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Search giant unveils Google Talk, an IM program that also allows voice chat. Plus: Cast your vote on Talk.
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[JLP]

You don't need GMail

You don't need GMail to use this. It is based on
open and free standard XMPP better known as
Jabber. So you can use any Jabber client you
want and you can use any Jabber server you want.
A list of some public ones is here:
http://www.jabber.org/network/
That's what is so nice about this. No one will
force you to use some client, no one will force
you to use some server and no one is going to
block connecting to server if they don't like
you client of choice. It is like e-mail. Use
whatever you like.

[Roman12]

40 million aol users?

Wow, thats a surprise... Here in Toronto, Canada I've never met anybody who uses AOL messenger... Everybody's got MSN... every single teen.

I'm going to stay with MSN for now because I a list of 146 contacts built up over the years.

[Filip Remplakowski]

I don't...

... see why you can't use IM which support a variety of formats,
there are a couple for the mac like Adium (my personal favourite)
and there must be quite a few of these programs available for
windows. It's great that google are using opensource jabber for
their IM.

[Roman12]

40 million aol users?

Wow, thats a surprise... Here in Toronto, Canada I've never met anybody who uses AOL messenger... Everybody's got MSN... every single teen.

I'm going to stay with MSN for now because I a list of 146 contacts built up over the years.

[Filip Remplakowski]

I don't...

... see why you can't use IM which support a variety of formats,
there are a couple for the mac like Adium (my personal favourite)
and there must be quite a few of these programs available for
windows. It's great that google are using opensource jabber for
their IM.

[Roman12]

40 million aol users?

Wow, thats a surprise... Here in Toronto, Canada I've never met anybody who uses AOL messenger... Everybody's got MSN... every single teen.

I'm going to stay with MSN for now because I a list of 146 contacts built up over the years.

[Filip Remplakowski]

I don't...

... see why you can't use IM which support a variety of formats,
there are a couple for the mac like Adium (my personal favourite)
and there must be quite a few of these programs available for
windows. It's great that google are using opensource jabber for
their IM.

[Jammer]

Bring back that pre-secondary google innovation?

I, along with lots of other, really was interested in seeing the bold move by Google in the IM space - heck, they did it in a staid space like email, of course they'd do the same in IM.

Unfortunately, what I saw with Google Talk was a really disappointing effort. Symptoms of mediocrity: 1. a proprietary, non-SIP based approach (heck, Skype lobbed you a softball on that one, and you whiffed with Jabber). 2. lack of good platform functionality - great, I have another least common denominator federation scheme (and you didn't really extend it to address its deficiencies). 3. Missing out on IM basics like file sharing, rich text, etc.. 4. no white pages - it was what allowed Skype to survive its spare namespace era. 5. really ignoring the initial create metaphor that Hello brought to sharing - how long have you owned the Picassa folk now?

I would have joined the masses a week ago in kneeling at the altar of Google innovation, but Sidebar and Google Talk have left me cold.

Shame on you for doing so little with such a great talent pool.

[Jammer]

Bring back that pre-secondary google innovation?

I, along with lots of other, really was interested in seeing the bold move by Google in the IM space - heck, they did it in a staid space like email, of course they'd do the same in IM.

Unfortunately, what I saw with Google Talk was a really disappointing effort. Symptoms of mediocrity: 1. a proprietary, non-SIP based approach (heck, Skype lobbed you a softball on that one, and you whiffed with Jabber). 2. lack of good platform functionality - great, I have another least common denominator federation scheme (and you didn't really extend it to address its deficiencies). 3. Missing out on IM basics like file sharing, rich text, etc.. 4. no white pages - it was what allowed Skype to survive its spare namespace era. 5. really ignoring the initial create metaphor that Hello brought to sharing - how long have you owned the Picassa folk now?

I would have joined the masses a week ago in kneeling at the altar of Google innovation, but Sidebar and Google Talk have left me cold.

Shame on you for doing so little with such a great talent pool.

[Jammer]

Bring back that pre-secondary google innovation?

I, along with lots of other, really was interested in seeing the bold move by Google in the IM space - heck, they did it in a staid space like email, of course they'd do the same in IM.

Unfortunately, what I saw with Google Talk was a really disappointing effort. Symptoms of mediocrity: 1. a proprietary, non-SIP based approach (heck, Skype lobbed you a softball on that one, and you whiffed with Jabber). 2. lack of good platform functionality - great, I have another least common denominator federation scheme (and you didn't really extend it to address its deficiencies). 3. Missing out on IM basics like file sharing, rich text, etc.. 4. no white pages - it was what allowed Skype to survive its spare namespace era. 5. really ignoring the initial create metaphor that Hello brought to sharing - how long have you owned the Picassa folk now?

I would have joined the masses a week ago in kneeling at the altar of Google innovation, but Sidebar and Google Talk have left me cold.

Shame on you for doing so little with such a great talent pool.

EULAS

the lack of EULAS is not what creates a Big Brother, it's the actual access to private behavioral information that does, no matter what you've signed

EULAS

the lack of EULAS is not what creates a Big Brother, it's the actual access to private behavioral information that does, no matter what you've signed

EULAS

the lack of EULAS is not what creates a Big Brother, it's the actual access to private behavioral information that does, no matter what you've signed

Talk without voice

Tested it and found that voice part didn't work.

Talk without voice

Tested it and found that voice part didn't work.

Talk without voice

Tested it and found that voice part didn't work.

[Sam Papelbon]

google innovation!

what new technology will google make next? chat rooms? my guess is an online auction site, how cool would THAT be? i'm glad google is full of original ideas unlike evil evil microsoft who just copies everyone else to stay in the market. i mean psh... msn virtual earth? google is the one that invented maps. everyone knows this.

[Dibbs]

dude you don't get it

no one is saying google invented something totally new. what has people so excited is that google takes an existing technology and makes it better. way better.




except for this google talk thing-it sucks.

[Sam Papelbon]

google innovation!

what new technology will google make next? chat rooms? my guess is an online auction site, how cool would THAT be? i'm glad google is full of original ideas unlike evil evil microsoft who just copies everyone else to stay in the market. i mean psh... msn virtual earth? google is the one that invented maps. everyone knows this.

[Dibbs]

dude you don't get it

no one is saying google invented something totally new. what has people so excited is that google takes an existing technology and makes it better. way better.




except for this google talk thing-it sucks.

[Sam Papelbon]

google innovation!

what new technology will google make next? chat rooms? my guess is an online auction site, how cool would THAT be? i'm glad google is full of original ideas unlike evil evil microsoft who just copies everyone else to stay in the market. i mean psh... msn virtual earth? google is the one that invented maps. everyone knows this.

[Dibbs]

dude you don't get it

no one is saying google invented something totally new. what has people so excited is that google takes an existing technology and makes it better. way better.




except for this google talk thing-it sucks.

[Inetsec]

Where's the "new stuff?"

Ok, so Google has entered the IM space - woohoo. My take at the moment is *YAWN*. Where is the innovation that Google is famous for?

Heck they don't even offer video from what I've seen. What about secure chat? Not that I've seen.

Google - - thanks for playing but you are about 7 years behind the curve on this one.

[Inetsec]

Where's the "new stuff?"

Ok, so Google has entered the IM space - woohoo. My take at the moment is *YAWN*. Where is the innovation that Google is famous for?

Heck they don't even offer video from what I've seen. What about secure chat? Not that I've seen.

Google - - thanks for playing but you are about 7 years behind the curve on this one.

[Inetsec]

Where's the "new stuff?"

Ok, so Google has entered the IM space - woohoo. My take at the moment is *YAWN*. Where is the innovation that Google is famous for?

Heck they don't even offer video from what I've seen. What about secure chat? Not that I've seen.

Google - - thanks for playing but you are about 7 years behind the curve on this one.