Comments on: Apple: iPod means our pod

Mac maker cries trademark infringement, sends cease-and-desist letters to companies using "pod" in product names.

[slewisma]

ipod yes, pod no

The term pod has been used with many products by many companies, especially in the photography and video industry for tripods, mono-pods, clamp-pods, etc. I can see Apple having some claim to the use of "iPod" but it seems a stretch that they can claim the more generic pod after so much past use.

thepod.ca also apparently trademarked "pod".

[Shadowfire267]

Well come to think of it

Man i never knew that my laptop manafature would get sued by Apple. My laptop "receive and transmit data" (WiFi), its "used with computers" (aka Network), and on top of that "are used in connection with video games" (Playing Games). Man that is pure bull seriosuly, you can say pod in anything. Like if I were to say im gonna go to my Escape Pod (not saying I have one), what would I get sued. Why are they sueing them now? Is it beacuse Ipod sales are Down I sence a second benifit to this!!! any one else.....

[technewsjunkie]

Microsoft tried to trademark "windows" (small "w")

How many (non-technology) companies use the term "windows" in
thier product materials??

Audacious.

[Methuss]

"pod is a Dictionary term...not a TM

Apple is being rediculous. Next thing you know they will send C&D letters to farmers for marketing "peas in a pod." Just a bunch of corporate lawyers trying to justify their existance.

[tipper_gore]

no, it's just business

If they don't come down on stuff like this the trademark will get watered down to the point that they will lose it. It's just the way business works. There's nothing special about this -- it goes on thousands of times a day with thousands of companies, however we happen to be hearing about this one because iPods are trendy.

[the Otter]

So is ?Apple?

?and yet Apple Corps successfully sued Apple in the ?80s and
?90s. A word?s presence in the dictionary doesn?t mean it can?t be
trademarked.

[Tui Pohutukawa]

pod is a Dictionary term

Well spotted!

CNET Sucks

Give me a break with this nonsense. It's an iPod
http://www.techknowcafe.com/content/view/627/43/
so get over it.

[Vegaman_Dan]

Beg your poden?

Good luck, Apple. I don't see much luck in copyrighting 'pod' and trying to sue anyone for using the term. That's a good way to kill off all your accessory partners for making iPod accessories- whoops, I meant 'personal music devices made by a certain Cupertino, CA company we cannot name'.

I remember when Apple tried to copyright 'Apple' and sued apple growers in Washington state. That didn't get far either.

It's much easier to welcome and help companies out with the use of the name than to fight it. It's that sort of attitude that will drive people to the Zume or other devices instead.

[imacpwr]

My camera's got a triPOD..!!

Dare I say in public that my camera has a triPOD..?!?!

[Sboston]

I'm in real trouble then,

I have two tripods!!!!!!

What a load of Horse Hockey!

I'm glad I bought my wife teh Sansa media player. She loves it and Apple has nothing to do with it.

[technewsjunkie]

"i-POD" is indees an extraordinary marketing success

I don't her anyone in CASUAL CONVERSATION saying I "Zen"-ed
it, or "X-Boxed it". But they are using "Pod" for ALL MANNER of
news and audio downloading.

"PodCasting" is ubiquitous, not "MP3-ing".

"pod" has become a term for mobil and media technology and a
"lifestyle" designation due to it's pop culture popularity.

BRANDING is worth something.

[waterspider]

Oh please

What a Microsoft-esque move...

[gconrads]

No, this is more general

Every company needs to do this.
Sad but true. Otherwise there is no point in the TM.

[Christopher Hall]

Sue the whales

I've heard they travel in pods. I think it's high time they stopped that nonsense.

Apple legal team - GO!

[slim-1]

Line 6 Pod predates the iPod

This is an effects unit for guitarist and bass players.

Since they are both music related Line 6 should sue Apple over it just on principle.

I guess Line 6 has more class than they do.

[gconrads]

Class maybe...

I own a couple line 6 pods. Quite good gear, but it is not clear whether or not Line 6 has relevant TM's regarding the "pod" designation. Also, the L6 Pod, is a great example of why Apple does in fact need to do this. TM rulings are not always a matter of who was there first, but in many cases a TM ruling has to do with Market presence, and efforts to protect.

For example: John Doe might have taken a TM out on "Mickey Mouse" in 1910, but if he hasn't done anything to protect his TM while some 50+ years later Disney has become the "Mickey Mouse" we all know about, then John Doe's TM is of very little value.

In the end few legal matters have to do with class, and I suspect that Steve Jobs isn't personally behind any specific attempts to protect their marketspace other than generally approving the legal methods needed to do so.

[the Otter]

Line 6 wouldn?t sue Apple?

They use Apple products quite extensively.

[fastfred1]

PODDY MOUTH

They didn't beat

HAL...HAL open the POD bay doors.

[cary1]

They think people are a bunch of fools....

Look at this device first http://www.mach5products.com/profit/PROFIT%20main.htm

and now read this:

"We believe there is confusing similarity between Apple's iPod mark and the Profit Pod mark. Both devices receive and transmit data, and are used with computers, both are used in connection with video games, and both have other similar components. Moreover, it has not gone unnoticed that, like Apple's iPod device, the Profit Pod product is a small, flat, round-cornered rectangular device with a display screen."

Do you think this device is profiting from iPod's populatiry? Do you think this device will eat away iPod's market share? This is so rediculus. Apple can try all it wants.. it's difficult to win this case. I think they are wasting their time and money here

[Sboston]

hmm

Well I must say that the Profit Pod deos not look portable at all. The display is dinky, no control wheel, can't play music at all....

Sheesh Apple!

[DaClyde]

Am I missing something?

What does the iPod have to do with video games? And how could something which is nothing more than a wireless digital counter be confused with an iPod?

[The user with no name]

omg!!

When I followed th elink to the site of the ProfitPod I was SO TOTALLY CONFUSED!!!

Was I looking at an Apple product or some other kind of gizmo? I really couldn't be sure if this was an iPod knock off or what! I wish I could have looked for where the headphones plugged in and tried out the iTunes integration!

I really HOPE AND PRAY that MS really does make a good player (lol Ive started seeing designs for other companies new players too and am excited!) as well as offering to buy my music out from the ProfitPod.. ahem.. I mean my iPOd (see I still confused those two...NOT!) I am so tired of authorized computers being able to be used, not being able to put MY MUSIC I PAID FOR from iTunes onto other devices WIHTOUT LOOSING QUALITY due to the decompression and then recompression...

Apple's days are limited (Once the iPOd sales begin to falter what'll hold up the rest of the company then?) and I think they are beginning to see reality. So what do they do the only thing they can... sue people to try to build up a defense that they have ALWAYS been protective of their market and devices so as competitors begin to take their market share they can have a 'history' defense.

[botherfree59]

Oh, yeah...

I would definitely mistake the Profit Pod for an ipod.....NOT!

[gconrads]

This is a must.

Every company that has trademarks has to show a reasonable effort to protect it's mark, otherwise the courts can say that the scope of their TM has declined due to their own lack of policing.

This has more to do with legal issues than with Apple in particular.

[sbwinn]

Just how the system works (?)

I didn't say it was efficient, correct, or even smart.

If you take a closer look at it, it is all about lawyers making
business for themselves. If you want a trademark you have to hire
lawyers to get one and more lawyers to keep one.

I blame the lawyers!! Nine times out of ten it's their fault anyway.

[gconrads]

a-greed

The only reasonable conclusion that can be made from this article has been stated above.

[heystoopid]

Question?

Question, does that mean that every printed , audio and video article with the word "pod" in any form, from the dawn of time, be re-edited and contain "Trade Mark Apple Computer Inc."

How low can one go?

[dahnb]

zen nano 2 years before ipod nano

Creative had a "Zen Nano" on the market about 2 years before the "IPod Nano"!
Isn't this more blatant a copyright infringement than using the term "pod"?

[lkrupp]

Yeah, but...

After Creative assumes room temperature later this year who will
care anyway?

[gggg sssss]

clue in the headline

Saw a headline in the UK that iPods ( mentioned by name ) were to be used by the terrorists there to detonate stuff. Maybe Apple will sue the terrorists. ROTFLMAO

[Lyricraider]

Who Sues Who

Apple, Apple, Apple. Didn't I just read a short while ago of a "Pod" company being sued for copyright violation from the old time rock group "The Beatles", for infringing on their logo? My, my, how things do turn around, now the big "Pod" is calling all the little "Pods" black.

[alaaji]

lest you forget...

Do you remember the "Lindows" vs. "Windows" lawsuit? Guess who won that one? The big boy with the heavy pockets!

[daveworld]

Good Point

Does MS have a patent on the word "Windows"? Just wondering.........

[cary1]

they were competing in the same market

Ther are both OS and Lindows had the look and feel of Windows. A person can install Lindows on his PC in place of Windows... but in iPod's case, the two products have no similarity except that they are both digital devices

But I agree, the word 'Windows' should not be patented. For same reason, they call it 'Blu-Ray' and not 'Blue-Ray'

[idsantos]

My Trademark is...

My Trademark is I or i, so maybe 'I' should send a letter to Apple, requsting that they change the Ipod name to something else.