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Showing it's interest in enabling people to handle office tasks over the Net, Google buys Upstartle, maker of Writely.
Showing it's interest in enabling people to handle office tasks over the Net, Google buys Upstartle, maker of Writely.
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And we thought Microsoft was going to take over the world....
It seems that they just keep producing one product after another. And they offer them all for free. It's almost as though they do it just because they can. That's a good way to develop a customer base is to offer them free things and keep them coming back. Humans are creatures of habit.
Hopefully they don't one day decide to start charging for everything. Although that would be really smart of them to do after they've developed products that everyone wants. But I don't think that's their style.
compete for our ad dollars.
(before they became a Monopoly), what did they say was the
reason people chose their product??
They always say the samething when confronted with
competition: "we have a "gazillion" users of our software". They
never say they have a better product or other difference. Is size
the ONLY reason buyers should ignore a competitive product??
Compatibility can be acheived through Standard formats
therefore it is not necessary to by the "safe", "most used"
product in terms of volume.
Microsoft always says that we should ignore the competition
because they (MS) have "millions of users". They say this every
time they face competition. It's a compatibility argument, and
threat.
I say, remember what your mother told you: "If your friend
jumped off a bridge, would you too?"
"The last thing we want to do is compete with Microsoft head-to-head," Carpenter said in February.
Microsoft noted that more than 400 million people use its Office product.
"Microsoft Office is the clear leader in what has always been a very competitive space," Microsoft senior marketing manager Erik Ryan said in a statement. "We welcome competition in the marketplace and believe it is healthy for the industry as a whole and good for customers." The question is, what has taken this long for this; and, perhaps other companies to be only now considering "creating a hosted spreadsheet to complement its online word processor"... Has anyone remembered L_O_T_U_S - "K_O_N_A"! :-(
"Lotus brews potent Java with Kona":
See link:
http://www.morochove.com/watch/cw/ff70206.htm
Taking marketsahre away from MS in the Office space is no small taks - OpenOffice is gradually doing it and with OpenDocuments standard being pushed and with consumers finally catching onto the concept of online services (remember MS was ignoring online and so corporates didn't see it as viable - MS can't ignore it anymore ie. MSlive - and as such consumers are starting to move toward it) its much more a of a goer now.
Microsoft has never welcomed competition in relity, but they don't have much choice now so they do what they always do: embrace, emasculate and then extinguish. However they don't have the upper hand here, even though they own the Office space, they don't own the Internet mind share and in fact run a distant third so they are up against a real problem - especially when you consider that Google has a habit of doing what MS did to gain market share - giving the product away.
Also, the speed of the net has increased for most users and java is ubiquitous now (even EEE strategy noted above) so this concept is not only doable but being demanded now.
I tried out the MS Live search engine, and must admit the new features are sleek. Still, it wouldn't take google much to replicate this capability. What makes google the "king" of search engines are their search algorithms and ability to find relevant info for you. MS has been poor in this category ever since search beame hot. I took your example, "flowers" and switched to images on both...the results were pretty much the same. Then, I narrowed my search to "Gennifer Flowers" and Google easily started showing its superiority with 7 pages of results. MS actually choked on one of the searches. You also cannot easily jump to deeper pages in MS Live to get past all the "flower" ads. It forces you to scroll through the results, unlike Google. Sometimes simpler is better. Then, speaking of scandalous personas, I changed to "Jessica Hahn Playboy" and Google came back with 2 images. MS Live?...ZERO.
In all of these markets MS has attempted or is attempting to take away the market, and has failed. Yes they may be a contender in some of them like with the XBox but to say that these companies are running scared is juvenile. Even Sony's going to (again) kick their butt with the PS3.
Google share of the search market remains fairly constant, but it share in everything else continues to grow - and that's all based in a free enterprise market not a monopoly.
- Unoriginal? No innovation?
- by March 10, 2006 10:45 AM PST
- Funny...when MS buys a company all the ABM'ers go on tirades about how the company never 'innovates'. But really, other than a search engine (which was not the first) and a good self-serve ad interface, what has google created itself? Seems to me they just have tons of money laying around from their IPO so now they're shopping like they have daddy's credit card.
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- And your point?
- by gpenglase March 10, 2006 7:44 PM PST
- MS has innovated - once they were given the opportunity by IBM they showed the world how a pirate can become the dominate player in any market. They stole, coerced, lied, bullied their way to the top and we have their "innovation" in the art of piracy to thank for the relative lack of progress in the PC industry. - I menan, it's 50+ years on from the first commerical computers, and almost 30 years on from Apple launching the PC revolution, and we still don't have a world where the average person feels comfortable with buying/installing/maintaining a computer.
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- And MS has all this money laying around...
- by Earl Benser March 11, 2006 4:59 AM PST
- .... after paying fines and buying off plaintiffs, and they AREN'T
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(20 Comments)Look at what has been achieved in health in the last 50 years and it boggles the mind.
Another examples: after inventing the electric motor it only took 30 years for the electric motor to be integrated seemlessly into products of all types - admittedly computers are signficantly more complex, but our world doubles its info every 14 years or less now and we have MS to thank for bloated, unreliable, poorly designed, complex systems which don't actually do a great job at anything. Macs are significantly superior to this end, but Apple stuffed around for about a decade when they saw their marketshare eroded.
MS first and only objective was expansion of their marketshare at all costs, and then the protection of that marketshare - they have never been focused on producing a better product for the sake of being the best - their goal was and still is to be the biggest. That is why innovation comes so rarely from MS, even after they bought every company they could lay their hands on.
Google came up with a better desktop search than MS (on MS's own OS too!) so I'd call that inovation. And their mapping is innovative, and ... anyway you get the point. You know, if Google never does another innovative thing, it still has one up non MS with the best search technology which they didn't buy or steal.
Of course they're spending up big, it worked for MS it can work for Google. But the difference is that they focus on being the best at what they do, and getting better even when they're the best and that is a remarkedly different approach - driven largely by the fact that they thad to take their marketshare through innovation not by being handed a golden spoon monopoly by IBM as MS was (twice).
shopping like they have daddy's credit card? And MS didn't have
the first word processor, and it's self-serve OS design is obvious
to all.
The OS is not bad, once they get the bugs worked out (where
they can), except if your software idea just was innovated into
that OS.
Everyone adapts, everyone 'borrows'. ideas do occur
simultaneously, and what counts in the end is whether or not the
OS and software does what the user wants. And that depends
on what the user expects.
Expectations can vary.