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Trying to broaden its appeal with developers, Macromedia plans tool based on popular open-source method.

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Wonderful!
by June 6, 2005 2:59 AM PDT
What is more: integration of "ColdFusion and Eclipse".
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Wrong titile!
by mxiong June 6, 2005 3:29 AM PDT
It should be "Adobe aligns with Eclipse".
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not so fast...
by June 6, 2005 6:58 AM PDT
The transaction is subject to regulatory and shareholder approval, and the companies don't expect it to close until the fourth quarter.
I no longer care what Macromedia does
by Harfeld Bilgewing June 6, 2005 8:58 AM PDT
I literally lost months of development time trying to use their half-baked forms implementation on a project. I would not choose Flash as a development platform. Use it for what it's meant for: ads, cartoons, ads, games, and ads.
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I have to admit...
by June 6, 2005 10:17 AM PDT
I have to admit I was a die hard fan of Maromedia. They produced good software, were open to small developers, offered pretty good support and even better support through their online forums and they offered good upgrades.

But, with Adobe I know most of that is gone. Adobe is the exact oposite of what Macromedia is. First thing that will go is the small developers of extensions won't be allowed to post new extension releases on the User to User' forum. Adobe has pretty much outlawed that practice on the ones they have. Next we will end up with poor and expensive paid support. The quality of the upgrades will drop, but the prices will stay the same, and worst of all they will re-work all of the Macromedia programs (the ones the deam worthy of keeping) so that they have an Adobe like interface. What this means is a bastardized interface like GoLive which is neither Adobe or what the original owners have done.

Macromedia products are about to get raped right along with their customers all because as it turns out the people running Macromedia are stupid and their shareholders are greedy and stupid. As for passing muster with the government, even though it will kill pretty much all competition for web design and Flash development products they will approve it because like the rest of them they are stupid and don't give a dam about the consumers they are supposed to be protecting.

I just hope some other company sees they gaping opening and comes out with something I can use besides the Adobe/Macromedia crap.

Robert
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I don't like Flash anymore
by JLP June 6, 2005 11:38 AM PDT
This is becase Macromedia has very bad support for Flash. Where is works properly is basicly only Windows and IE. But as soon as you move to some alternative browser or other platform support is no longer very good. A feature missing here and there and in some cases there is absolutely no support. For example where the heck is 64-bit Flash plugin for 64-bit Linux (waiting for over a year) and Windows x64. Becase of this I don't use Flash anymore. If they can't support more platforms which are getting very popular properly then they should make at least the plugin/player code open source so that people who know how to code can do it properly. So if they can't do it themselves or let other people do it, well goodbye Flash and other products from Macromedia.
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Macromedia joined the XML platforms battle - along with Avalon and Google
by acostin June 7, 2005 1:40 AM PDT
I've tried to dissecate the subject about the next battle of the Rich Internet Applications giants on my blog.

http://www.interaktonline.com/blogs/alexandru/index.php?view=article&id_art=62

Literally, if the Flash platform is not free, they will have hard time fighting Microsoft. But if they make it free, they will have to make this Eclipse plugin commercial to get some money out of it... So it's a catch-22 situation, as usually happens with platform builders: without platform omnipresence, there are no developers, to get platform omnipresence, you have to make it free.

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Platforms.html

Alexandru
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