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What Happend To The Email Icon?
by geekpro October 24, 2006 4:04 PM PDT
With the default skin and/or using Noia 3.30 they've lost the "check email" icon in the tool bar, where did it go?
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Email icon
by KsprayDad October 24, 2006 7:14 PM PDT
It didn't work for MANY people and has been removed by Mozilla.

You can see the notes on that here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=1104280#1104280

If you wish to have one you can use this extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3591/
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What about the memory leakage?
by Johnny Huh October 24, 2006 5:10 PM PDT
One of the main problems I find with FireFox is that it starts to suck up an inordinate amount of memory if its not shut down each day. Any word on whether 2.0 addresses that problem?
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Re: What about the memory leakage?
by praetorian909 October 24, 2006 6:27 PM PDT
Yes, this was one of the specific things they said they've fixed. I haven't run across that problem so far while using Firefox 2 (and the betas) so it seems to be no more (yay!)
couldn't handle an .asx file
by cary1 October 24, 2006 11:36 PM PDT
i clicked on a link to an asx file. normally it should open the file in Windows Media player, but FF just showed the text in the file and didn't transfer the URL to WMP
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Have you reviewed FF Standard Diagnostic steps?
by KsprayDad October 24, 2006 11:54 PM PDT
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_%28Firefox%29
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Interfacing with Windows Media Player...
by umbrae October 25, 2006 8:44 AM PDT
Windows Media Player files and interaction has always been an issue in Firefox. This is because Windows Media Player's interactions with Website is dangerous, or at least concerning. Usually this is only with embedded players though (where the player is locked in the website). You should be able to get it to launch in a new window or download for viewing (if not a streaming file).

However, FF does rely on the proper MIMETYPE for the file. A lot of times, the webserver will give out the wrong MIMETYPE for streaming media files. This is usually the top reason for FF to not pass the object to the right application.
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Firefox Myths
by OptimizeGuides October 25, 2006 1:10 AM PDT
How many new Myths does this version introduce?

www.FirefoxMyths.com
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get over it
by adasha76 October 25, 2006 1:19 AM PDT
Seriously. I don't know what got into the author of that page but it's clear he has a chip on his shoulder
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Truth
by umbrae October 25, 2006 8:35 AM PDT
First off, FirefoxMyths.com has some good information in it. However, of the "Myths" that are represented most are not from Mozilla or any official source. They are assumptions and misinformation of general users. Every product that has a following has this type of stuff.

What I don't like is the tongue in cheek attitude of the site. It is very biased and represents the data in a biased manner. Source material provide can also be viewed as biased and opinionated as well.

I would say Firefox users have nothing to fear of this site. There is information on some Myths that should be understood by Firefox users. However, if you are going to take the time to blow all the Firefox Myths, you should target all those related to IE, Opera, etc as well. I find it funny they show Firefox's failed attempt at the Acid2 test along with Opera's successful one; however, do not even show IE6's or IE7's attempt on the same time. Why? Load IE and go find out... http://www.webstandards.org/action/acid2/ :)

In the end, Firefox is a very secure and stable browser, and far superior to IE.
www.FirefoxMyths.com is full of lies
by Microsoft_Facts October 25, 2006 6:15 AM PDT
We're not talking about "stretching the truth" like Microsoft usually does, some of these so-called facts are all out wrong. So much so I see the site as a bunch of lies.
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Name a specific lie
by aabcdefghij987654321 October 25, 2006 7:23 AM PDT
Or be known as a liar yourself.
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You Expected a MS Astroturfing Site to Be Full of Truthines?
by Sumatra-Bosch October 25, 2006 2:27 PM PDT
What's really twisted is that some glom at Microsoft is arguing with his boss about what putting this site up will do for his review and his score card.
I doubt that... but not 100% truth either
by Seaspray0 October 25, 2006 3:33 PM PDT
Is his information correct? It looks like it has been backed up well. An objective representation of all the facts? It seems not. It does state firefox failed the acid test, but makes no mention that IE also failed this test. If I was trying to make an objective comparison between the two browsers, I would want accurate and objective information from all sides and not just "vote for me because my opponent sux" attitude.
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Browsers
by thedreaming October 25, 2006 8:55 AM PDT
When it comes to browsers, it's about choice. If I wanted a super fast browser, I would use Opera. It's very fast and it's now free.

If I want a browser that is flexible, uses themes and extensions, I would use Firefox.

If I want to just quickly show someone a webpage, I use IE.

When I'm on a mac, I use Safari.

It really doesn't matter which browser you use, they all connect to the same internet and if you're happy with the performance of your browser, why switch? Keep your browser and enjoy.
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Agree in general but
by KsprayDad October 25, 2006 9:50 AM PDT
I agree with you in general but ease of use also includes freedom/lessening of viral threats. There are CLEAR choices if this is included in the 'ease of use' equation.
Firefox 2.0 Rocks!!!
by bw94382 October 25, 2006 1:48 PM PDT
The good people at Mozilla have nailed it IMO.
- Firefox 2.0 feels faster than 1.5 and is noticeably faster than IE 6.
- Firefox 1.5 had some holes in its pop-up blocking which have been fixed in 2.0.
- Image blocking worked like a charm in Firefox 1.5 and works even better in 2.0.
- The upgrade process was quick and seamless (as expected).
- It's very nice to see the developers focusing on performance, privacy and security. As a user that's exactly what I want. <rant>What kind of lunatic thinks it's a good idea to integrate a web browser into the OS? That's an approach that's practically guaranteed to lead to security issues. And I want to keep the Internet in my browser, I do not want it spilling over into my desktop environment.</rant>
- And hey! There's a built-in spell checker in Firefox 2.0 text fields. Note my typo-free post.
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IE 7 has spelllcheck too
by ralfthedog October 25, 2006 5:50 PM PDT
Firefox is not the onlly broweser that has a spell check IE 7 has one too. I like it beter.
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Switched From Firefox to IE7
by john55440 October 25, 2006 1:54 PM PDT
I used to use Firefox, but I like IE7 a lot better.

Compared to IE7, Firefox 2.0 has a clunky, old fashioned, interface.

Lots of other reasons too...
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Firefox to IE7
by slaha11 October 29, 2006 2:22 AM PST
I never liked the stupid unintuitive interface of Firefox, but I used it for last 6 months, because I liked the tabbed browsing feature.

Now after IE7 is here, I am back to IE again, and I love the total look & feel of it.

Even after applying themes, Firefox looked ugly, as if from previous generation.
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Probably Not A Good Example
by DarkPhoenixFF4 October 26, 2006 1:22 PM PDT
You know, your claims of Firefox being a "broken browser" might be more credible if you weren't suggest INTERNET EXPLORER of all things as a solution. Despite a new update, IE is still the worst browser on the market today, and is still limiting the web (and MS refusing to release updates for earlier Windows versions means web designers will be dealing with the horribly broken IE6 for at least the next few years).
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Odd
by Andrew J Glina October 26, 2006 6:24 PM PDT
Most of the new features, like session memory, close button on tabs, undo close tab, Opera has had for some time. I gave up on Firefox because it was so unstable, and these "new" features hardly motivate me to try it again.
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CNET biased against (fill in your preferred product)
by Vegaman_Dan October 27, 2006 8:06 AM PDT
After reading CNET review and rip apart IE7, calling it one of the worst secured products ever and that everyone should use Firefox for all web browsing, it's curious that they weren't that positive about this release either.

I'm not sure who CNET is supposedly biased against when they seem to believe all the new generation of browsers have serious issues and they aren't all that pleased by any of them.

I used to think that CNET was MS biased, but Apple is one of their largest advertiser (just check out all those Mac video ads), so I'm not sure on that count.

Is it possible they are actually trying to be indifferent and unbiased instead? Treating everyone the same way?

Curious.
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hmmmm
by wysiwyg22 October 27, 2006 9:49 AM PDT
Many of his facts are in error.
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Firefox Brain Game 1.0
by untethered October 28, 2006 4:06 PM PDT
Do you think faster with Firefox? Well, you browse faster. Find out with this game:
http://cognitivelabs.com/firefox_promo_game.htm
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Firefox Brain Game 1.0
by untethered October 28, 2006 4:07 PM PDT
Do you think faster with Firefox? Well, you browse faster. Find out with this game:
http://cognitivelabs.com/firefox_promo_game.htm
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Its Time, Dr Schmidt
by Sumatra-Bosch October 28, 2006 6:32 PM PDT
Make FF the default browser for Google.

Break the searches that come in on IE.

Direct users to download Firefox and instruct them that searches through IE will no longer be supported.

Do it, Dr Schmidt, do it now!

Hand magilla his Dresden and light your first cigar of the morning on an empire in flames.
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