Comments on: Growth rate slips for Firefox usage

The rate at which people are putting the browser into action is slowing, but IE's market share continues to dip.

[Jonathan]

I highly doubt it.

Why? Simple. I and many of my friend are distributing FF via thumbdrive. In my case iPod. I know more then a few techheads who when they go to service a computer they install FF from their thunbdrive instead of downloading it.
I think that there is a critical mass of downloads right now. I mean for god sake I got a new computer last week and simply installed FF of my home server's network share. Its faster (OK only by a few seconds.) then downloading it.
Honestly I wouldn't trust the numbers that spreadfirefox is giving. I think they are deceptively low. We won?t even get into the discussion of the number of people I know who are still on a prerelease version of FF.

[System Tyrant]

Numbers game

Your probably right about the number of users. I think the only way we will ever have a good statistic is when tracked websites start seeing more Mozilla/Firefox hits. Numbers still aren't going to be correct, but when those sites start showing a good amount of firefox hits it would probably be safe to say that firefox is climing.

In my own opinion I would like to see a good split between the competing browser. Competition always breeds better and more invintive software.

[photomatt]

What about CNET itself?

It would be interesting to see how news.com and other CNET site's stats reflect the growth of Firefox.

[David Arbogast]

Not really...

Interesting? Not really... Seeing that news.com maintains links to slashdot, and publishes people like Torvalds and Stallman with no counterpoint makes it pretty clear that the stats from this site will be severely biased towards anything anti-Microsoft.

[Bill Dautrive]

To get an accurate count

You would have to poll a wide variety of sites. Poll sites that techies and wannabees go to and it will skew the numbers towrds alternate browsers. Go to general sites that attract those that might not know much about computing and it will be skewed towards IE.

Also, don't forget that firefox can tell a web server that it is IE, which skews the numbers. In short there is no accurate way to get a decent poll.

Put firefox in OEM boxes and let the user choose what to use. I think IE will lose that battle, which is probably why you don't see FF bundled into dell or hp machines, but it should.

[System Tyrant]

Poll Amazon.

Amazon.com is a site used by many. How about eBay.com or MusiciansFriends.com? Poll Microsofts website and Novells websites.

Here are some more...
cnn.com
msnbc.com
alias.com
vh1.com
mtv.com
cmt.com
linux.org

Let's play with the numbers

Comparing the growth as the percent of the previously makes
sense just if you want to manipulate the figures in some way...
beside that: FF+Mozilla was 6.9% the 3 dec 04, 7.6% the 14 Jan
05 and 8.2 the 18 Feb 05, wich means a +0.7% in December and
+0.6% in Jaunary.
If we take into account that the two time frames are not the
same (41 days against 35) we see that the growth is actually
linear and steady,

Stupid, misleading Article

And the readers aren't much better...

Rate of growth slowing does not mean less people are switching
to it, it means that there are so many people using it already
that the number of new users is relatively less. For example
when only one person is using it, and a second follows along the
next week, the rate of growth is 100%/week. This is clearly not
sustainable.

You hear things like "the rate of HIV infection has doubled in
straight single white males in the past 12 months" That sounds
ominous, but it could mean that instead of 1 case in 12 months
there were 2.

hardly earth shattering.

Without seeing the actual numbers it is all just BS.

[catchall]

Funny, yes?

That the same folks that have pointed to the number of downloads as a 'fact' that FireFox has taked off are the same ones that now say the numbers 'lie' or don't matter. Think about it for more than a second. Give it a few minutes.

[sanenazok]

Too Early to Extrapolate

Firefox has been out for what 4 months, and you oracles already determined that it has passed its zenith? You should give it at least a year and then with the benefit of hindsight you'll know what happened and when.

I'm glad Cnet runs this story though, it shows that it's time to remind people about this great browser. Oh yes and if you like IE please keep it.

[Stating]

Firefox Unfriendly Sites: Demand Choice

It amazes me that in 2005 there are still so many sites that only support ActiveX (IE). This is most prevalent at sites that offer multimedia content. I switched from IE to Firefox a month ago and love it. But it irks me to no end to have to use IE at sites like launch.com (are you listening?). Even more perverse is that IE on the WinCE platform cannot play any multimedia content. Another major pain is when I access mail.yahoo.com from my PDA. It tells me that I am using an older browser (IE 4), and requires I click "OK" to fall back to an older Yahoo interface. I must do this EVERY time I access Yahoo mail on my < 6 month old Axim PDA.

So, most of you are sick of not having more browser competition. Then call and email your web content providers and demand that that support other browsers. Demand that they offer Java based versions of their sites. And tell them that you will take your business elsewhere if they don't. Vote with your pocketbook. My goal to to have to use IE for one and only one thing -- Windows Update.

P.S. I can't wait for the beta of Mini Mozilla (MiniMo) for Windows CE so I have some choice there as well.

Keith
www.techcando.com

[iqula]

The next big open source story

Shadowed by the Firefox boom the revolutionaly free personal online desktop servce http://www.cosmopod.com is rapidly breaking ground as the premier online work space.

IE numbers even smaller...

I manage a handful of sites and after careful study of the logs
I've discovered that the IE numbers are significantly lower than
log stat tools report.

The reason is that almost all referrer/comment/hacking traffic
hitting websites today comes in with an IE browser type.

I filtered two weeks of traffic to my weblog and the change in
"market share" was quite surprising:
http://jerryrig.com/log/a2281

It would be interesting to see the spam-filtered results for high-
traffic sites.

[HARV XAVIER]

Quick

believe me .we (Firefox)coming up without delay..!!!
or name it with (promptly) SIR ..