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Comments on: Google speed bump draws scorn

Search giant raises privacy and security hackles with its application that accelerates Web surfing.

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the secure language "HTTPF"
by May 6, 2005 5:14 PM PDT
Is this supposed to mean the encryption protocol HTTPS?

How does Google get access to passworded discussion boards anyway?
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RE:
by SmokieUK May 6, 2005 6:02 PM PDT
Google lists password protected discussion sites because (as it was briefly stated in the article):

"[i]... the problem happens only on a small number of sites, typically discussion groups, because those sites are not passing the proper no-cache header information.[/i]"
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Author is confused about HTTPF and HTTPS
by aabcdefghij987654321 May 7, 2005 12:30 AM PDT
"Web Accelerator does not cache secure Web sites in the programming language "HTTPF" such as banking or credit card pages"

There is a fledging "HTTPF" filtering proxy (it's a web proxy which strips potentially executable code) and perhaps is what google are using.

And, yes, banking and credit card pages always use HTTPS.

I suspect the author knows little about either and has confused the two. I stopped reading about that point.
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Changing the Internet
by ron williams May 6, 2005 8:29 PM PDT
What are all forums supposed to change and insert the "no cache" header. Whats going to happen if my members install this. Google needs to not be Microsoft and downplay there errors and release software too early. View my forum at http://holycow.audionine.com
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What the F$%&k is [httpf]
by OneWithTech May 7, 2005 3:16 AM PDT
I'm going to shed a little somethin' on those who, maybe don't understand web code, let alone what exactly [httpf] is!

Here is [httpf] explained in detail:
http://httpf.sourceforge.net/
Here is another little snippet on [httpf]:

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[html] httpf A WWW Security Proxy (in C using POSIX threads) for filtering HTTP and HTML to only forward allowed/harmless content.
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In English this means JACK. It's not a protocal in the sence of "true web" protocols. This protocol is only used in the circumstances stated above. And 95% of the web-developers out there will tell you that: "They've Never Used It"!

So that leads me to answer the last question for everybody. Google is very good at quite a few technologies, but also very good with the PR.

You see the Circle C that denotes a copyright at the bottom of our web pages. This nomenclature is used to protect our "Finished Works". The USPTO (United States Patent and Trademark Office) ensures that complying with the rules set by them our "publications","pictures",and "overall copy" are protected under these rights.

What if Google is violating the Copy Protection of every site that it "Caches" on there servers? My programmer was a little pissed that a "Vanilla Envelope" with the tag link "Do Not Bend" shows up at my house address to him at Matrix Structures Online. Funny, American Express just did that to me not to long ago.

Apparently it's OK to start using that data you've been mining for the last couple of years. All that mining at my expence and the expense of everybody else that likes to keep there copy protected.

How convienent for Chase, American Express, and Google, to use "My Copy" for there profit!

Hence the PR runaround!

www.tech01.net
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A better httpf definition
by OneWithTech May 7, 2005 3:20 AM PDT
httpf is a kernel module to allow queueing of people for busy sites. When web site is overloaded with number of connections, new people are assigned a tracking number and accepted as their time has come...
httpf A filtering proxy which processes HTTP- and HTML-traffic to enhance the security: Remove javascript calls, check document types, remove client infos (operating system, browser version)

www.tech01.net
It's a typographical error
by dmehus May 7, 2005 9:20 AM PDT
Below is a copy I've sent to CNET News.com editors to alert them of the typographical error in the third paragraph of this story. To send your own reports of typos or factual inaccuracies, send e-mail to: report-news-bugs@cnet.com and a copy editor or the CNET News.com managing editor, Jon Skillings, will respond to your report.

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Dear CNET News.com Editors:

There appears to be a typographical error in the third paragraph of "Google speed bump draws scorn" located at http://news.com.com/Google+speed+bump+draws+scorn/2100-1032_3-5698447.html, where "HTTPF" should be corrected to read "HTTPS". Or, ideally, instead of mentioning the acronym, mention secure sockets layer transfer or something similar. However, simply updating it from "HTTPF" to "HTTPS" would more than suffice.

Cheers,
Doug M.
dmehus AT telus DOT net
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Another error
by May 7, 2005 9:41 AM PDT
Also, read the first sentence of this paragraph:

The complaints center on the search giant's Web Accelerator, which was released on Wednesday. Downloadable software for broadband users, Web Accelerator is intended to speed access to Web pages by serving up cached or compressed copies of sites from Google's servers.

It seems like there should be something after the "released on Wednesday" part.
Privacy advocates need to give it a rest
by rockerrb May 7, 2005 8:12 PM PDT
Google's new web accelarator doesn't work any differently than any other service on the web: It's free and it's use is not mandatory. If your privacy is such a big concern to you then don't use it. Targeted web marketing is the past, current and future of the internet. Goolge and it's stock will continue to grow for a very long time.
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Privacy advocates need to give it a rest
by rockerrb May 7, 2005 8:14 PM PDT
Google's new web accelarator doesn't work any differently than any other service on the web: It's free and it's use is not mandatory. If your privacy is such a big concern to you then don't use it. Targeted web marketing is the past, current and future of the internet.
Goolge is a huge multibillion dollar company. Any minor technical problems should be quickly and easily resolved. Goolge and it's stock will continue to grow for a very long time.
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Its in beta
by May 9, 2005 8:55 AM PDT
In my opinion google is doing nothing wrong and has not promoted or presented this app incorectly. The thing is in beta. Of course there will be errors. Of course there will be security leaks. betas should not be entered into lightly by anyone. When you use a beta you take responsibility for your own information and security because the software is known to be faulty. Its in beta to fix the faults and find out what is desired for the program. This is a non news item. Sheesh
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The typo has been corrected
by Jon Skillings May 9, 2005 10:07 AM PDT
As several of you have pointed out, HTTPS is the correct term. The story has been fixed. Thanks for calling the typo to our attention.
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