Comments on: House rejects immunity for phone companies in spy suits

Drawing veto threats from White House, legislators OK spy law rewrite sans lawsuit protection for aids of government spying.

[chris_d]

"I truly am not that concerned about him." -GWB

I am sure glad the prez is working hard to get OBL so that we can have our civil liberties back!

[ecartman0]

What a joke

What a joke of a president, the worst ever. He rambles on about the trouble in Pakistan and the limiting of freedoms while he has done so much worse at home. Oh and you got to laugh at bushies complaint that Musharraf can't be military leader and wear the uniform while president. So is georgie jealous and wants a uniform too? He should go work at Chuck E Cheese and get a uniform suited to his leadership. Impeach bush now!, and cheney!

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[worsethannormal]

Worse than Pakistan?

I have no love for our current president and in my view he, along with most of the current Executive Branch, should be impeached without delayl. Today, infact, would be the day to start, and we could have it done by the end of business. And then we can move on to the criminal proceeding against them. I think hanging is still the prefered penalty for traitors, right?

But all that aside, I think saying "King" George (and he has declared "Divine Right" to rule the U.S. like kings before him) has done worse than Musharaf is a little hyperbolic and really doesn't help in reasoned arguments that this administration has broken the U.S. Constitution. At least Bush hasn't completely suspended the Constitution ... yet.

[jjesusfreak01]

Civil Rights

"The bill gives terrorists overseas more rights under the law, than individuals inside the U.S.," said Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), a ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee. "That is simply absurd."

I agree, this is absolutely absurd...why is our government giving us less rights that Osama Bin Laden. Doesnt the idiot who wrote this understand that he is essentially admitting to taking away our civil liberties?

[worsethannormal]

Are you sure

Have you read the bill? Are you sure that this is not just simply a "talking point?" (which both sides of the ailes are notorious for using to lie to the U.S. citizenry). Seems to me you believe this statement but not the other by the supporters of the bill that refute this claim. Whether this bill does what Mr. Smith says or not, I can not attest to since I have not read it and had time to sit down and consider it's implications. But, I doubt, neither have you.

Please, get the facts and not sound bites.

[WJeansonne]

Terrorist Huggers Win Again

I hope those who coddle terrorists like these activists do are the first one's to be blown up by Al Qaeda when they visit American again.

[umbrae]

Actually...

The real terrorist are the ones so filled with fear and hatred that they will let the government forgo any respect our liberties. If you don't want liberties than you might as well join a terrorist regime; since they more align with the government style you are looking for.

None of this helps protect the country. Remember none of the 9/11 terrorists did anything they could not do today.

[rcardona2k]

Give me Liberty or give me...

Fine by me. Give me Libery or give me death. We are not a oligarchy under King George (hmmm sounds familiar!).

The Executive Branch MUST respect the rule of law.

[Dalkorian]

try

WJeansonne offered this thought to the conversation:

"I hope those who coddle terrorists like these activists do are
the first one's to be blown up by Al Qaeda when they visit
American again."

Comments like that make me realize it's hard for people like you
to think on their own, but please - for the love of our great
nation - try.

Al Qaeda will visit America again WHEN BUSH INVITES THEM TO.
OBL isn't the true enemy of our nation, he's just a fairly
intelligent pissant nuisance. The true terrorists, the real enemies
of America, are currently residing in the White House itself.

Bush allowed 9/11 to happen to further his desire for war with
Iraq. He knew it was planned from the PDB given to him in early
August (a month before it happened). The FBI was already
investigating those involved, curious as to why they were taking
flying lessons but didn't seem concerned with how to land the
freakin plane. They *knew* they were here and knew they were
planning something, they even knew *what* they were planning.
What did they do to stop it?

Consider this - all this TSA security in the airports means
nothing when year after year security testers can sneak bomb
making materials past them and onto planes.

Answer me this - do you honestly believe our military is capable
of finding Saddam hiding in a spider hole in the middle of the
Iraqi desert, yet incompetent enough to not be able to find OBL
on top of a mountain?

Do you really feel safer now? It's time to wake up from this
nightmare WJeansonne and start to repair the damage this
incompetent nazi pseudo-president has done to us. The
alternative is to stay in the nightmare and wonder in 5 years
how we got to be the next nazi Germany.

[perfectblue97]

Proverb

There's a proverb, maybe you've heard it.

"Better to die free than to live as a slave"

Your ancestors fought and maybe even died so that you could live free from the tyranny of an oppressive government. Now you're virtually giving up all that they struggled for?

There are countless people out here in the real world, the free world, who would be the first in line to be killed in the next terrorist attack so that YOU could live in a free and open society.

People say that terrorists hate freedom, I say that giving up your freedoms to protect yourself from terrorism is the same thing as loosing to terrorism. Every time that the government spies on an innocent US citizen, it's another victory for terrorism. They don't need to take your freedom, you're giving it away. You're giving them a victory.

[The_Decider]

You should seriously consider moving to China

You just can't handle the consequences of living in a free society.

[Had_to_be_said]

Clearly some people have no problem with treasonous, corrupt, tyranny...

...I, however, am an American. And, in my opinion (and in the clearly-stated opinions of those that actually founded, and have fought for, this country) those, who are so clearly, supporting the effective abandonment of The -U.S. Constitution-... -The Rule of Law-... and every basic -Human-Freedom- (that those entail) are, at very best, craven little moronic-cowards... At worst, they ARE the very criminal-traitors who should be dealt with appropriately. In short, those that support "Illegal-Spying" and "Immunity" (for businesses that commit "Illegal Acts" -for- "the Government") ARE the "...domestic ...enemies" which we (as Americans) are supposed to "...defend against".

"Terrorism" isnt the real "threat"... Those, idiots and criminals, that are USING (or allowing) "terrorism" to destroy everything that the United States, stands for, ...are the REAL "enemy".

[FrankTurd]

Worst. President. Ever.

Worst. President. Ever.

Feel free Bushy to veto this, but as soon as you're gone, you entire administration and the criminals that run it will be probed, tried and jailed come 2008.

The phony president.