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IM chief Chamath Palihapitiya explains how free e-mail fits into the company's plan to be your hub for staying in touch.

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"A free upgrade for 5.9 users?"
by Christopher Hall May 12, 2005 11:39 AM PDT
I'd hate to be the .9 of a user!
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More AOL crude.
by NWLB May 12, 2005 12:49 PM PDT
Just another example of too little, too late from AOL. People demand POP3, AOL foists IMAP off as a substitute. People want to use outlook, but that doesn?t make AOL money, so they give you lousy rip-offs of it. I don?t see any of this stopping any user defection.
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What?
by jegrant May 12, 2005 4:48 PM PDT
Okay, I don't see what is so wrong with IMAP. It is a more modern standard and well supported by most common email clients.

As far as "people [who] want to use Outlook", that is *why* AOL is offering IMAP with this service - so that it's easy to use both on the web and with separate standalone email clients, such as Outlook!
It's not just that...
by Prndll May 14, 2005 3:42 PM PDT
The defections are increasing because more and more people are realizing that AOL (and AIM) is not the digital center of the universe. More and more people are realizing the truth about the security holes and shotty software. More and more people are seeing that there is a better and safer way to be online.
How much memory?
by jaximflash May 12, 2005 12:56 PM PDT
I don't think the article said but does anyone know how much memorary you get withy AOL's free email service? 1G like Yahoo? 2G's like Google?
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Storage
by May 12, 2005 4:09 PM PDT
That's not memory. It's storage space.
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Here's how AOL comes to life
by May 12, 2005 4:06 PM PDT
"http://theponderingprimate.blogspot.com/2005/05/aol-doa-or-aok.html"
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The problem with AIM is...
by PCCRomeo May 12, 2005 6:24 PM PDT
That a lot of people think you need AOL to use it. Nearly all users of AIM have or had AOL. If AOL wants to make their stand alone messenger client more widely used, they need to be sure that people know it is free and you don't need AOL.
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lol...
by Prndll May 14, 2005 3:24 PM PDT
Your not wrong in what you said, but there is a bigger picture.

The biggest problem with AIM is the spyware/adware that is part of it. AOL has intigrated it into AIM, elements of AIM designed to spy on you, track you, and direct specific advertising to you. This is not to mention all the holes in AIM. Holes in the software that are well documented and are too numerous to list in this post.

The use of AIM is dangerous and should be avoided like the plague. It brings on some very serious security issues that allow your computer to be easily accessed, controlled, and watched. Not just by AOL, but by all manner of hackers aswell. AIM's hack list is out there if you check. It's holes do exist and represent a very real danger.
Really? It sounds better than GMAIL
by jaximflash May 13, 2005 8:09 AM PDT
2GB? and IMAP to boot? It may actually be better than GMAIL. Has anyone had any experience with it?
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ummm... not at all
by June 8, 2005 5:41 PM PDT
Gmail already has over 2 and a quarter gigs of storage and is growing constantly. It also has free pop access, which really is not much different than the IMAP that AOL is offering. Aside from that Gmail has free email forwarding, Gmail's revolutionary label organization system, Google search capabilities for your emails and most of all, it has unobtrusive targeted text ads, compared with the loud random ads that I'm sure AOL has just like in AIM.
Not Hardly...
by Earl Benser May 16, 2005 4:56 AM PDT
AIM might capture the 'newbies' and 'aol-ers'. But all the serious
internet users I know have long ago abandoned the garbage pile
called AOL. And AIM isn't even considered - too many other and
better options. Even ICQ has faded into the background. Try
Skype for a modern approach - it's IM and free phone calls too.

AOL has long lost it's luster as an internet service (if it ever had
one). This IM/Email push is strictly a marketing ploy to try to
stem the movement of customers away from AOL. Odds are that
in another 5 years, AOL will exist only in the history books.
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for AOL to succeed with this...
by czerwonka May 16, 2005 9:46 AM PDT
For AOL to succeed with this new strategy, two things are VERY important.

1. AOL needs to free up screen names or allow additional characters (. _ -) in them. People - especially adults - will not want to move to a new free e-mail/IM offering if they have to use coolgrll38566(@aim.com) as their identity. I'm sure the author of this article would rather have Stephanie.Olsen@aim.com or something like that, but the fact is that all reasonably simple screen names were taken long ago.

2. If AOL is sincere about moving away from the subscription model and wants to endear itself to consumers, they should allow existing/previous members to migrate their screen names to free AIM accounts. Currently AOL forces members to fork over a monthly fee just to retain their screen names for AIM/IM, even if they just desire to use AOL's advertising-supported services. When personal and professional contacts all have your current screen name, it's good to keep it...and with the new free e-mail many members would want to keep their currently used screen name. AOL should allow them to do so, or it will alienate many potential users.
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He who laughs last...
by June 9, 2005 5:35 AM PDT
There's a good chance that AOL has got a clue and is making the right moves lately as part of a growing trend to stop looking like dorks. This webmail thing looks like a great step in the right direction and I've had to eat my words too many times when companies have gotten their act in gear after some big falls (Apple 90's vs. iPod).
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re: He who laughs last
by rrohrich December 7, 2005 8:45 PM PST
I really samrt guy I used to work for once told me that being first to market wasn't as useful as being the best in the market. He was one of the few people who understood the BigPicture. ;)
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