Comments on: EMI: We don't use rootkits

Record label claims its copy-restriction software can easily be uninstalled and is not hidden like that used by rival Sony.

[coisa]

DRM and CD Performanc

Recently purchased the Dolly Parton CD, Those were the days. The music is distored when played on my brand new Sony DVD Player. The CD plays ok on another player.

This is DRM at its worst. My music collection is almost 2000 cd's and the collection is not likely to grow with this consumer abuse experience

[lewissalem]

Have you found...

..that Sony in general has taken a stubborn stance twords formats and DRM? Any owner of a mini-disk player can relate with what I'm saying. Converting an MP3 to ALTRAC format? Everytime a conversion is done, quality is diminished.

[Peet42]

One way around Sony's DRM...

Play your CD on a Linux box. :)

[dam7ri]

I read so much about this...

that I am going to vomit. On the Molly Wood article, 260+ people said that they were going to boycott Sony, including the PS3, laptops, and tv's. But before they go out and buy Xbox 360's, I would like to point out that Microsoft's shotty product was used as a vehicle for Sony's abusive actions, and Microsoft should be held accountable as well.

After digging through all the links in M.s Wood's article, I found out that the unsuspecting public was used by Sony, in a ploy to lobby Apple to de-proprietize the iPod., and on top of that, the rootkit has no effect on Macs. Duh! Anyone who has a Mac most likely uses an iPod for music on the go. This rootkit targeted the iPod, yet it effects every computer, whether you have an iPod or not. I use a Sony MD player, on a Windows box, but not anymore. I am done with both companies. Sony and Microsux can kiss my money good-bye.

I'm switching to Linux (Ubuntu looks really interesting, or maybe I'll go with Xandros or Mandriva)and I'll just go back to a portable CD player, not made by Sony.

[quicktiming]

Bypassing It Altogether...

As I understand it, you can eliminate the installkation of the DRM by simply holding down the shift key when you insert the CD, or turning off Autorun. I'm not sure -- since I use a Mac and as with most "viruses", I seem to be immune.

As far as a boycott of Sony/BMG is concerned, I'mm all for it. I'm calling for one in my own podcast, "Techpolitics", but I think it should go further than simply requiring new CDs to be mastered without the DRM -- it should require that all current CDs be remastered and re-shipped without the DRM installed. The best way to combat this kind of nonsense is to make it cost them money.

[n3td3v]

Hacker response likely

Its speculated that hackers will climb on a Sony bandwagon.

[ericbrian]

Stop buying CDs!

All I can say is stop buying CDs! Until these record companies stop treating me like a crimal, I won't buy any CD. I haven't bought one since 2000.

[R. U. Sirius]

I agree

I quit buying CD's once the RIAA (which BTW is simply a front for the record companies) started their P2P legal proceedings by suing their customers.

Why would I want to buy ANYTHING from an industry that decides to sue its customers? Answer is that I don't.

And on the issue of piracy, most of the people who use P2P are going to be kids who like to boast a large "collection" but don't listen to 90% of the content they acquire. I always thought that "piracy" was the act of stealing and reselling for personal gain. Yet I have seen almost nothing in the media discussing this aspect. Why?

One other point, if I buy a CD or DVD and share the physical disc with my neighbor, is that "piracy"?

[Marcus Westrup]

This could be one of thee things

First, EMI is being honest and their products don't use anything as invasive as a root kit. I hope this is true, but I'm not convinced.
Second, some EMI partners are indeed using such tricks, and upper management does not have a clue.
Or, EMI is using a root kit, but they call it something else: "Sub level evaluation process" or some other spin-doctoring dribble.

You might suspect that I am yet another jade customer who is tired of recording companies playing these games.

[n3td3v]

Sony don't hack people

Artist: Goldie Lookin' Chain

Song: Sony Don't Hack People Hackers Do

Lyrics:

Come out with your hands on your head
Turn the rap music off and step away from the stereo
Put the hacking album down,
leave MC Hammer alone - turn it off
What?

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Ask any politician and he'll tell you it's true
It's a fact, music makes you violent
Like Michael Jackson telling little Timmy to be silent
You don't believe me, here's my hype
Offer me the record and I'll show you the type
Of cyber criminal this rap **** is breeding
It's a fact that MC Hammer left me bleeding
Vanilla Ice made my mother say, "__"
If i stuck with 'UB40' then i woulda been in love
But I didn't, I got involved
Cypress ******* Hill taught me to make a ******* bomb
So I started, I bought another tape
The mob boys snapped me, my **** and balls ache
So remember script kids till the head doubles up
Sony don't hack people, it's just hackers

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
I seen it in a documentary on BBC 2
hacked to death outside Hyper Value
Guns blazing like Michael Caine in Zulu
Gunners statistics are sometimes misleading
The type of criminal hacking is breeding
Shot in the chest no one here stopped the bleeding
2-4 to base over, are you receiving?
Remember rap tracks in '87
scott the lots up in hip-hop heaven
Biggie and Tupac R.I.P.
Even Jam Master Jay's in the cemetery

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
I'm a ******* hacker and I might hack you
As a hacker I'm teachin' you a lesson
AK-47 is a Smith and Weston
Just say no, just like Sammo
Bulletproof vest, two guns and ammo
Hip-Hop gangsta tripping
Even Eminem's into pistol whipping
Solid Crew told we're the ones
P. Diddy, J. Lo in a nightclub with a gun
Heard Snoop Dogg now wants to bust a cap
Sony don't hack people, it's just hackers

One, two - yo, face my shoe
My name's Mike Balls and I'm coming through
cyber crimes, stabbin' and burgalarization
Is on the rise all across the nation
The safety's off and the pistol's aimed
The Yardies and the Mafia always get blamed
Politician's ashamed, and they haven't got a clue
hacking is more deadly than ******* kung-fu

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop

Sony don't hack people, hackers do
From Bristol Zoo to B&Q
I wanna hack, I wanna hack
Heard it in a song, now I'm into cyber crime
It's a sign of the times like Prince changing his name
You gotta have a shooter to be in the hack game
Like 'Michael Lown' about to stop
Sony don't hack people, it's just hacking

[Chorus]
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop
Sony don't hack people, hackers do
Summon the police
Woop Woop Woop

[heystoopid]

Trust me? where have I heard that before!

This statement is from the people that implement cactus, non audio redbook standard cd, which has problems playing in most car audio cd and top of the line CD players like NAD etc, due to it's inherent defects. Now, they say trust me, we promise not to do what SONY BMG has done to break the law, throughout the world with their very illegal software, which included undocumented phone home feature as well and joke uninstaller, which reinstalls the DRM in visible format second time arround! Further, they have donated a set of tools, for use by by hackers/phishers/trojans to install devious undetectable malware. No EMI is waiting in the wings for INTEL/AMD/Microsoft to implement the Trusted Computing Module(something like the 1st gen apple intel mac)to strike, without warning! Trust me! No these record company conglomerates, have short change recording artists for decades stealing/diverting royalties and other payments due!, with their multifaceted/duplicitous books, so shy should they change! Besides all politicians say trust me, and we know how often, they keep their pronises! Ha ha, we gotcha again!

[PatrynXX]

RIAA (or Recording Industry Against Artists)

A friend of mine has decided to stop buying Sony Music cd's altogether unless they fix this nonsense. Although I think that's a bit extreme. I will have to say Sony may have cross the line here. Since when has the buying consumer become the enemy? I thought they wanted to go after the supposedly illegal downloader. (although that is a matter of opinion.) But of course some matter of opinion becomes law. As in the case with Grokster closing today. They still around? O_O Completely forgot about them. I'll rely on allofmp3.com for now. More and more I use them to buy music first to see if I like it, (or use them to make backup's of legally owned cd's. sounds silly, but after Sony's tactic, might be a safer alternative to make my legal backup.) I dislike storing my expensive cd's in a car. Although some do enter, the pricier one's do not.

[ray82609]

I guess we're all criminals

Sony seems to think all of it's customers are criminals. I think it's a crime to putsomething on my computer I can't remove without corrupting my computer. I think we can make an impact by not buying any Sony/BMG products through the Christmas season.
-Ray

[Ucidalin]

T-Shirts

Has anyone come out with t-shirts on this subject yet?
Like "Have you been hacked by Sony today?", "Has your CD hacked your PC today?" or a Circle/Slash thru DMR Rootkit.
I think I would wear one so people would ask me what was talking about. People need to be educated.

[bilacuda]

CAN SONY'S INFECTED CDs BE COPIED?

I have used Easy CD-DA Extractor to copy EMI?s COPY CONTROLLED CDs.

http://www.poikosoft.com/

The copied discs play everywhere. I don?t know if it kills the Sony worm, but I can't risk damaging my computer and leaving it open to hackers. Arrogant Sony won't cough-up the damage.

Also see comments on Amazon with new Neil Diamond CD on Sony:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009NSCVC/qid=1131469729/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-7982133-2892159?v=glance&s=music

Neil Diamond has the clout to stop this.

[bilacuda]

CAN SONY'S INFECTED CDs BE COPIED?

I have used Easy CD-DA Extractor to copy EMI?s COPY CONTROLLED CDs.

http://www.poikosoft.com/

The copied discs play everywhere. I don?t know if it kills the Sony worm, but I can't risk damaging my computer and leaving it open to hackers. Arrogant Sony won't cough-up the damage.

Also see comments on Amazon with new Neil Diamond CD on Sony:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009NSCVC/qid=1131469729/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-7982133-2892159?v=glance&s=music

Neil Diamond has the clout to stop this.

[Mendz]

Appalling!

Read this: http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-012.htm. Or listen to the podcast linked in the same page. Sony is agreeably appalling! They should've been more responsible.

[ArbitraryThinker]

Lack of DRM expiration = Unconstitutional

The combination of DRM, the DMCA, and the lack of a system to expire copyright is clearly unconstitutional. Copyrights are granted for a limited time. The DMCA makes circumvention illegal and the encryption systems in use do not expire when the copyright expires. Therefore the copyright effectively never expires and fair use cannot occur.

[monyl]

EMI discs DO have hidden processes running

Ask them for a complete list of files that their CDS-300 (from Macrovision) copy protection installs on your PC. In any case, just install Musicmatch to rip these discs - it works...

[monyl]

Macrovision probably lied to EMI

as they are struggling with share prices and redundancies at the moment. Likeley that the product manager for CD copy protection made up this bull (that apple were working on it) and EMI bought it, shame on them