AM PDT
. . . "Boinking" the bosses wife on a hotel balcony while he was out
of town?!!!

Have THEY no shame?

;-)
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Google=The most evil company on the planet
by Kwasiowusu June 14, 2007 9:29 AM PDT
Right now, when I look around, it's hard for me to find any company that is as right out evil and determined to continue to trample on everyone's rights rights and privacies (both people and companies) alike, like Google is/does.
Being of sound mind and determined to be in control of my own life, I have stopped using Google long ago. This ban naturally extends to every Google site that I know of, inlcuding Youtube.
I consider it my persona duty to educate everyone I know about the howreally dangerous Google really is to the well being of Americans, and get as many people to stop having anything whatsoever to do with Google as I can.
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Couldn't agree more - that is why I have switched to Anoox
by kathy_torez June 18, 2007 5:36 AM PDT
You have hit it right on the head.
If people do not wake up to the threat that Google & Yahoo pose to information & commerce on-line, by entering business after business, and by running a search engine where people have no real control of the search results, it will be too late soon.
That is why I have switched to this new search engine called Anoox which is powered by the knowledge of the people and is operated on a community based business model.
And I am evangelizing about it to all to do the same. I hope more and more people realize what you and me have realized.
re:Google=The most evil company on the planet
by supergopi July 10, 2007 3:35 AM PDT
dear sir,

u can stop using google services
unless they put a gun on ur forehead
to force u to use their services :p

or still better start a cute company
of urs ;)

thanks!
Google, Please Take My Picture
by open-mind June 14, 2007 9:42 AM PDT
I will stand in my front of my house with a big smile and wave. Please let me know when you are planning to drive though my neighborhood. Thank you!
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What if you weren't in front of your house?
by amelia jade June 15, 2007 12:29 AM PDT
What if you were in front of a specialist's office for a particular medical problem? Would you turn around and wave to the camera then? Think about it.
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Security concern
by patsbuys June 14, 2007 9:56 AM PDT
As a general user, I find it refreshing use these tools for finding my way in unfamiliar locations. My concern though is much greater than how Google will use the resulting information. I am concerned with how much information we are readily handing over to our enemies. Especially the religious fanatics who are bent on destroying us.
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"Don't be evil"*
by amanda hugnkiss June 14, 2007 10:50 AM PDT
*may actually contain evil
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evil is subjective
by Madrone June 17, 2007 9:42 PM PDT
I dont consider anything that googles done to be "evil" so as far as i'm concerned, they've kept true to their slogan.
GOOGLE IS FUTURE.........
by niravabhavsar June 14, 2007 8:59 PM PDT
Why make a lot of fuss about it? This is just a beginning. Live CCTV is next. And, may be in next 5-10 years google will scan your faces and will have complete behavioral pattern of yours. That way it will be able to serve you ads at every corner. Tailored to your own personality.
It is not a plot from the movie "Minority Report". It is inevitable future. Like it or not. You can run but can not hide.
hahahahaha
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Google is future ...? Maybe not!
by amelia jade June 15, 2007 12:32 AM PDT
Our future might not become as open as you say if we start saying "NO" right now!
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Are we all paranoid?
by jesmac418 June 15, 2007 7:20 AM PDT
Are we all really that paranoid? After all look how much of our
personal information is out there already.
If a Google can see you, imagine all the people going by in cars and
walking. If you are really concerned about privacy. Then put up
blinds!! Cancel your credit cards and use cash, even close your
bank account. Move into the mountains and become a hermit.
Otherwise, DEAL WITH IT people!!!
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It already exists!
by eurobloke June 16, 2007 1:14 AM PDT
// Live CCTV is next. And, may be in next 5-10 years google will scan your faces and will have complete behavioral pattern of yours. That way it will be able to serve you ads at every corner. Tailored to your own personality. //

Er, that already exists, London Metropolitan Police have CCTV cameras that can recognises people's faces and can even detect behaviour pattens. Westminster City Council have microphones attached to CCTV cameras that can detect speech & some northern cities have cameras with speakers to ?prevent anti-social behaviour?.

I wonder if France will have GoogleStreetMap, as in France, everyone has the right to private life as stated under article 9 of the French Civil Code, so photographing someone without permission is illegal.
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London CCTV
by niravabhavsar June 16, 2007 4:16 PM PDT
Good to know that it already exists in London. There are upsides and downsides of law enforcement doing it. It is different when it comes to companies doing it that would blow aways everyone's privacy. however, london cctv thing is still not being monetized by companies to serve personalized ads. It may already be in works in googleplex to monetize it. Is it good or bad? It is upto people to decide. But, it is inevitable. If not google than may be some other company. But in its present form; it seems a little over the line. But, that is something "perfectly legal" so, it won't go away.
An extension of the human eye - that's all
by dunnsanfrancisco June 16, 2007 8:42 AM PDT
I am 60 years old - an antique to be sure. Being a part of the ancient world gives me a unique perspective on life today. I earned my grad degree in the days when all that was available to me for research and study were books. Can you imagine! No Internet!

In those days if we didn't want anybody to see us naked or smoking pot or picking our noses, we simply didn't do so anyplace where we could be seen. Simple.

The same applies today. Video cameras, cell cameras, security cameras and satellites are all extensions of the human eye. The rules have not changed, silly people, the technology has changed.

If you don't want to be seen doing whatever you are doing that is not quite right, then do your dirty deeds indoors.

As for me, well, I'm a ham and I love a spotlight.

"I'm ready for my closeup, Mr. DeMille"
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No consent? Sue
by ithinktfiam June 16, 2007 11:31 PM PDT
Generic crowd shots don't need consent from people in the pictures. However, when a photographer takes a picture of a specific person with intent, a consent form is usually required. Google is putting pictures of individuals on its site without verifying consent of the people.

Isn't there a privacy lawyer somewhere who can give specifics on the chance of a large lawsuit anyone can sign onto?
wear a mask or a hoodie
by frompittsburgh June 16, 2007 6:25 PM PDT
Really, if you must go out in public and don't want to be identified, wear a mask or disguise.
A mask of the American flag would be perfect since our loyalty couldn't be questioned. If you are going to a strip club, then wear a George Bush or Dick Chaney mask. Or, take pictures of public and corporate officials, they won't mind.
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There is an answer: it is this lil search engine called Anoox
by kathy_torez June 16, 2007 8:22 PM PDT
There is an answer to all these invasion of privacy by Google or Yahoo, it is this little search engine called AnooX. 1st, they are only in the search engine business and not into 100s of different businesses as Google or Yahoo are.
2nd, Anoox search results are fundamentally better and more accurate because AnooX is powered by knowledge of the people, that is YOU and me.
More info about this is here:
http://www.anoox.com/voting_overview.jsp

And there are other reasons I have switched to Anoox and am urging all to do same, it has
mainly to do with the fact that AnooX is a Community based (not-for-profit) business.
So whereas Google or Yahoo are run to maximize profits & share prices, which means control the "eye balls" of people world wide, Anoox is run without any concerns to profits or share prices, it is run for the benefit of community members which means YOU and me.
http://www.anoox.com/adp_overwiev.jsp

One implication of this fact is that the cost of Advertising on Anoox is much lower. In fact most months we make more as an Anoox affiliate than we pay for Advertising on Anoox. To say Anoox is way cool, is putting it mildly :)

Also Anoox is run based on an Open Source model, where no ONE company controls it but many companies from around the world do. So if you are not brain washed by the hype about Google & Yahoo, if you think for yourself, then use the search engine that is "Powered by the Knowledge of the People", use Anoox.
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New name, same lies
by Siegfried Schtauffen June 16, 2007 11:18 PM PDT
1. Anoox sux. It is slow and its results are horrid. You know this, it has been proven in the past. You tell me a search query that provides results half as good as one of the big three and I will check it out. Until then I will continue to belive that Anoox sux. For a laugh did a search for Apollo; nothing legendary, nothing to do with space, not even anything to do with Adobe. Just loads of 2-bit businesses that believe your lies.

2. Anoox is not open source. You need to pay to see the code. What part of open source don't you understand?

3. You don't exist. Prove me wrong. Why can't you just pay to advertise, eh Dean?
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I love anoox 2 :)
by Sandra_Kerns June 17, 2007 10:01 PM PDT
I have been using anoox for a year now and I love it. I specially love the fact that its search results are powered by the people rather
than by the machines mysteriously as is the case with the big 3 search engines. I really think it is the most revolutionary thing that has happened to the search engine industry and that it will punch a giant hole in the Google & Yahoo
trying to control information world wide.

This does not mean Anoox cannot improve in certain areas, such as speed of their search results. It should be faster.
And what is with that name! What the hek does Anoox mean?
But all and all it is the best new search engine I have seen, and one that delivers quantum leap in value to search users and advertisers.

P.S., In order of honesty I should state that I am an Anoox Affiliate. And that we love it. Specially through the super Affiliate program we are making close to $10,000 per month. So yes I have a reason to be talk up Anoox. But hey anyone can become an Anoox affiliate.
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Just Publish Pictures of Schmidt's Kids and Girlfriend
by kinowerken June 16, 2007 9:51 PM PDT
Simple as that. Then ask if there is a privacy issue.
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ebay---Google
by moebsghost June 17, 2007 6:02 AM PDT
Actually it's ebay that creeps me out... takes my money and doesn't
protect me from fraud, theft and various scams


shame on them
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When Someone Chirps 'Don't be Evil!' . . . .
by Sumatra-Bosch June 17, 2007 8:42 PM PDT
You know you are dealing with someone from the Mansons.

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