Comments on: Attorney general: Bush blocked review of spy program

Alberto Gonzales also presses for controversial law that would permit secret court to review NSA spy program.

[chris_d]

defend freedom, get rid of warrantless spying!

I have yet to see any evidence that this program makes anyone more secure. I HAVE seen evidence of it being used against reporters and whistle-blowers. In addition, Bush claims 9/11 as his excuse for anything and everything. The class-action lawsuit against AT&T has uncovered the fact that the program was set up months before 9/11/2001.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=abIV0cO64zJE&refer=#

This implies either:
A. Bush knew of the impending attack. And then of course he did nothing to stop it.
B. It has nothing to do with protecting America from attack.

I've also been told by neo-cons that if you're "not doing anything wrong" you have nothing to worry about. These same people also tell everyone that if you demand that anyone in the administration be held accountable for anything, you are a treasonous traitor and should be dealt with accordingly. They're already screaming mad about freedom of the press. Why not just set up a Ministry Of Information?

So as long as you agree with the administration, you're safe. If you exercise free speech, the FBI will be on you like Bill Clinton on an overweight intern.

Regarding the fascism comments, I encourage everyone to research Michael Ledeen. He's advised the current administration. His studies and the books he's written are worth a look. Here's a starting point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen

By the way, don't call me a liberal. You neo-cons call everyone who doesn't agree with you a liberal, as if it's a cuss word. I happen to be a gun shooting, abortion hating, big government dispising, well, I guess conservative. NOT a Republican. Of course Bush is no conservative. He spends like a drunken sailor. He makes Clinton look like more of a penny-pincher than my grandma.

I'd like to invite all you neo-cons to move to North Korea. There, everyone supports the leader. Why? Because all the ones who didn't have been shot. Let us Americans have the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, and all the other freedoms that our founders fought for.

I don't know if you realize it, but when you have a leader who makes his own laws:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

Who can interpret the Constitution... who can do everything in secret, who can imprison AMERICANS indefinitely without charging them, without letting them have their day in court, you are, by definition of the word, living in a dictatorship.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dictatorship

[btljooz]

chris_d's post BEST in here yet!!!

I hope each and every one of you goes through every single link he gave and LEARN about the TRUE enemy of this country! ;)

Then help us decide what We The People are going to do as individuals AND collectively to take our Country back from those who are effectively enacting a slow but sure Coup upon Our United States.

[ddesy]

Bravo!

Although I personally consider myself a liberal, I must say that your post is excellent. If only the Republican party and all it's neo conservatives would see the light that most regular conservatives and liberals have seen for a long time.

[btljooz]

READ chris_d's post! It's the BEST in here ;)

You will learn a LOT if you just Read __ALL__ of the links provided there!!! ;)

The ONLY thing where I disagree with chris is that I am Pro-Choice whereas he is not..... after all, he's "just a GUY!"~Quoting Bill Engval :)

[heystoopid]

Impeachment is long overdue!

Impeachment is long overdue, for hes totally failed in his job !

Alberto Gonzales, presided over the grand massive increase in the execution of convicted criminals in Texas during little Bush's reign as state governor, a minority of whom, were totally innocent of the crimes convicted, based on DNA crime evidence after the fact( a combination of corrupt lazy/lying cops/crooked DA's/the usual inept prejudiced juries Texas style etc(the juries selected in Tulio, Texas, is a classic day to day sample of this incompetence)). So he has the blood of innocents on his hands!

He has shown, he has absolutely no respect for the oath of office he swore, when taking up this high office! For simply stated, he is employed to enforce and uphold all the laws of congress, without fear nor favour!

Oh well, those that remain closed minded to reality, and do not choose to learn from the lessons in history, are doomed to repeat them!

But then again, patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels, incompetents and charlatans, when all said and done!

Strange is it not, for the government of the day, is failing to address many of it real problems, like the nine trillion dollar national debt, and many others to numerous to list, and using much window dressing to hide it's real intentions from prying eyes, something that facists dictators used routinely throughout their reigns of terror!

[qwerty75]

Agree

Bush has acted out of greed for himself and his buddies and a lust for power.

He stands against everything that millions of americans have fought and died for over the past 225+ years.

He is the biggest threat to our country and has comitted many crimes against the constitution, yet still walk free.

Assuming that Bush steps down in Jan, 2009, will we be able to recover or even vote someone in that willing to return us to the freedoms that so many have fought and died for?

[mgreere]

Liberals and _____?

Who are Liberals these days?

Anyone who is pro-administration calls everyone else a "Liberal."

I'm a registered independent who thinks many politicians are
nearly worthless, yet, apparently, I'm a Liberal because I think
Bush and his colleagues are mindless and/or spineless.

It's such a meaningless phrase. But it gets ratings and sells
books.

Try doing what the "other side" does:

Use specific phrases; like "the administration," "Republicans,"
"Democrats," "Critics," "Bush supporters," etc.

Perhaps "Me right, eveyone else America hating Liberal" fits the
false dichotomy world that "Bush apologists" call home.

Guess what? Over 60% of Americans think Bush can't do his job.
If you think they're all Liberals, you just signed your certification
of idiocy.

[pentium4forever]

Vote Democrat in 2008!

Our economy is going down the drain, I voted for Kerry in '04 and yet the dummie with no plan gets in. We need a democrat back in office, republicans don't seem to know how to manage the budget. We need to get out of the hole we are in before it gets too deep.

[ddesy]

Even better idea

Although I plan to vote Democrat, I have a better idea (although impossible). Let's try starting from scratch.

[miketkrw]

Laws Bush has broken

Lying to Congress
Right of no unwarranted search from the Constitution
The Geneva convention
The UN Charter
Espionage laws by leaking Valerie Plames covert status

More than enough to not only impeach but to hang. I volunteer to
pull the lever.

[xcor057]

Man you guys need new material

Lying to Congress? Name the lie specifically

Leaking Valerie Plame's name? Rove is not indicted. Novak says Rove was not the source of the name, Joe Willson's own entry in Who's Who in America was.

The Geneva Convention? How? In what way is humiliation of prisoners the same as torture, if that is what you're referring to?

You morons can't even produce one specific fact

[miketkrw]

Laws Bush has broken

Lying to Congress
Right of no unwarranted search from the Constitution
The Geneva convention
The UN Charter
Espionage laws by leaking Valerie Plames covert status

More than enough to not only impeach but to hang. I volunteer to
pull the lever.

[tim13a]

Treasonous Prsident

Our non elected president has committed treason. History will 'pull the lever' I feel certain, if the country can survive the messianic, proto-fascist puppet regime another two years.

[thedreaming]

Voting

When Bush's first term was over, we had, as a nation, the ability to vote him out of the office and by a huge margin, America decided to keep him in office. I guess everyone thought that since he made the mess, he should clean it up.

[btljooz]

RE: Voting

>When Bush's first term was over, we had, as a nation, the ability to vote him out of the office and by a huge margin, America decided to keep him in office.<

Can YOU say "[b]Diebold[/b]"? They were one of the companies who make and control voting machines who were BOUGHT OFF by the 'Republican' Party! Diebold is located in OHIO...where the LARGEST 'problems' with voting machines occured!

>I guess everyone thought that since he made the mess, he should clean it up.<

Nice GUESS, but WRONG...again! (I shake my head in disbelief of your naïveté :| )

Remember those pesky "[b]Chads[/b]" in Florida?...where George's BROTHER was [u]NOTICABLY[/u] invisable [b]during the election process[/b]! That's where the [b]LARGEST[/b] problem with Chads occured!

Yes, there were a couple of other States that had a problem with the Chads, too. BUT, there HAD to be! Because of Jeb Bush's 'Governorship'!!! If Florida had been the ONLY State having those 'problems', the raping of the election process would have been MUCH more OBVIOUS!!! ;)

[heystoopid]

most interesting

Most interesting, sadly your assumption was very wrong indeed!

About life in pre WW2 Germany and Japan, for both countries had teams of very talented and knowledgeable people, with an understanding of the concepts of nuclear physics, who were fully able, to create and manufacture a nuclear bomb! The Germans had a very advanced project and had actually assembled a real feasability test bed nuclear reactor very similar to the first primitive one used in the "Manhattan Project". That is a well known and relevant fact of history!

Nice try!, but those who fail to learn the lessons in history are always doomed to repeat them!

As for the man, as a noted public figure his current and past activities, are fully documented in real time as it happens, by both the visual and print media, some of which is collated into various books as well!

In one book with the title "A Fortunate Son" by JR Hatfield, my edition ISBN 1-904132-46-4, first published in the US in 1999, complete with an extensive bibliography of sources.

This book shows an interesting picture of the man, who used family connections to avoid the Vietnam war draft of 1968, where even then at the early age he broke his oath to the country and literally failed fulfil his duty!

I can only suggest you research your comments fairly and accurately, and you are free to hold any view you choose, for that is a what true democracy is about!

The Internet, makes for a very versatile valuable search and information retrieval tool, in which many real facts and data can be easily accessed, allied to adequately funded public libraries for the printed media as required!

Oh well such is life, to always keep an open mind so that one can learn, from the valuable lessons in history!