Comments on: Feds uncloak the Patriot Act

As debate begins on portions of the law set to expire, officials summarize how the "sneak and peek" provision has been used.

[DemiHampster]

Ben Franklin said it best

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little
security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin

[aroyce]

You are correct

Unfortunately, most Americans have no clue about their own history let alone the history of the world. Someday we will wake and wonder what happened and how big brother got to be so big and mean...and it will be completely our own fault for being asleep.

[Andrew J Glina]

Little

Depends on your definition of the word I suppose. Even so, using 200 year old quotes to reflect on today is a bit suspect. Who knows what an impressive man like Benjamin Franklin would think of todays world?

Yeah but.....

In this case, it is the INDIVIDUAL that is giving up a little liberty, in order for SOCIETY to gain a little security.

Having spent the first 2/3rds of my life in England, before spending the last 1/3rd of my life in the US & becoming a (proud) first generation American, I have noticed many people placing individual freedoms ahead of the best interests of society. There are times when you just gotta take one for the team.

That having been said, I think the "Patriot" Act is a clusterfork.

[pcLoadLetter]

Scary

That a federal agency could use measures that goes against everything the constitution and bill of rights stands for is more scary then 1000 wannabe bin ladens.

[NWLB]

I love the Patriot Act.

I love the Patriot Act. I say this of my own free will. I love the Patriot Act. I say this of my own free will. I love the Patriot Act. I say this of my own free will. I love the Patriot Act. I say this of my own free will. I say this of my own free will. I say this of my own free will.

In loyalty to the state I am.....

NWLB ;)
http://www.NWLBnet.blogspot.com

[Stating]

Raymond, Listen To Me

Raymond. Let's play a game of solitaire. What card do I have in my hand here? The Queen of Hearts. The Queen of Hearts. The Queen of Hearts.

[Stating]

Disinformation Is A Much Bigger Problem

The insertion of disinformation into all media via planted stories, anonymous leaks, and reporters on the payroll is a much bigger problem. If you control the access points -- the gatekeepers, you control everything. This has been going on for a very long time here, it's down to a science.

Recently, ABC News ran a special on UFOs. The most useful thing they reported is that Project Blue Book was hatched to explictly discredit any and all UFO stories. There was a pretense of objectivity, by finally even Hynek figured out what a sham it was. He was paid for 20 years to explain away everything unexplainable as swamp gas or weather balloons.

Then of course there is the recent massive Iraq WMD deception. We are supposed to believe that it was all just a mistake by incompetant Intell bureacrats. Leading up to the war, there were estimates from Intell that Iraq had "thousands of tons" of chemical weapons. Think of it. Thousands of tons.

Makes you long for the days of Nixon, when crooks were REAL men.