Comments on: Yahoo IM users get more than they bargained for

The "highly recommended" update to the free instant-messaging program also alters users' home page and auto-search function.

irritating

That toolbar and other programs seem to be conflicting with what I already had on my computer.

irritating

That toolbar and other programs seem to be conflicting with what I already had on my computer.

irritating

That toolbar and other programs seem to be conflicting with what I already had on my computer.

irritating

That toolbar and other programs seem to be conflicting with what I already had on my computer.

[Stating]

Beta Was Disappointing, Is This The Same?

I've been running the YM Beta for a while, I suppose this new release is that one. My complaints:

1) Add-ins like spyware scanner didn't work. I went nuts uninstalling and reinstalling, upgrading Java, etc. Finally I just uninstalled the Yahoo add-ins and only kept Messenger.

2) Messenger uses Net2Phone for VoIP. Voice quality wasn't as good as Skype and costs more. Most annoying though was an incomplete branding implementation. If you have both a regular Net2phone account and YM Net2phone they don't recognize each other -- they are stovepiped. And you can't change the PIN that YM/Phone assigns you at reg time. If you change the PIN the service breaks.

3) YM Beta couldn't not talk to other YM users on a different release, at least on the Mac platform.

Given all these hassles, I am hesitant to upgrade to the new YM.

[Stating]

Beta Was Disappointing, Is This The Same?

I've been running the YM Beta for a while, I suppose this new release is that one. My complaints:

1) Add-ins like spyware scanner didn't work. I went nuts uninstalling and reinstalling, upgrading Java, etc. Finally I just uninstalled the Yahoo add-ins and only kept Messenger.

2) Messenger uses Net2Phone for VoIP. Voice quality wasn't as good as Skype and costs more. Most annoying though was an incomplete branding implementation. If you have both a regular Net2phone account and YM Net2phone they don't recognize each other -- they are stovepiped. And you can't change the PIN that YM/Phone assigns you at reg time. If you change the PIN the service breaks.

3) YM Beta couldn't not talk to other YM users on a different release, at least on the Mac platform.

Given all these hassles, I am hesitant to upgrade to the new YM.

[Stating]

Beta Was Disappointing, Is This The Same?

I've been running the YM Beta for a while, I suppose this new release is that one. My complaints:

1) Add-ins like spyware scanner didn't work. I went nuts uninstalling and reinstalling, upgrading Java, etc. Finally I just uninstalled the Yahoo add-ins and only kept Messenger.

2) Messenger uses Net2Phone for VoIP. Voice quality wasn't as good as Skype and costs more. Most annoying though was an incomplete branding implementation. If you have both a regular Net2phone account and YM Net2phone they don't recognize each other -- they are stovepiped. And you can't change the PIN that YM/Phone assigns you at reg time. If you change the PIN the service breaks.

3) YM Beta couldn't not talk to other YM users on a different release, at least on the Mac platform.

Given all these hassles, I am hesitant to upgrade to the new YM.

[Stating]

Beta Was Disappointing, Is This The Same?

I've been running the YM Beta for a while, I suppose this new release is that one. My complaints:

1) Add-ins like spyware scanner didn't work. I went nuts uninstalling and reinstalling, upgrading Java, etc. Finally I just uninstalled the Yahoo add-ins and only kept Messenger.

2) Messenger uses Net2Phone for VoIP. Voice quality wasn't as good as Skype and costs more. Most annoying though was an incomplete branding implementation. If you have both a regular Net2phone account and YM Net2phone they don't recognize each other -- they are stovepiped. And you can't change the PIN that YM/Phone assigns you at reg time. If you change the PIN the service breaks.

3) YM Beta couldn't not talk to other YM users on a different release, at least on the Mac platform.

Given all these hassles, I am hesitant to upgrade to the new YM.

[patskoo]

I've found out the hardway.

Yes, I agree with this article. I yahoo search bar install on both my Firefox and Internet Explorer. For firefox, yahoo search bar can be removed easily by using add/removo extension to uninstall it. For Internet explorer is really a pain in the ass. Yahoo search bar won't go away when you use Add/Remove Program in Control Panel, You can't use Microsoft Anti Spyware to blocked it from launchig or uninstalling it. The only option left for me to do is to delete C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\companions folder and use Spybot to remove registry. I would consider yahoo companion for Internet Explorer that come with this new yahoo messenger with VOIP as a spyware because of the fact that it's so difficult to remove.

Pat

[patskoo]

I've found out the hardway.

Yes, I agree with this article. I yahoo search bar install on both my Firefox and Internet Explorer. For firefox, yahoo search bar can be removed easily by using add/removo extension to uninstall it. For Internet explorer is really a pain in the ass. Yahoo search bar won't go away when you use Add/Remove Program in Control Panel, You can't use Microsoft Anti Spyware to blocked it from launchig or uninstalling it. The only option left for me to do is to delete C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\companions folder and use Spybot to remove registry. I would consider yahoo companion for Internet Explorer that come with this new yahoo messenger with VOIP as a spyware because of the fact that it's so difficult to remove.

Pat

[patskoo]

I've found out the hardway.

Yes, I agree with this article. I yahoo search bar install on both my Firefox and Internet Explorer. For firefox, yahoo search bar can be removed easily by using add/removo extension to uninstall it. For Internet explorer is really a pain in the ass. Yahoo search bar won't go away when you use Add/Remove Program in Control Panel, You can't use Microsoft Anti Spyware to blocked it from launchig or uninstalling it. The only option left for me to do is to delete C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\companions folder and use Spybot to remove registry. I would consider yahoo companion for Internet Explorer that come with this new yahoo messenger with VOIP as a spyware because of the fact that it's so difficult to remove.

Pat

[patskoo]

I've found out the hardway.

Yes, I agree with this article. I yahoo search bar install on both my Firefox and Internet Explorer. For firefox, yahoo search bar can be removed easily by using add/removo extension to uninstall it. For Internet explorer is really a pain in the ass. Yahoo search bar won't go away when you use Add/Remove Program in Control Panel, You can't use Microsoft Anti Spyware to blocked it from launchig or uninstalling it. The only option left for me to do is to delete C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\companions folder and use Spybot to remove registry. I would consider yahoo companion for Internet Explorer that come with this new yahoo messenger with VOIP as a spyware because of the fact that it's so difficult to remove.

Pat

[Anon-Y-mous]

Google did the same thing this week--WITHOUT asking

Check your tool bars boys and girls. Notice anything different? Yep, "G" pushed on a new version of the toolbar and INCLUDED desktop search. You only need to click a button to enable it.

When was I asked if they could push non-secure code for a product I DONT want onto my machine? NEVER. Only thing that caught (part) of it was SpyBot that complained some registry settings were being changed.

If any other company other than G or Y did this, there would be a firestorm. There better be one out of this this week.

TOTALLY UNACCEPABLE -- BOTH have been UNINSTALLED.

[hadaso]

Did Google erase your data?

Did Google erase your data?

No they didn't.
Yahoo did erase people's settings without warning them sufficiently!

[Christopher Hall]

Actually, it didn't install

All the Google Toolbar did was add a link that gave you the option to install it on your computer. I know this because when I clicked the button out of curiosity (I push a lot of buttons I probably shouldn't), it brought me to the download site. I downloaded the installer, then tried to install Desktop, but it wouldn't let me because I don't have admin rights on this computer.

No big deal. With all due respect, I think you're overreacting a bit.

[Anon-Y-mous]

Google did the same thing this week--WITHOUT asking

Check your tool bars boys and girls. Notice anything different? Yep, "G" pushed on a new version of the toolbar and INCLUDED desktop search. You only need to click a button to enable it.

When was I asked if they could push non-secure code for a product I DONT want onto my machine? NEVER. Only thing that caught (part) of it was SpyBot that complained some registry settings were being changed.

If any other company other than G or Y did this, there would be a firestorm. There better be one out of this this week.

TOTALLY UNACCEPABLE -- BOTH have been UNINSTALLED.

[hadaso]

Did Google erase your data?

Did Google erase your data?

No they didn't.
Yahoo did erase people's settings without warning them sufficiently!

[Christopher Hall]

Actually, it didn't install

All the Google Toolbar did was add a link that gave you the option to install it on your computer. I know this because when I clicked the button out of curiosity (I push a lot of buttons I probably shouldn't), it brought me to the download site. I downloaded the installer, then tried to install Desktop, but it wouldn't let me because I don't have admin rights on this computer.

No big deal. With all due respect, I think you're overreacting a bit.

[Anon-Y-mous]

Google did the same thing this week--WITHOUT asking

Check your tool bars boys and girls. Notice anything different? Yep, "G" pushed on a new version of the toolbar and INCLUDED desktop search. You only need to click a button to enable it.

When was I asked if they could push non-secure code for a product I DONT want onto my machine? NEVER. Only thing that caught (part) of it was SpyBot that complained some registry settings were being changed.

If any other company other than G or Y did this, there would be a firestorm. There better be one out of this this week.

TOTALLY UNACCEPABLE -- BOTH have been UNINSTALLED.

[hadaso]

Did Google erase your data?

Did Google erase your data?

No they didn't.
Yahoo did erase people's settings without warning them sufficiently!

[Christopher Hall]

Actually, it didn't install

All the Google Toolbar did was add a link that gave you the option to install it on your computer. I know this because when I clicked the button out of curiosity (I push a lot of buttons I probably shouldn't), it brought me to the download site. I downloaded the installer, then tried to install Desktop, but it wouldn't let me because I don't have admin rights on this computer.

No big deal. With all due respect, I think you're overreacting a bit.

[Anon-Y-mous]

Google did the same thing this week--WITHOUT asking

Check your tool bars boys and girls. Notice anything different? Yep, "G" pushed on a new version of the toolbar and INCLUDED desktop search. You only need to click a button to enable it.

When was I asked if they could push non-secure code for a product I DONT want onto my machine? NEVER. Only thing that caught (part) of it was SpyBot that complained some registry settings were being changed.

If any other company other than G or Y did this, there would be a firestorm. There better be one out of this this week.

TOTALLY UNACCEPABLE -- BOTH have been UNINSTALLED.

[hadaso]

Did Google erase your data?

Did Google erase your data?

No they didn't.
Yahoo did erase people's settings without warning them sufficiently!

[Christopher Hall]

Actually, it didn't install

All the Google Toolbar did was add a link that gave you the option to install it on your computer. I know this because when I clicked the button out of curiosity (I push a lot of buttons I probably shouldn't), it brought me to the download site. I downloaded the installer, then tried to install Desktop, but it wouldn't let me because I don't have admin rights on this computer.

No big deal. With all due respect, I think you're overreacting a bit.

[EENetminder]

What really annoys me...

...is that the message archive (which I use a lot) seems to hang up the application (program not responding). I can live with having to turn off features in the preferences, but having an important functionality that is dysfunctional is unacceptable.

I work with people in almost every time zone around the world, and we've been using YIM for at least five years. At this point, after two days, I'm ready to recommend that we switch to something else.

Anyone know where I can get my old YIM back?

[EENetminder]

What really annoys me...

...is that the message archive (which I use a lot) seems to hang up the application (program not responding). I can live with having to turn off features in the preferences, but having an important functionality that is dysfunctional is unacceptable.

I work with people in almost every time zone around the world, and we've been using YIM for at least five years. At this point, after two days, I'm ready to recommend that we switch to something else.

Anyone know where I can get my old YIM back?

[EENetminder]

What really annoys me...

...is that the message archive (which I use a lot) seems to hang up the application (program not responding). I can live with having to turn off features in the preferences, but having an important functionality that is dysfunctional is unacceptable.

I work with people in almost every time zone around the world, and we've been using YIM for at least five years. At this point, after two days, I'm ready to recommend that we switch to something else.

Anyone know where I can get my old YIM back?

[EENetminder]

What really annoys me...

...is that the message archive (which I use a lot) seems to hang up the application (program not responding). I can live with having to turn off features in the preferences, but having an important functionality that is dysfunctional is unacceptable.

I work with people in almost every time zone around the world, and we've been using YIM for at least five years. At this point, after two days, I'm ready to recommend that we switch to something else.

Anyone know where I can get my old YIM back?