Comments on: MashupCamp--a new kind of get-together

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[Len Bullard]

Until Money Happens

People in general are good. Until money happens. Again, the software industry is mimicing the music industry. Once there are real offers in terms of large dollars, baser instincts override the forebrain and seize the speech centers.

Don't believe it? While there are numerous examples, the most current is the RSS shootouts over who controls the evolution of the specification.

Helping others is a healthy activity, but until you know yourself well enough to know what you really want, knowing what you want for others is hard to do. We are far too gifed at hiding from ourselves what is so transparent to others. So one has to be determined and steely about this: be sure what you want for yourself because
unless you are, you will never be sure what you want for others.

In a technical list extolling the virtues of technologists or technologies, most will consider this philosophy, but it is the best business advice I can give.

[ChrisHeuer]

Until egos happen...

The real problem, as we were discussing at the SuperNova Pre Pre Party last week, is the ability of people to get along with one another and collaborate effectively. This is the ultimate aspect of creating value in the knowledge economy. It is why startup teams are usually a bunch of engineers who used to work together, and why they seldom bring in the other team members who understand real people and the needs of real people. Or, as Robert Scoble calls them, the 'contextualizers'.

Even within the engineering tribe, and particularly among the standards groups, I see a wave of egomania preventing us from achieveing true progress. It has to be this way or that, with most people never bothering to resolve their different perspecctives to get at what works best. Don't get me wrong here, the competition of ideas is still good, but how many brands do we need touing slight variants on the same functionality, with few brave enough to tackle the real solutions that are needed?

So yes, when money gets involved, things start to change - but ego is already involved and that has changed things quite a bit already.

[Len Bullard]

True Statement

True statement, Chris, and the same for bands. Put enough talent in a band and you get the same ego issues. Put well-recognized talent in the band and it happens faster. Money is a little different. It isn't just an accelerant; it acts like LSD in the punch. The behaviors become bizarre fast because with the talent and the recognition come the insecurities, a squirmy form of fear, and as Herbert wrote, "Fear is the mindkiller."

The web generation also suffers the backwash of being Reagan's Kids: greed is good; we are the chosen ones, and the whole rotting mess of self-absorbtion.

Did ya really think Mosaic was a 'good' browser or just a 'free browser'? Did ya really think that any of its predecessors were just 'experiments leading to the main event'? That is the next problem: no true history, just myths and self-promoted legends, therefore, no learning curve and experience to discipline the members.

What you will see is that as more of these folks experience the dry mouth of failure, some will begin to examine their own motives for actions and learn how to handle success and failure. These people will go on to found great companies and do good things for others with technology. So an old lesson from Hindu philosophy: know your reason for giving a gift because if you don't, it fast becomes rotten as dead flesh.

It isn't news; it is good advice.

[itispals]

Informal yet useful

It is definitely a good move. The results would probably start showing once some of the Mashed up Products evolve and take the market by storm.
In the article i read that there was an idea to mash up dating site with astrology site information, but already in India i feel some of the matrimonial sites offer this kind of service. I would be glad if these kind of Camps are held in different parts of the globe. I would also be glad to organize it in India.
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