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There's a lot of things messed up there but you have to give time to get these improved. Which is why the question here is who will prevail in the future and to me India will continue to grow dramtically and take over China who's population is growing old.
China's GDP PPP is greater than Japan's
There's a lot of things messed up there but you have to give time to get these improved. Which is why the question here is who will prevail in the future and to me India will continue to grow dramtically and take over China who's population is growing old.
China's GDP PPP is greater than Japan's
Being an optimistic person I am sure I will be here to watch/learn/observe till 2025.
Being an optimistic person I am sure I will be here to watch/learn/observe till 2025.
your wearing. Go to you local walmart EVEYTHING is MADE IN
CHINA. Look what happened to the world markets in the last two
weeks, when China speaks the world markets listen and they
listen good. No different than when Allen Greenspan speaks the
world listens. Thats how a country measures it's status in the
world.
your wearing. Go to you local walmart EVEYTHING is MADE IN
CHINA. Look what happened to the world markets in the last two
weeks, when China speaks the world markets listen and they
listen good. No different than when Allen Greenspan speaks the
world listens. Thats how a country measures it's status in the
world.
2. Experience with highly sophiscated political and social organizations -- China has been developing such skills since its unfication 2000 years ago, and the whole Chinese society tend to be highly organized and highly efficient. These highly organized society can only be disrupted by extreme economic hardship, but they will get back to that state quickly once the economic hardship is alleviated. India never got the chance to develop such skills and experience because its development in history was constantly disrupted by invasions.
3. China has a self-sufficient industry, it can make pretty much everything by itself. The only exception is probably oil.
4. The infrastructure of China is light years ahead of India, about 200 millions internet users, 400 millions cell phone users, thousands miles of freeway construction EACH year. What does India have? Despite its world leading IT industry, the majority of Indian people still have no access to a computer.
5. China has made herself to world factory, this lifted hundreds of millions of her people out of poverty. The IT industry in India only benefits avery small number of elites.
6. Despite 5, China still leads India in almost all fields of science and technology.
7. Last, and the most important, since China's unification about 2000 years ago, it has been THE superpower of the world for at least 1000 years (Qin, Tang, Yuan, Ming, Qing dynasties). Only 150 years ago, the night before China was defeated by British, the Chinese GDP was 1/3 of the entire world. Chinese has been in the position, it was comfortable in that position, and it knows how to get it back. For India, it's a task that never achieved before
China has enough problems and will grow in future, while India is resolving these and is currently doing a good job. Its only a matter of time it catches up and then takes over.
2. Experience with highly sophiscated political and social organizations -- China has been developing such skills since its unfication 2000 years ago, and the whole Chinese society tend to be highly organized and highly efficient. These highly organized society can only be disrupted by extreme economic hardship, but they will get back to that state quickly once the economic hardship is alleviated. India never got the chance to develop such skills and experience because its development in history was constantly disrupted by invasions.
3. China has a self-sufficient industry, it can make pretty much everything by itself. The only exception is probably oil.
4. The infrastructure of China is light years ahead of India, about 200 millions internet users, 400 millions cell phone users, thousands miles of freeway construction EACH year. What does India have? Despite its world leading IT industry, the majority of Indian people still have no access to a computer.
5. China has made herself to world factory, this lifted hundreds of millions of her people out of poverty. The IT industry in India only benefits avery small number of elites.
6. Despite 5, China still leads India in almost all fields of science and technology.
7. Last, and the most important, since China's unification about 2000 years ago, it has been THE superpower of the world for at least 1000 years (Qin, Tang, Yuan, Ming, Qing dynasties). Only 150 years ago, the night before China was defeated by British, the Chinese GDP was 1/3 of the entire world. Chinese has been in the position, it was comfortable in that position, and it knows how to get it back. For India, it's a task that never achieved before
2. Highly sophisticated Political System : You gotta be kidding me, if you are taunting that with a One Party System. Again, India is as politically complex and socially diverese as china is
3. In late 1970s China did not have the Self-reliant industry. Ofcourse due to larger land-size China has better reserves than India in certain minerals.
4. Infrastructure : I have to give you that.
5. Ever heard of trickle down economics, India is getting started, but again as one of the short-commings of being Democratic you have to pander to political perceptions, if India reforms itself aggressively it could do something positive. But like this years budget there is a political temptation for Left of Center policy which halts reforms.
6. China leads India in Science and Technology. Well, the fact if you look at ethinicity, they are balanced, because papers published by Indians are usually from the ones studying in US Universities rather than Indian universities. That is where one gets the impression China is far ahead.
7. Ok India never was 33.33% of World GDP. But in 16th Century, the time when India was about be started colonized India had 25% of World GDP. The per-capita would be similar for India and China at this point of time. So, India was never far-off interms of Economy esp. till 16th Century - 17th Century.
OK, there are only few ignorant posts that compell me to post something so detailed. Again, I would believe the "Second comming of Christ" over a "Superpower India". But again, I could not stand this kind of taunting as if India is still in Dark Ages esp. if the argument is from a guy from china, who ia experiencing modern-day prosperity for just about 28yrs.
I am all for China being prosperous and their citizenry to have all the liberties. I hope that for everyone in the world, irrespective of their nationality.
Cheers!!!
What is your definition of that, may I ask? India is a the largest funtioning democracy in the world. Like any democracy it has it's flaws, but the very fact that a country of a billion people functions quite smoothly (and if you didn't know, India has more religious diversity than the US- ever heard of Zoroastrian? Or Indian-Jews?) is rather incredible. Go home and catch up on some reading that you should have done in high school.
2. Experience with highly sophiscated political and social organizations -- China has been developing such skills since its unfication 2000 years ago, and the whole Chinese society tend to be highly organized and highly efficient. These highly organized society can only be disrupted by extreme economic hardship, but they will get back to that state quickly once the economic hardship is alleviated. India never got the chance to develop such skills and experience because its development in history was constantly disrupted by invasions.
3. China has a self-sufficient industry, it can make pretty much everything by itself. The only exception is probably oil.
4. The infrastructure of China is light years ahead of India, about 200 millions internet users, 400 millions cell phone users, thousands miles of freeway construction EACH year. What does India have? Despite its world leading IT industry, the majority of Indian people still have no access to a computer.
5. China has made herself to world factory, this lifted hundreds of millions of her people out of poverty. The IT industry in India only benefits avery small number of elites.
6. Despite 5, China still leads India in almost all fields of science and technology.
7. Last, and the most important, since China's unification about 2000 years ago, it has been THE superpower of the world for at least 1000 years (Qin, Tang, Yuan, Ming, Qing dynasties). Only 150 years ago, the night before China was defeated by British, the Chinese GDP was 1/3 of the entire world. Chinese has been in the position, it was comfortable in that position, and it knows how to get it back. For India, it's a task that never achieved before
China has enough problems and will grow in future, while India is resolving these and is currently doing a good job. Its only a matter of time it catches up and then takes over.
2. Experience with highly sophiscated political and social organizations -- China has been developing such skills since its unfication 2000 years ago, and the whole Chinese society tend to be highly organized and highly efficient. These highly organized society can only be disrupted by extreme economic hardship, but they will get back to that state quickly once the economic hardship is alleviated. India never got the chance to develop such skills and experience because its development in history was constantly disrupted by invasions.
3. China has a self-sufficient industry, it can make pretty much everything by itself. The only exception is probably oil.
4. The infrastructure of China is light years ahead of India, about 200 millions internet users, 400 millions cell phone users, thousands miles of freeway construction EACH year. What does India have? Despite its world leading IT industry, the majority of Indian people still have no access to a computer.
5. China has made herself to world factory, this lifted hundreds of millions of her people out of poverty. The IT industry in India only benefits avery small number of elites.
6. Despite 5, China still leads India in almost all fields of science and technology.
7. Last, and the most important, since China's unification about 2000 years ago, it has been THE superpower of the world for at least 1000 years (Qin, Tang, Yuan, Ming, Qing dynasties). Only 150 years ago, the night before China was defeated by British, the Chinese GDP was 1/3 of the entire world. Chinese has been in the position, it was comfortable in that position, and it knows how to get it back. For India, it's a task that never achieved before
2. Highly sophisticated Political System : You gotta be kidding me, if you are taunting that with a One Party System. Again, India is as politically complex and socially diverese as china is
3. In late 1970s China did not have the Self-reliant industry. Ofcourse due to larger land-size China has better reserves than India in certain minerals.
4. Infrastructure : I have to give you that.
5. Ever heard of trickle down economics, India is getting started, but again as one of the short-commings of being Democratic you have to pander to political perceptions, if India reforms itself aggressively it could do something positive. But like this years budget there is a political temptation for Left of Center policy which halts reforms.
6. China leads India in Science and Technology. Well, the fact if you look at ethinicity, they are balanced, because papers published by Indians are usually from the ones studying in US Universities rather than Indian universities. That is where one gets the impression China is far ahead.
7. Ok India never was 33.33% of World GDP. But in 16th Century, the time when India was about be started colonized India had 25% of World GDP. The per-capita would be similar for India and China at this point of time. So, India was never far-off interms of Economy esp. till 16th Century - 17th Century.
OK, there are only few ignorant posts that compell me to post something so detailed. Again, I would believe the "Second comming of Christ" over a "Superpower India". But again, I could not stand this kind of taunting as if India is still in Dark Ages esp. if the argument is from a guy from china, who ia experiencing modern-day prosperity for just about 28yrs.
I am all for China being prosperous and their citizenry to have all the liberties. I hope that for everyone in the world, irrespective of their nationality.
Cheers!!!
What is your definition of that, may I ask? India is a the largest funtioning democracy in the world. Like any democracy it has it's flaws, but the very fact that a country of a billion people functions quite smoothly (and if you didn't know, India has more religious diversity than the US- ever heard of Zoroastrian? Or Indian-Jews?) is rather incredible. Go home and catch up on some reading that you should have done in high school.
100% eradication of poverty
Education for all
Self-support on all business sectors
More R&D centers
and much
That's all I can say...
Thanks,
Rishi Tandon
100% eradication of poverty
Education for all
Self-support on all business sectors
More R&D centers
and much
That's all I can say...
Thanks,
Rishi Tandon
While China has more of a "What? There's a world outside of China?" kind of attitude. Ok, so that's an overstatement. But China has much more invested inside of itself. A big thing that probably pushed them to the economic level they are at is all the American and other money going into China to build lots of cheap things. But as China's rich got richer, the cities developed and a middle class is forming. I don't know for sure that the middle class there is growning, but it seems like it to me, so correct me if needed. And with the middle class growing in China, then China's middle class can replace the American buying if America were to stop buying from China, for economic or political or consumer reasons. So China will be self supporting. Probably much like America was in the 19th and 20th century.
Although I'm not a global economic analyst, I would guess that the larger population of China, along with their political leaders, could create enough of a self supporting system that any global economic downturns effects would be lessened. While India seems to rely heavily on outside buying, making them very suceptable to the global economy.
While China has more of a "What? There's a world outside of China?" kind of attitude. Ok, so that's an overstatement. But China has much more invested inside of itself. A big thing that probably pushed them to the economic level they are at is all the American and other money going into China to build lots of cheap things. But as China's rich got richer, the cities developed and a middle class is forming. I don't know for sure that the middle class there is growning, but it seems like it to me, so correct me if needed. And with the middle class growing in China, then China's middle class can replace the American buying if America were to stop buying from China, for economic or political or consumer reasons. So China will be self supporting. Probably much like America was in the 19th and 20th century.
Although I'm not a global economic analyst, I would guess that the larger population of China, along with their political leaders, could create enough of a self supporting system that any global economic downturns effects would be lessened. While India seems to rely heavily on outside buying, making them very suceptable to the global economy.
They get wages; they become part of a regulated economy. Production line robots don't.
The increase in the military is not just about sabre rattling or threats. The new recruits and old soildiers are being paid. They become part of a regulated economy.
China is thereby creating an economy by putting people to work, paying them wages which they will then spend, and so it goes with new sources of disposable income becoming available.
Of course the US is paying for it all.
Look at the US-China trade imbalance, and how much US debt China is holding.
I have no comment as to how this came about and was not foreseen other than that US consumers want cheap goods and the administration is determined to let them have them.
One gets only what one is prepared to pay for. As for the ultimate cost -- ahh, that's really the question, isn't it?
They get wages; they become part of a regulated economy. Production line robots don't.
The increase in the military is not just about sabre rattling or threats. The new recruits and old soildiers are being paid. They become part of a regulated economy.
China is thereby creating an economy by putting people to work, paying them wages which they will then spend, and so it goes with new sources of disposable income becoming available.
Of course the US is paying for it all.
Look at the US-China trade imbalance, and how much US debt China is holding.
I have no comment as to how this came about and was not foreseen other than that US consumers want cheap goods and the administration is determined to let them have them.
One gets only what one is prepared to pay for. As for the ultimate cost -- ahh, that's really the question, isn't it?
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- by nuckelhedd March 7, 2007 5:15 PM PST
- And very interesting. Loved the part about "her" in the end there.
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