Comments on: Police blotter: Sex offender demands Playboy on PC

In this week's installment, committed murderer and sex offender who had his laptop confiscated wins in federal court.

[jones_8099]

First off?

This guy should be happy he is still alive and out of prison (he is
in a "secure treatment facility for sex offenders" not a prison). If
he were in my state I would have pushed for the Death Penalty.
And for those of you who are willing to say that is to harsh
because he is mentally ill, well screw that, mental illness should
not be an excuse for murder. A case in point would be the
woman who killed her 3 (I think it was 3) small children and got
out of the death penalty on an insanity plea is complete BS. And
to answer everyones question, yes I believe so strongly in the
death penalty that I would be willing to "pull the switch" myself.
Back to the Playboy stuff, he was in violation of the law so he
deserved to lose his computer. After all once your a convicted
criminal you only have limited rights until you are off parole so
the rights he is claiming were never violated.

[Amigoid]

Limited Rights during parole?

How about limited rights for the rest of his life? Even after completing treatment he will have to register for the rest of his life. He will have to stay in contact with the police, he will be monitored, he will not be able to live anywhere he wants. Don't worry, he will probably wish he was dead.

[cnutsucks]

Catering to Criminals

It's so amazing that law-abiding Americans have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for healthcare,
http://www.teckmagazine.com/content/view/631/43/
cable tv and even game rentals while prisoners get FREE access to all of the above as well as housing and meals. Stop catering to these thugs. No wonder most criminals are repeat offenders.

[jsh123]

Transfer him to the Airzona desert prison

He would always be stylish in the hot pink garb. HE gets to eat beans and franks every day, breakfast, lucnh and dinner. No computers, no problems. All the reading material you want as lond as it is the bible. Same goes for the TV only Disney is all that is available.

[GadgetDon]

He's not in prison

Remember, he's not in prison. He has completed his prison
sentence. He is in a medical facility to treat his issues.
(Actually, he's being held beyond his prison sentence which has
not always held up to constitutional muster.) He no longer has a
legal debt to pay to society.

So, this issue has nothing to do with whether he "deserves"
these luxuries or not. It's whether the need to keep peace within
the wards and and keep him from being a danger to himself or
others is greater than the reduction of the right to read what
they choose. It's going to be a tough call for the judges.

[Mister C]

Lock Them All Up!

Treat them like animals! But don't be surprised at the way they behave when they do get out.

The American prison system produces the finest sociopaths in the world! What we need is more and harsher prisons. That will fix the problem. Look how well it has worked so far!

[btljooz]

At whose EX$PEN$E???.....THINK about that...

Quite a few years ago it co$t taxpayers an average of $35,000 a year to house just ONE prisoner.

I say we should be very $elective as to who and why we "lock up" people!!!

[CBSTV]

Slay, Kill, Destroy!

That's a good idea, jones_8099. Slay these people. Toss another
body upon the pile.

[btljooz]

No better than criminals......

jones_8099, CBSTV and those like them.

ALL of YOU belong on that very same "pile"!!!

[wileytuten]

Well...

If you're in a drug rehab facility and get busted with dope, I'm sure the dope is going to get confiscated. Dope is illegal though, while porn isn't. But if he were an alcoholic... and he was busted dead drunk... I'm sure the remaining alcohol would get confiscated.

Pornography is this is Sex Offender's dope.

What kind of alcohol treatment program would want their patients loaded on alcohol.

In God become Flesh, Jesus The Christ's Name,
Wiley Tuten
www.wileytuten.com

[lampietheclown]

Pornography is this is Sex Offender's dope? No.

While I have no problem with castration of serial rapists (a
compromise to those who think we should keep them alive), I
can't accept your assumption that "Pornography is this is Sex
Offender's dope."

His crime was B&E, serial rape, and murder. I saw no mention of
pornography being a part of his crime, or his reason for
becoming a rapist.

The theory that porn causes men to rape women is as old as
"she was asking for it by dressing like that", and is just as
wrong.
If you can't quite get your head around that, then consider that
we are talking about Playboy covers, not bondage or S&M
photos.

If the idea is to punish him some more by taking away his
computer, I think it's a really lame idea, and shows a lack of
conviction. However, if taking things away from him is the only
punishment option, may I suggest food, air, or reproductive
organs as a more suitable choice?

If Playboy covers are pornography, then I like pornography.
I like women, and you have to admit, some of them are really
easy on the eyes. Thank you God. More please. Amen.

Please don't turn something that simple into something
complicated and evil by linking it to this guy's crimes.

Lampie

[wtortorici]

How do you spell castrate?

:)

[Jim Hubbard]

Why is he still breathing?

I get everything else......but, why is this guy still breathing?

[Amigoid]

Why is he breathing?

Because he, like you, live in the United States, where he has some rights. Perhaps if he lived in Iran you could stone him. They are very liberal in their punishment options.

[dt3012]

Las vegas is now an accomplice??

I was very unpleased to read that Las Vegas has recently opened its first Playboy club in the last twenty years, since the last one was closed in 1988. I think it's a very wrong decision! Do those Sex offenders need more temptations?? What will be next???

[Amigoid]

Vegas == Sin City

I'm a bit surprised at the last posting. Were you not aware that there are numerous strip bars and gentlemens clubs already in operation? That Nevada legalized prostitution in several locations? That even the biggest and best casinos offer adult entertainment? That any cabbie/bellman/concierge in the city with any time under his belt can direct you to escort services? To suggest that a new Playboy club in Vegas is going to lead to the collapse of moral society is akin to complaining that a fish market moving in next to the oil refinery and stockyards might stink up the neighborhood.

[Amigoid]

Another frivilous lawsuit?

But at least he lives in a country where he has that right. Just because he can file the complaint does not mean it will carry over in court. And as he is in treatment and in a situation where someone else is responsible for his care, they have to take the PC to help him work through his problems.

[btljooz]

Maybe, maybe not. The only reason this is

"NEWS" is that it concerns a "Sex Offender". Otherwise no one would even blink at it!

[btljooz]

Sexual Predator Hystrionics

OK, yes, what this PARTICULAR individual did was heinous to the first degree and he deserves PRISON and not the "country club" he is in! BUT why don't they simply LET him have his computer with CONTOLS and FILTERS on it? The technology DOES exist!!! That way he can learn RESPONSIBLE online behavior. He'll never learn a thing by being bullied like this!!!

Second, rape, per se, is generally NOT about SEX!!! It IS, however, about POWER! It just so happens that the p-e-n-i-s is used as the weapon of choice in stead of, say: a gun, knife, ?water pistol, WHATEVER! I know by first hand experience about this as a rape victim. I didn't get paranoid from the experience, but instead it made me curious enough to LEARN the FACTS about people who commit these atrocities so that I could learn how to protect MYSELF!!!

Now, how many of you Death Penalty supporters are Right-to-Lifers???????????? EH??????????? That's a bit oxymoronic and hypocritical, is it not??????????????

I suggest you do as I did. LEARN about the subject you speak about so that you can speak about it in an INTELLIGENT manner?!?!?!?!?

START here:

Test your Sexual Offender Intelligence Quotient here:

http://www.soab.state.pa.us/soab/cwp/browse.asp?a=3&bc=0&c=39615&soabNav=

As an educator and/or parent Start YOUR education here:

http://www.geocities.com/eadvocate/issues/?20064

Move along to these quotes from:

http://portlandme.wpadmin.about.com/?comments_popup=257612:

>According to data compiled by the U.S. Justice Department (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#sex ), the high recidivism rate of sex offenders is a myth. Sex offenders have an overall recidivism rate of less than 6 percent over three years, and 40 percent of those who do re-offend do so in the first year after their release. More detailed analysis confirms that a sex offender?s likelihood of committing a new crime decreases the longer he or she remains free; in other words, if they?re going to commit another crime, it will probably happen in the first few years after their release.

Of course, this sort of data doesn?t make for good sound bytes for politicians seeking to foster a ?get tough? image to bolster their chances for election or re-election; but it?s the truth, as much as they may deny it.

Nonetheless, the supposedly high sex offender recidivism rates that politicians seem to pull out of thin air (when was the last time you heard one cite an actual study to validate the numbers they quote?) have created an environment where the mere presence of an individual who committed a sex crime five, ten, or twenty years ago is enough to cast a community into a state of panic. Given the misinformation and lies of the politicians (and the media?s dutiful reporting of same), it?s no wonder that some, at least, feel that vigilante justice is an appropriate response.

In the end, it all comes down to a simple question: Should our government be in the business of facilitating vigilantism? Certainly the legislators who wrote these laws will argue that that was not their intention, but the effect is the same.

These laws remind me of the ?attractive nuisance? concept in liability law. People who work with potentially dangerous equipment (circular saws, pesticides, chemicals, and so forth) are required to safeguard those items to prevent curious children (and others) from hurting themselves. If a carpenter leaves his circular saw unattended and a child picks it up and cuts himself, the carpenter is liable for costs and damages related to the child?s injuries. The argument that it wasn?t the carpenter?s intent that a child pick up and play with his circular saw is irrelevant. By leaving it unattended, he created an attractive nuisance; and he is therefore liable.

Creating a public hysteria about sex offenders, and then publishing their names and addresses on the Web, where anyone can access that information without so much as providing identification, is akin to leaving a power saw unattended. Anyone ? stable or unstable, honorable or malicious ? can access that information and use it in any way they like. This opens the door not only to vigilantism, but also to innocent people being killed because of mistaken identity.

If this information is to be made public at all (personally, I think it should only be available to law enforcement professionals), then the only safe balance between the public?s ?right to know? and the concept of the rule of law is to release the information only to adults who physically walk into a police station, present identification, and make an inquiry about a particular individual. This creates accountability and helps safeguard against random vigilantism.

In other words, if the neighbor down the street seems to be a bit too friendly towards your children and you want to check him out, that seems to me a legitimate use of sex offender registration information. But to simply publish all of this data on the Web, with no safeguards to prevent it from being used irresponsibly or criminally, is unconscionable in a society whose conduct supposedly is based upon the rule of law.

Comment by Bugsy ? May 4, 2006 @ 10:01 am

Anyone who values their liberties and who has studied history should be afraid - very afraid ? of these laws.

Long before Hitler killed the first Jew in Nazi Germany, he paved the way for the wholesale disenfranchisement of human beings by ? you guessed it ? attacking the rights of sex offenders. From 1933 through 1936, a series of amendments were passed to Paragraphs 173 through 188 of the German Penal Law specifically targeting homosexuals and others determined to be ?sexual deviants.?

The sex offender laws created under the Nazi Third Reich may as well have been the model for ?Megan?s Law.? They established the first sex offender registry, required sex offenders to register their whereabouts and to wear pink triangles, and established draconian punishments for sex crimes that included long prison terms, loss of voting rights, confinement in concentration camps, and (sometimes) the death penalty. All of these laws were justified by the Nazi?s in the same way that our present-day politicians justify Megan?s Law: to protect the children from sexual predators.

Of course, Hitler had other things in mind, as history shows us; and targeting sex offenders was just a way to establish the precedent of wholesale deprivation of human rights in preparation for his later attacks against the people he truly hated.

It?s doubtful that the German people would have acquiesced to Hitler?s rounding up Jews, Gypsies, Communists, Socialists, trade unionists, and so forth, and sending them off to death camps in 1933 when he first ascended to power. Hitler had to first establish a precedent that some people were subhuman and unworthy of human rights ? and he started with the most universally despised group he could find.

Anyone who thinks that this couldn?t happen again is delusional. The simple fact is that history shows that you can?t single out one group for deprivation of civil rights without weakening those rights for everyone else.

Comment by Liberty Lover ? May 7, 2006 @ 8:54 am<

And while you're at it take a long hard look at these and THINK about the consequences of the afore mentioned Hysteria created by online 'S-exual O-ffender L-ists':

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1855771&page=1

After you have read that one just think; If some vigilante found their next victim and instead found someone else at home, what would happen then???

And THINK about this one while you're at it:

http://saltlakecity.about.com/b/a/257300.htm

Take this Poll on SOLs:

http://saltlakecity.about.com/library/blsub/blpoll/blpollsexoffender2.htm

Or just view the Results:

http://saltlakecity.about.com/gi/pages/poll.htm?linkback=http%3A%2F%2Fsaltlakecity.about.com%2Flibrary%2Fblsub%2Fblpoll%2Fblpollsexoffender2.htm&poll_id=5911059616&poll=3&submit1=Submit+Vote

At the time I took this poll a whopping 60% of us felt these lists did more harm than good!!!

Now for FBI info:

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cid/cac/registry.htm

First it was ?Deadbeat Dad?s?, Then ?Sexual Offenders? Now this ?list making? is on the increaser:

http://government.zdnet.com/?p=2532

AND it?s going to get to be an even BIGGER PROBLEM! I watched a Council Meeting in Washington, D.C. on CNBC yesterday about ISPs tracking in REAL time every single move you make on-line and keeping those records for an indefinite period of time. They were discussing existing laws and possible future laws pertaining to this subject.

All of this flies directly in the face of our Founding Fathers and the Constitution/Bill of Rights they forged for our country to begin with.

http://findlaw.com/casecode/constitution/

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.billofrights.html

Giving up your rights that millions have fought for just so you can 'feel safe' is the very definition of cowardice.

If the ?gov? continues to make lists of people, we ALL will find ourselves on at least ONE of them!!! Which list will YOU be on???

BTW: A No Brainer: Predators Prefer Dimwitted Prey

http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/060802_brain_prey.html

[Amigoid]

Well reasoned and thorough. Bravo

Very well put.
I'd say that the reason they took the laptop is because the people looking after him were not sophisticated enough to know what filters to put in place. They also may have had him sign an agreement saying that he would have nothing like that on the computer.

[jones_8099]

To answer your question?

I am pro-life and pro-choice depending on the situation. A rape
victim has every right to have a choice but a woman who had
sex willingly should not get a choice, she knew what could
happen when she chose to have sex therefore by default
accepting any consequences to her actions (examples being, an
STD or pregnancy). However, that is not the true subject of this
discussion. The death penalty is good for two main reasons: one
it effectively punishes those who commit terrible crimes (such as
violent rape or murder) and two it relieves economic pressure so
we can effectively punish lesser criminals with jail time and I
personally believe it to be a good deterrent. On a side note if we
got rid of all the comforts in prison (cable, gym, soft beds and
forced them to eat only MREs) then that would help our housing
cost also. And on another side note Porn is a degrading and
disgusting way to treat women and should be illegal anyway.