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The ubiquitous search engine makes it easy to find unprotected personal information, CNET News.com has learned.

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Google not the problem
by August 4, 2004 6:16 AM PDT
The problem is NOT Google. The problem is the individuals who post social security numbers, credit card numbers, and other personal information on the Internet (only the world's largest public forum).

Google does not break security to get information... it only picks up information already posted. For example, one city recently published the information (with social security number) of people who had failed to pay their taxes.

Police reports including credit card numbers have been posted on the Internet. The same cops probably know better than to post their police reports on the outside of the police station.

Put the blame where it belongs! On the authors!
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Google not the problem
by August 4, 2004 6:16 AM PDT
The problem is NOT Google. The problem is the individuals who post social security numbers, credit card numbers, and other personal information on the Internet (only the world's largest public forum).

Google does not break security to get information... it only picks up information already posted. For example, one city recently published the information (with social security number) of people who had failed to pay their taxes.

Police reports including credit card numbers have been posted on the Internet. The same cops probably know better than to post their police reports on the outside of the police station.

Put the blame where it belongs! On the authors!
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How do I?
by sdencar August 4, 2004 8:47 AM PDT
How would I search for my credit card number on google? I'm not going to enter MY number to see if it comes up because other sites, like dogpile, let you see what other people have searched for. so if my card number wasn't on before, it might be once I enter it. Any ideas?
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Partial
by Fray9 August 4, 2004 8:57 AM PDT
Dont input the complete number just do a search for the first 8 or 10 digits. Without the full number anyone seeing your query would still have to resort to guessing it but the partial string would return very few numbers one of which would be yours if it was indeed leaked to the internet.
How do I?
by sdencar August 4, 2004 8:47 AM PDT
How would I search for my credit card number on google? I'm not going to enter MY number to see if it comes up because other sites, like dogpile, let you see what other people have searched for. so if my card number wasn't on before, it might be once I enter it. Any ideas?
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Partial
by Fray9 August 4, 2004 8:57 AM PDT
Dont input the complete number just do a search for the first 8 or 10 digits. Without the full number anyone seeing your query would still have to resort to guessing it but the partial string would return very few numbers one of which would be yours if it was indeed leaked to the internet.
why is it google's problem
by kxmmxk August 4, 2004 11:00 AM PDT
I don't understand the recent attacks by CNET on Google. Google is merely a search engine that goes out and finds what ever is out there on the web. The are hardly responsible for what's out there, nor should they censor information. You get into what's okay and what's not by whose opinion.

It's the responsibility of the companies that did not have sufficient security to protect people's information.

It's the responsiblity of companies such as visa to do daily search's of what is out there, close those accounts, and issue new accounts to the users.

None of this has anything to do with Google, other than the fact they were the engine that was used to search the ether.
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why is it google's problem
by kxmmxk August 4, 2004 11:00 AM PDT
I don't understand the recent attacks by CNET on Google. Google is merely a search engine that goes out and finds what ever is out there on the web. The are hardly responsible for what's out there, nor should they censor information. You get into what's okay and what's not by whose opinion.

It's the responsibility of the companies that did not have sufficient security to protect people's information.

It's the responsiblity of companies such as visa to do daily search's of what is out there, close those accounts, and issue new accounts to the users.

None of this has anything to do with Google, other than the fact they were the engine that was used to search the ether.
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How quick Microsoft can manipulate TI press ?!
by josir August 4, 2004 12:16 PM PDT
It's impressive how tech journalist are "discovering" a lot of problems in Google search.

And nobody links those critics with Microsoft.

In the Fear Nation, governed by Nazi Bush and Mr.Gates, the next step is saying that Google is a terrorist cell...
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Why is it that someone always blames
by August 4, 2004 3:33 PM PDT
Microsoft? I wonder if they ever did a google search for security problems with their beloved linux? I have some beefs with MS, but to blame all things that happen on them is about a sensable as saying the world if flat! Grow up! MS is not the only company out there with problems with their software, and that includes you very own favorite OS!
How quick Microsoft can manipulate TI press ?!
by josir August 4, 2004 12:16 PM PDT
It's impressive how tech journalist are "discovering" a lot of problems in Google search.

And nobody links those critics with Microsoft.

In the Fear Nation, governed by Nazi Bush and Mr.Gates, the next step is saying that Google is a terrorist cell...
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Why is it that someone always blames
by August 4, 2004 3:33 PM PDT
Microsoft? I wonder if they ever did a google search for security problems with their beloved linux? I have some beefs with MS, but to blame all things that happen on them is about a sensable as saying the world if flat! Grow up! MS is not the only company out there with problems with their software, and that includes you very own favorite OS!
What great timing!
by dave95 August 4, 2004 1:11 PM PDT
How much MS is paying you. Don't worry, we wont tell them! Its so funny how all of a sertain this comes out when Microsoft is lunching their search site.
makes you go, Hmmmmmm.
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What great timing!
by dave95 August 4, 2004 1:11 PM PDT
How much MS is paying you. Don't worry, we wont tell them! Its so funny how all of a sertain this comes out when Microsoft is lunching their search site.
makes you go, Hmmmmmm.
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Google = P2P should be illegal!
by Tex Murphy PI August 4, 2004 2:41 PM PDT
Thanks to the ever wise Senator Orin Hatch, we can now take out Google AND P2P networks with one quick and far-reaching legislation.

Since everyone knows that P2P networks can be used to break the law, so can Google! So what if Google can be used to search for helpful pages on the internet - the mere fact that it can be used to search out credit card numbers, and <gasp!> simple things like how to make a Nuclear / Biological / Chemical weapon is surely a sign that Google is the tool of "evil-doers" everywhere!

Go Orin!!! We're on your side!

P.S. Please outlaw the internet while you're at it - since it can also be used to break the law.

Boy, this country is getting dumber and dumber by the second.
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First realsistic response to question!!
by August 4, 2004 3:37 PM PDT
Good points! Perhaps what we need is for them to outlaw MS Windows, and that way the uppercrust tekies can take over and we will never again have a problem on the net!! Anyone want to buy some ocean front property in Knasas?
Google = P2P should be illegal!
by Tex Murphy PI August 4, 2004 2:41 PM PDT
Thanks to the ever wise Senator Orin Hatch, we can now take out Google AND P2P networks with one quick and far-reaching legislation.

Since everyone knows that P2P networks can be used to break the law, so can Google! So what if Google can be used to search for helpful pages on the internet - the mere fact that it can be used to search out credit card numbers, and <gasp!> simple things like how to make a Nuclear / Biological / Chemical weapon is surely a sign that Google is the tool of "evil-doers" everywhere!

Go Orin!!! We're on your side!

P.S. Please outlaw the internet while you're at it - since it can also be used to break the law.

Boy, this country is getting dumber and dumber by the second.
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First realsistic response to question!!
by August 4, 2004 3:37 PM PDT
Good points! Perhaps what we need is for them to outlaw MS Windows, and that way the uppercrust tekies can take over and we will never again have a problem on the net!! Anyone want to buy some ocean front property in Knasas?
Google & Peer-to-peer Networks
by August 5, 2004 3:09 PM PDT
From Article: "The firm has legally positioned itself as an intermediary of content beyond its control, which releases it from being held responsible for any content the company archives or to which it links."

So how is peer-to-peer networks any different? Why are they being targeted and held responsible for the content that is not theirs?

I guess its all because of what people like and dislike. They choose to go after and shut down the things they dont like. because really i dont see any difference. I dont see anyone trying to shut down google because they link to a site that has copyrighted material!
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Google & Peer-to-peer Networks
by August 5, 2004 3:09 PM PDT
From Article: "The firm has legally positioned itself as an intermediary of content beyond its control, which releases it from being held responsible for any content the company archives or to which it links."

So how is peer-to-peer networks any different? Why are they being targeted and held responsible for the content that is not theirs?

I guess its all because of what people like and dislike. They choose to go after and shut down the things they dont like. because really i dont see any difference. I dont see anyone trying to shut down google because they link to a site that has copyrighted material!
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Nagasthra-Novel approach to Credit Card Security
by nagkumar123 September 20, 2004 11:19 AM PDT
Hi!

Nagasthra is Novel approach to over come the design flaws of current Credit card Transactions. This idea has been presented to Nokia and the same has been well rewarded by Nokia in the year 2000. Full details could be found at http://www.geocities.com/nagkumar.rm

Regards,
Nagendra
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Nagasthra and Paymate
by nagkumar123 September 6, 2006 11:18 PM PDT
The paymate.co.in, looks same as my idea to Nokia in the year 2000 (this was a part of waphothouse context). This ideas has won me First prize in india and details of the same are http://www.geocities.com/nagkumar.rm

Not sure, what paymate is patenting in this regard, as the idea was made public in the year 2000 only, If any one could help me finding the patent app, it would help.

Regards,
Raja Nagendra Kumar,
C.T.O
Nagasthra-Novel approach to Credit Card Security
by nagkumar123 September 20, 2004 11:19 AM PDT
Hi!

Nagasthra is Novel approach to over come the design flaws of current Credit card Transactions. This idea has been presented to Nokia and the same has been well rewarded by Nokia in the year 2000. Full details could be found at http://www.geocities.com/nagkumar.rm

Regards,
Nagendra
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Nagasthra and Paymate
by nagkumar123 September 6, 2006 11:18 PM PDT
The paymate.co.in, looks same as my idea to Nokia in the year 2000 (this was a part of waphothouse context). This ideas has won me First prize in india and details of the same are http://www.geocities.com/nagkumar.rm

Not sure, what paymate is patenting in this regard, as the idea was made public in the year 2000 only, If any one could help me finding the patent app, it would help.

Regards,
Raja Nagendra Kumar,
C.T.O
ok so...
by lenzouskij August 24, 2006 1:48 AM PDT
i am lazy.. didnt want to read it all.. so what do i search to find the cc numbers? i really want to buy **** right now and im broke. so if you steal any credit cards, let me kno. thnaks =)
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ok so...
by lenzouskij August 24, 2006 1:48 AM PDT
i am lazy.. didnt want to read it all.. so what do i search to find the cc numbers? i really want to buy **** right now and im broke. so if you steal any credit cards, let me kno. thnaks =)
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