Comments on: Senators won't take away FBI surveillance power

Top Democrats and Republicans say they prefer oversight, rather than repealing part of Patriot Act used by FBI for illegal monitoring.

[Kevin Cotham]

Repeal it!

The act should have never been passed in the first place. Repeal it
and prosecute all those involved in the clearly illegal and
unconstitutional activities since it was passed! Start with G.W.
Bush.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin,
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

[PzkwVIb]

I second the motion

Repeal the (Un)patriot act. The entire bill is a travesty.

[ddesy]

Indeed!

Especially because the recipient can't even disclose information about the letter! There goes freedom of speech!

[Freiheit13]

No joke!

Wow, serious abuse of unchecked government authority? I can't believe it! Surely not in this government of, by and for the people. *wink* I can't imagine why our government would be hesitant to take away their absolute authority to do what they want when they want and to whomever they want without need for justification. Let's all wave our flags and pretend out government is actually working for us.

[Solaris_User]

Government is exempt from the law.

"The FBI's illegal use of secret methods to obtain confidential information.."

Congress: "Well *sure* its illegal.. but... ya know.. we just don't really care.. its for your own good, shut up.. the laws are for YOU not us."

[zanzzz]

Government in Contempt

From top to bottom we seem to have a Federal Government that feels the Constitution and the rule of law doesn't apply to them. The FBI has been violating laws for as long as its been in existence. The Bush Administration approves illegal surveillance and countermands each piece of legislation with "signing statements". Congress rushes to pass the "Patriot Act" twice and literally none of our elected officials bother to even read it before voting on it. Republicans act as enablers for all this monkey business while Democrats are content to mostly mouth mild admonishments.
What ever happened to accountability? It's time to remove the criminals and their enablers within the government. The problem starts at the top and until Bush/Cheney are impeached nothing of substance will change. They have set the stage for all these illegalities if not orchestrated them. Until examples are made of those in government that act above the law then we will only see bolder and more brazen disrespect for our system of government by those whose jobs are to uphold it. Don't expect any real changes soon.

[ddesy]

Impeachment

Impeachment would be the best answer right now, but unfortunately Bush isn't lying about sex right now. I guess major crimes are allowed!

[fafafooey]

Oooo - the kooks at moveon.org are gonna be mad!

Heh heh heh heh.

[Solaris_User]

You moron.

Open your eyes, this is not a partisan issue.

EVERYONE voted for it except one person. A near unanimous vote to exempt the federal police from the law.. tell me you don't have a problem with this?

What if the kooks get there people elected and they then can use these powers for political reasons? It's not just going to be used to hunt terrorists.

[Mark Greene]

These days unethical but lawful is just fine!

Nobody broke the law when Plame's name was leaked

Nobody broke the law when the DA's were fired

Nobody broke the law when the security letters were used for
non-counter-terrorism purposes

Nobody broke the law when they tortured people in allowable
ways

WE'VE BECOME PATHETIC!

This type of behavior, regardless of political affiliation, should
be completely unacceptable to us.

[Walt Connery]

Excuse me...but, uh...

...if what the FBI is doing is "illegal," then how is it that Senators like Leahy can allow the FBI to continue to do it? The author here needs to use his head for something other than a hat rack.

If it was truly "illegal" then that would make Leahy and the rest of them just as "guilty," wouldn't it? Probably, because the Senators are allowing the FBI to continue doing what it is doing, it means that in reality even Senators like Leahy believe the FBI is doing the job it's supposed to do to protect the population from terrorism--which is what the Patriot Act is all about--if the CNET author doesn't clearly understand its purpose.

Second, the article pretends that lots and lots of the security letters have been sent out by the FBI without bothering to specify that in total some 750 such letters were sent out by the FBI. Wow, out of 300 million Americans, those requests for information on 750 people just about covers everybody in the US, doesn't it? How shocking.

And last, the article cleverly omits the fact that the investigations were done for the express purpose of rooting out terrorists--not because the FBI wants to "spy" on people for grins and giggles--or some kind of kinky sex games, etc.

Basically, idiot "news" articles like this, which tell only a third of the story and manage to hopelessly slant even that incomplete fraction, are the reason why CNET no longer sits among my permanent bookmarks.

[ddesy]

Blind....

The Patriot Act doesn't protect anybody. Believing that it does is nothing more than fooling yourself.

Wake up and smell the stench of this administration!

[Dalkorian]

remember "Animal House"?

Being fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

[PzkwVIb]

750 is 750 too many

The principal is important wheter it it is 7 million, 750, or one. CNet reports about it as bad because it is. Frankly, if ther only way to protect us is to strip our civil liberties, then we don't want your protection.

[freemarket--2008]

The Knee-Jerk Act...

is a much more appropriate name.

Naming it the Patriot Act was an insult to the founders of this country. They who respected and valued the rights of the individual.

It makes me sick.

[Dr_Zinj]

Feingold the only brave one in the bunch.

Every damn one of the other congressment and senators who refused to overturn this act are cowards.
Couple of very apropo quotes from Abraham Lincoln:
?Our defense is in the preservation of the spirit which prizes liberty as a heritage of all men, in all lands, everywhere. Destroy this spirit and you have planted the seeds of despotism around your own doors.?
and
?America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.?
Patriot Act was the beginning of the End of the Great American Empire.