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Comments on: Police Blotter: E911 rules aid police in tracking cell phones

Court order lets Homeland Security obtain precise location data from T-Mobile about customer's movements in real time.

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If it isn't precise enough...
by The_Decider February 8, 2008 6:10 PM PST
...to cause an invasion of privacy, then it also has no useful law enforcement value.

"He is guilty because he was in the general area".

That is obscene and unconstitutional and is a massive invasion of privacy.

I bet the FBI is loving this. They could get all the major cell carriers to log who is in a protest area.

Another blow to civil rights. Hopefully an appeals court will toss this crap out.
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It is precise enough...
by My-Self February 9, 2008 12:08 AM PST
If it isn't precise enough, just wait a couple of years and it will be. GPS assisted phones are already precise to 10 feet. Is that precise enough ?

"I bet the FBI is loving this. They could get all the major cell carriers to log who is in a protest area"

You bet they've been doing this for years ?
You bet the data will be used to target "caging list" prospects in November ?

Courts can say whatever they want, they're no more in charge. Disobedient judges know what awaits them and will "decide" whatever they're "suggested" to decide.

And they (still) call it Democracy ! What a sick joke ...
If you track my phone.
by Imalittleteapot February 8, 2008 11:17 PM PST
If you track my phone it will give you no inclination as to where I am whatsoever. I forget it in the car or at work weekly. Other times I don?t even take it to work. Most of the time when I leave with my wife she takes hers, and I won?t take mine.

Also, I don?t like to be bothered while driving. When I am driving it is off. If you can track mine when it is off or not I don?t know, but when I am in the car it is off.

I just don?t like to be reachable 24/7 like other people, and I generally hate telephones anyway. I like text messages or email. Send me a message, and I can deal with it when I feel like it instead of when you feel like it. It is also off while I am sleeping.

If there is an emergency you should be calling 911, not me. They aren?t going to let me into surgery anyway. You can text me directions and the hospital?s visiting hours. Is there a nuclear attack? I can?t outrun a nuclear bomb! Stop wasting my time! I?m sleeping.

My boss gets mad at me because I don?t leave it on 24/7. However, he doesn?t pay me 24/7 so I don?t see the problem.

When I don?t mind being bothered I?ll take it, but if I?m going out with friends or whatever it stays home, and they get my full attention. Other people will have to leave a message.

I would say me and my phone are only on the same side of town about 50% of the time.
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What a surprise ! (not really)
by My-Self February 8, 2008 11:55 PM PST
From the day this requirement was added using emergency calls as an excuse, it was evident the main use for it was to track people. For the majority of people who always carry them around, it allows their geolocation data to be stored indefinitely, minute by minute. If carefully compressed, the data with 1 minute resolution is only 526K readings / year. With differential coding and a bit of compression 50 years of every place a person have ever been (with his cell phone) can fit in a quarter of a CD, or about 20 cents worth of disk space making it financially possible.

Coupled with the ability to activate the mic remotely, we end up voluntarily carrying a powerful and hostile spying device.

Unfortunately, people simply seem to get used to this permanent spying and still think we're free, unable to see the essence of freedom being taken away from them.
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T-MOBILE TRACKING CELL PHONE FOR POLICE
by chunchuneto February 9, 2008 9:21 AM PST
T-MOBILE SUCK NO PRIVET SEE.TRACKING CELL PHONES IF T-MOBILE KEEP THIS UP THERE GOIN TO GO OUT OF BISSNESS I NOW. WY IM GOIN TO ANOTHER CELL PHONE COMPANY. INVATION OF PRIVETSEE .THERE GOES ARE FREEDOME OF SPEECH.WITH T-MOBILE YOU GOT NO FREEDOME OF SPEECH...........SO IF YOU HAVE T-MOBILE WATCH OUT THEY NO WHERE YOU ARE.SO HAVE T-MOBILE YOU HAVE NO FREEDOME OF SPEECH THATS WHAT THERE TELLING US.THAT ONLY THING THAT SHOUD NO YOU AT IS GOD.NOW DO YOU WANT SOME BODY PLAYING GOD,T-MOBILE DOES.GOIN OUT BISSNES IF THEY KEEP DOIN THIS. THIS IS AMERICA JACK.FREEDOME OF SPEECH RULES.AND TO T-MOBILE INC.DONT TAKE ALWAY MY FREEDOME OF SPEECH
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T-MOBILE TRACKING CELL PHONE FOR POLICE
by chunchuneto February 9, 2008 9:27 AM PST
T-MOBILE SUCK NO PRIVET SEE.TRACKING CELL PHONES IF T-MOBILE KEEP THIS UP THERE GOIN TO GO OUT OF BISSNESS I NO. WY IM GOIN TO ANOTHER CELL PHONE COMPANY. INVATION OF PRIVETSEE .THERE GOES ARE FREEDOME OF SPEECH.WITH T-MOBILE YOU GOT NO FREEDOME OF SPEECH...........SO IF YOU HAVE T-MOBILE WATCH OUT THEY NO WHERE YOU ARE.SO HAVE T-MOBILE YOU HAVE NO FREEDOME OF SPEECH THATS WHAT THERE TELLING US.THAT ONLY THING THAT SHOUD NO YOU AT IS GOD.NOW DO YOU WANT SOME BODY PLAYING GOD,T-MOBILE DOES.GOIN OUT BISSNES IF THEY KEEP DOIN THIS. THIS IS AMERICA JACK.FREEDOME OF SPEECH RULES.AND TO T-MOBILE INC.DONT TAKE ALWAY MY FREEDOME OF SPEECH
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No Probable Cause Required?
by itchief February 14, 2008 10:59 AM PST
After electronically tracking citizens without probable cause the government's next step will be warrentless searches of anyone...their persons, homes, businesses, vehicles, storage media...for HOMELAND SECURITY, of course!
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