Comments on: Qwest calls for mandatory data retention laws

Broadband provider becomes first to embrace federal proposal to keep track of what its own customers are doing online.

[bobfuller30004]

Mandatory Voice Data Retention Also Needed

I applaud Qwest for embracing the US government's request and helping the US win the war on terror.

Now the US government needs to also push for mandatory voice data retention to further ensure our safety.

With companies like Qwest willing to work with the US government, the safety of the US will increase by leaps and bounds.

[mikele1]

Are you for real?

This has zip to do with the war on terror. How naive and simple of you to be taken in by the current administration.They have repeatedly shown a complete disregard for citizen's constitutionally guaranteed rights and with this kind of thinking they will continue to do so.

[FooKBush]

Are you High??

That is the dumbest thing I've heard Since we elected Bush.(and then of course he crowned him self king) If you want a government that monitors you and be your daddy move to russia or some place the care not about basic rights.If you beleave all of this fear mongering that our curent administration is spreading and useing to break law after law, and to enact laws that give them more power to micro manage american life, again move to russia we dont need you here.

Government needs less power not more, so I ask again are you high?

regards,

FookBush

[Amazingant]

IP addresses

"Because Internet addresses remain a relatively scarce commodity, ISPs tend to allocate them to customers from a pool based on if a computer is in use at the time. (Two standard techniques used are the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol and Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet.)"

Haha, I know how true this is. I've setup a program to hold a connection 24-7, and for the last 5 months my ISP hasn't changed my IP address because of it. It's a great thing to remember in case you want to run a web server from your home computer.

[mikele1]

There is no excuse!

There is no excuse to violate my privacy or anyone else's and her lame rationale is exactly that-LAME.

[chuck_whealton]

Re: There is no excuse!

What are you so worried about?

Why do people sit there and kick and stomp and say "don't invade my privacy" when most of them aren't even doing anything wrong to begin with?

What is the big deal?

Is your privacy worth more than children being taken advantage of? More so than people's lives ending because of terrorist activity?

Certainly, the chances are you're not doing anything illegal...

So what is the problem? Why is it so horrible to retain records in case they're needed? What's the big deal? Chances are, it won't even affect you.

Charles R. Whealton
Charles Whealton @ pleasedontspam.com

[scdecade]

Qwest supports self-preserving barriers to entry

That's all this is. Here's how our society now works. The politicians scare the pants off of the people to justify their own existence and generate support for new laws. The government then giddily hints that compliance with these as yet unwritten laws will fall most heavily on those enetities with the most money, i.e. corporate america. Those corporate entities then pump money into both sides of the government duopoly (republicrats and democans) to make sure "their opinions get heard." Then corporations (under the auspices of the government) create a giant hairball of purposely vague laws. Bush rubberstamps all laws; he hasn't vetoed any of them as yet. These rules then get implemented at great cost so that new competitors are effectively prevented from entering markets thereby screwing consumers and regular folks everywhere. Welcome to the USA now pretend like you like it or we'll ship you to Gitmo.

[MrHandle]

Pretty bleak

lol--pretty much.
"The politicians scare the pants off of the people to justify their own existence and generate support for new laws" Isn't that a form of terrorism? lol
Yeah, of course deep pocket Quest wants this. Then, it's prohibitively expensive to break into the business. What a way to eliminate potential competition.

While we're at it, lets put these restrictions on any search companies, so another startup like Google was a short while ago can't afford to get into the business. OMG, someone might type in something strange into a search engine--we'll have to keep track of that; it could cause the downfall of our society lol. The human race has been around for 1,000's of years. We're not going to spontaneously explode if we don't keep track of everything that everyone does.

[Earl]

All of the Breaking of the constitutional laws

is not going to change a thing. Just like when they tried to stop drinking the bootlegger just when a way of doing things.
All it is hurting is the America.

How can we go to another contry (fight their wars) & teach Democracy & Freedom when we are destroying owr own as fast as it can be done?

Terror is something we have alway fought agaist. It may have not in the same form as today, but we once fought Britin,France,Hitler,Russia,& Japan because of terror another would rule,& we would lose owr rights. Now it is being taken away.

I would like to know which birdbrain is going to know what I mean when I am talking to someone else. Are we now going to rewrite the Dictionary so some words can not be spoken?

[Earl]

All of the Breaking of the constitutional laws

is not going to change a thing. Just like when they tried to stop drinking the bootlegger just went another way of doing things.
All it is hurting is the American People.

How can we go to another contry (fight their wars) & teach Democracy & Freedom when we are destroying owr own as fast as it can be done?

Terror is something we have alway fought agaist. It may have not in the same form as today, but we once fought Britin,France,Hitler,Russia,& Japan because of terror another would rule,& we would lose owr rights. Now it is being taken away.

I would like to know which birdbrain is going to know what I mean when I am talking to someone else. Are we now going to rewrite the Dictionary so some words can not be spoken?

[heystoopid]

Ha Ha!

As Nelson would say, Ha Ha!

It is so easy to defeat, it becomes a pointless waste of data space!

Oh well, all those Firefox and greasemonkey script kiddy users, will be laughing their heads off by now!

Let all the fools and idiots have an absolute belief in their own silly propaganda!

The 'Peter Principle' rocks on!!!!

[ajbright]

Wonderful

So Qwest is assuming that all their broadband customers are potential paedophiles.

I got another idea, why not have video cameras inside everyone's home - just in case they do something illegal.

Maybe we should have all phone calls recorded - just in case everyone in the US is a terrorist.

Perhaps all mail should be opened and read by the Dept. Homeland Security - just in case someone has something to hide.

Or should all men be forced to give up their DNA to a national database - just in case they turn out to be rapists.

Perhaps all your banking information should be handed over to the government - just in case you use your bank to launder drug money.

[Jackson Cracker]

Qwest just wants to cash in

Qwest doesn't do anything purely for the sake of the country.
When they say "we want to be at the table" they mean they want
to lobby Congress to include a provision allowing them to pass
along the cost (and then some) to their customers. So along with
"federal access charge", "universal service charge" and all the
various other extras you'll soon see a "data retention fee" added
to your bill.

[lenn5]

So ISPs don't save logs on what web pages....

you visit? What exactly do ISPs then keep logs of for cable modem
subscribers?

l

[onedeej]

RE: So ISPs don't save logs on what web pages

Actually, I personally work for a Cable ISP, we keep only MAC address info, and IP addresses that you lease from us, other than that, we dont even have access to your password, all we can do is change the thing. Most ISPs really do NOT want to track their customers, if they were required to, then every illegal file that they download would be the responsibility of the ISP, and the ISP does not wish to assume any extra financial liability than that they already incur.

[onedeej]

RE: So ISPs don't save logs on what web pages

Actually, I personally work for a Cable ISP, we keep only MAC address info, and IP addresses that you lease from us, other than that, we dont even have access to your password, all we can do is change the thing. Most ISPs really do NOT want to track their customers, if they were required to, then every illegal file that they download would be the responsibility of the ISP, and the ISP does not wish to assume any extra financial liability than that they already incur.

[onedeej]

RE:So ISPs don't save logs on what web pages

Actually, I personally work for a Cable ISP, we keep only MAC address info, and IP addresses that you lease from us, other than that, we dont even have access to your password, all we can do is change the thing. Most ISPs really do NOT want to track their customers, if they were required to, then every illegal file that they download would be the responsibility of the ISP, and the ISP does not wish to assume any extra financial liability than that they already incur.

[GrandpaN1947]

Bye Bye Qwest

I think I'll switch to a company that values privacy.

[gestry]

Quest needs to read what happened at AOL

http://news.com.com/2100-1030-6107830.html?tag=tb
The same thing can happen to the fascist idiots at Quest, who decided we don't have a right to privacy.
If enough people contact Quest, and threaten to leave, they will listen.

[Earl]

Question:

What good is the retention of data for 6mo.,a year,or what ever, going to help what is happening now?