Comments on: Court yanks down FCC's broadcast flag

Just weeks before July deadline, an appeals court zaps federal anticopying rules for digital TV.

[Jonathan]

Wow...so there is such a thing as fair rulings?

That was very impressive. Now lets see if we can do something about a consumers bill of rights. K?

[Gerald Quaglia]

What the court really said

was that the FCC had no authority to require the flag, not that the flag was unfair. Once congress passes a law instituting it, it will be game on for the greedy Entertainment industry. Just wait, soon your tivo won't let you skip commercials or record anything worthwhile, without paying extra for it anyway.

[Jonathan]

Wow...so there is such a thing as fair rulings?

That was very impressive. Now lets see if we can do something about a consumers bill of rights. K?

[Gerald Quaglia]

What the court really said

was that the FCC had no authority to require the flag, not that the flag was unfair. Once congress passes a law instituting it, it will be game on for the greedy Entertainment industry. Just wait, soon your tivo won't let you skip commercials or record anything worthwhile, without paying extra for it anyway.

ruling is moot - Congress will overturn anyway

all manufacturers have put in CGMS-A -- Content Generation Management System for Analog at least 2 years ago. All dvd recorders have the analog flag built in. (CGMS-A standard was approved in 95? check out hbos new ban everything policy at www.hbo.com/corpinfo/faq/cgmsfaq.shtml#jump0.
Someone please let me know if there are any dvd recorders that didnt have the flag put in.

[Jonathan]

It takes a hell of a lot more to pass it through congress...

Learn how the system works...Its not that easy to pass it through congress and it will get a lot more attention too both of which the MPAA does NOT want. I can guarantee you that the nanosecond it hits headline news that a bill to keep joe consumer from recording what he/she want on TV the fhit will hit the san. Its one thing to dick with P2P networks its another to dick with dad's VCR\DVR setup.

ruling is moot - Congress will overturn anyway

all manufacturers have put in CGMS-A -- Content Generation Management System for Analog at least 2 years ago. All dvd recorders have the analog flag built in. (CGMS-A standard was approved in 95? check out hbos new ban everything policy at www.hbo.com/corpinfo/faq/cgmsfaq.shtml#jump0.
Someone please let me know if there are any dvd recorders that didnt have the flag put in.

[Jonathan]

It takes a hell of a lot more to pass it through congress...

Learn how the system works...Its not that easy to pass it through congress and it will get a lot more attention too both of which the MPAA does NOT want. I can guarantee you that the nanosecond it hits headline news that a bill to keep joe consumer from recording what he/she want on TV the fhit will hit the san. Its one thing to dick with P2P networks its another to dick with dad's VCR\DVR setup.

True.. true

As much as i agree the with first post.. the second is more likely to be true..

Bush has time and time again proven that Big money is the only thing he cares about.. the courts struck it down.. but Bush and Congress will take millions of dollars in lobbying money and then hide/sneak it into a bill to protect his intrests.

Sorry to say.. but anyone that thinks america stands for fairness and justice is wrong..

We are a country with a court system ruled by personal opinions of corrupt judges, and justice is dolled out based on how much money you have and who you are connected with.. and right now.. the rule of the land is Bush and his money/power friends.

So much for the pledge of allegiance.. "with liberty and justice for all" seems to have gone by the wayside to "with facisim and limited personal freedoms defined by a small minority of goverment and rich people for all".

Fatalistic?

>Bush has time and time again proven that Big money is the only
>thing he cares about.. the courts struck it down.. but Bush and
>Congress will take millions of dollars in lobbying money and then
>hide/sneak it into a bill to protect his intrests.

Maybe so, but average people (voters) react when things affect them personally. The changes the GOP are now trying to push hit too close to home, and many voters are beginning to have serious doubts about direction. Check out todays polls on Social Security. An overwhelming majority doesn't want it touched. The GOP does so at its own peril.

The HD recording issue is very similar. Do not tell Joe Sixpack that he CANNOT record his Raiders game in HD and view it later on whatever device he chooses in broadcast quality.

That's the issue, and if congress sides with the MPAA on it, you don't think Joe Sixpack will remember that in 2006?

[Prndll]

Incase you haven't noticed.....

The judges that are causing the problems were not put there by Bush. The whole point in the contraversy surrounding Bush's nominated judges deal with the fact that the liberal side of washington so desires to keep the staus quo and continue to use judges that will hand down decisions based on their own opinions.

There are plenty of better examples of washington idiocy that absolutely want nothing more than money from pacs. I would never doubt that Bush may take money from them and end up being manipulated by them to a point. But, Bush is just the one in the office that the moment. You really should be considering the heavy offenders here. People like Kennedy. Have you ever noticed that Kennedy seems to have a lifetime job in his chair. This kinda thing is exactly what the framers of our Constitution did not want. How much PAC money does Kennedy take? lol.....and Kennedy isn't nearly the only one. You want to bash on Bush. Tell me, who made Kennedy king? Lifetime? No president gets more than eight years. How much real damage has Kennedy (in his drunkeness) done? Why don't you actually "use" your internet connection and learn a little about some of the crippling things that Clinton did to hurt our beloved technology? Before I believe ANYTHING Gore says about the net, I would more likely believe that he just wants to "look" good. How much PAC money did the Clinton-Gore team get?

I want to make myself quite clear on this. I don't trust ANY politition. Liberal or Conservative. They are ALL corrupt. If that corruption doesn't exist before they get to washington, Washington will definately put it there. I don't agree with some of what Bush does, but Gore in office would have been like trying to polish a turd. I will never hold Bush up as a saint, but at the same time.....

You should not forget that it was the MPAA/RIAA that brought the federal government into this in the first place.

How much PAC money was there given to washington liberals by the MPAA/RIAA long before Bush ever came to Washington? How much of "that" PAC money went to the FCC to further the restrictive nature of the FCC? Before Bush came to Washington.

True.. true

As much as i agree the with first post.. the second is more likely to be true..

Bush has time and time again proven that Big money is the only thing he cares about.. the courts struck it down.. but Bush and Congress will take millions of dollars in lobbying money and then hide/sneak it into a bill to protect his intrests.

Sorry to say.. but anyone that thinks america stands for fairness and justice is wrong..

We are a country with a court system ruled by personal opinions of corrupt judges, and justice is dolled out based on how much money you have and who you are connected with.. and right now.. the rule of the land is Bush and his money/power friends.

So much for the pledge of allegiance.. "with liberty and justice for all" seems to have gone by the wayside to "with facisim and limited personal freedoms defined by a small minority of goverment and rich people for all".

Fatalistic?

>Bush has time and time again proven that Big money is the only
>thing he cares about.. the courts struck it down.. but Bush and
>Congress will take millions of dollars in lobbying money and then
>hide/sneak it into a bill to protect his intrests.

Maybe so, but average people (voters) react when things affect them personally. The changes the GOP are now trying to push hit too close to home, and many voters are beginning to have serious doubts about direction. Check out todays polls on Social Security. An overwhelming majority doesn't want it touched. The GOP does so at its own peril.

The HD recording issue is very similar. Do not tell Joe Sixpack that he CANNOT record his Raiders game in HD and view it later on whatever device he chooses in broadcast quality.

That's the issue, and if congress sides with the MPAA on it, you don't think Joe Sixpack will remember that in 2006?

[Prndll]

Incase you haven't noticed.....

The judges that are causing the problems were not put there by Bush. The whole point in the contraversy surrounding Bush's nominated judges deal with the fact that the liberal side of washington so desires to keep the staus quo and continue to use judges that will hand down decisions based on their own opinions.

There are plenty of better examples of washington idiocy that absolutely want nothing more than money from pacs. I would never doubt that Bush may take money from them and end up being manipulated by them to a point. But, Bush is just the one in the office that the moment. You really should be considering the heavy offenders here. People like Kennedy. Have you ever noticed that Kennedy seems to have a lifetime job in his chair. This kinda thing is exactly what the framers of our Constitution did not want. How much PAC money does Kennedy take? lol.....and Kennedy isn't nearly the only one. You want to bash on Bush. Tell me, who made Kennedy king? Lifetime? No president gets more than eight years. How much real damage has Kennedy (in his drunkeness) done? Why don't you actually "use" your internet connection and learn a little about some of the crippling things that Clinton did to hurt our beloved technology? Before I believe ANYTHING Gore says about the net, I would more likely believe that he just wants to "look" good. How much PAC money did the Clinton-Gore team get?

I want to make myself quite clear on this. I don't trust ANY politition. Liberal or Conservative. They are ALL corrupt. If that corruption doesn't exist before they get to washington, Washington will definately put it there. I don't agree with some of what Bush does, but Gore in office would have been like trying to polish a turd. I will never hold Bush up as a saint, but at the same time.....

You should not forget that it was the MPAA/RIAA that brought the federal government into this in the first place.

How much PAC money was there given to washington liberals by the MPAA/RIAA long before Bush ever came to Washington? How much of "that" PAC money went to the FCC to further the restrictive nature of the FCC? Before Bush came to Washington.

[sarahintampa]

Finally!

The FCC does want to RULE THE WORLD, don't they? Ha! How quickly will they appeal this?


Sarah
sarahintampa.com

[sarahintampa]

Finally!

The FCC does want to RULE THE WORLD, don't they? Ha! How quickly will they appeal this?


Sarah
sarahintampa.com

Head Congress off at the pass!

See here for how to help stop Congress from stepping in before it even becomes an issue:

http://commonsmusic.com/blog/?p=21

Head Congress off at the pass!

See here for how to help stop Congress from stepping in before it even becomes an issue:

http://commonsmusic.com/blog/?p=21

[Stating]

This "War" Will Fail Too

I expect that the MPAA and other lobby groups will keep going back, spreading more money to grease the wheels, until they get what they want. But like the government's war on drugs, war on poverty, war on cancer, war on war, attempts to prevent consumers from timeshifting will fail. It will take all of a week for some enterprising Chinese or Indians to make and sell digital-analog-digital capture/copy devices for $39.95 over the Internet. Sure, it will be a little more inconvenient but it will solve the problem.

[zizzybaloobah]

Indeed!

If you can see it and/or hear it, you can copy it. It's that simple. Most people don't care if the copy is inferior to the original.

[Stating]

This "War" Will Fail Too

I expect that the MPAA and other lobby groups will keep going back, spreading more money to grease the wheels, until they get what they want. But like the government's war on drugs, war on poverty, war on cancer, war on war, attempts to prevent consumers from timeshifting will fail. It will take all of a week for some enterprising Chinese or Indians to make and sell digital-analog-digital capture/copy devices for $39.95 over the Internet. Sure, it will be a little more inconvenient but it will solve the problem.

[zizzybaloobah]

Indeed!

If you can see it and/or hear it, you can copy it. It's that simple. Most people don't care if the copy is inferior to the original.

[montgomeryburns]

Fire Molly Wood

Fire Molly Wood.

[montgomeryburns]

Fire Molly Wood

Fire Molly Wood.

[Gunga_Dean]

Judicial Activist --- Not

Judicial activism would make a law or find/deny a right that doesn't constitutionally exist. In this case, finding that the govermental power doesn't go that far is hardly activism. It's strict constructionism. Which, of course, I favor. :)

[Gunga_Dean]

Judicial Activist --- Not

Judicial activism would make a law or find/deny a right that doesn't constitutionally exist. In this case, finding that the govermental power doesn't go that far is hardly activism. It's strict constructionism. Which, of course, I favor. :)