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Sorry, just love Pink Floyd. :)
Don't know who/how to contact? Please allow me to assist. Both sites have handy little links to help you determine and communicate with your particular Congressmen/Senators.
http://www.house.gov/
http://www.senate.gov/
Since Anoox is a not-for-profit search engine and one operated in an Open and De-centralized fashion, Big brother will not be able to control what you see (search for).
Well at the most the Big brother in US will be able to control what you see by searching Anoox US based, but not AnooX French based, German based,
Russian based, etc.
So don't waste your time by contacting your congressman, they are part and parcel of the Big media/brother.
Take things into your hand and find alternative sources of information to the US backed Big media/brother.
And beside switching to Anoox (btw here: www.anoox.com) also host your web site at an ISP outside of US.
Here for ISPs: www.orsn.org give you list of European ISPs.
In time freedom of information will bring even democracy to USA, which used to have the best democracy but totally lost it after WWII as Big media & Wallstreet took over the country.
Don't know who/how to contact? Please allow me to assist. Both sites have handy little links to help you determine and communicate with your particular Congressmen/Senators.
http://www.house.gov/
http://www.senate.gov/
Since Anoox is a not-for-profit search engine and one operated in an Open and De-centralized fashion, Big brother will not be able to control what you see (search for).
Well at the most the Big brother in US will be able to control what you see by searching Anoox US based, but not AnooX French based, German based,
Russian based, etc.
So don't waste your time by contacting your congressman, they are part and parcel of the Big media/brother.
Take things into your hand and find alternative sources of information to the US backed Big media/brother.
And beside switching to Anoox (btw here: www.anoox.com) also host your web site at an ISP outside of US.
Here for ISPs: www.orsn.org give you list of European ISPs.
In time freedom of information will bring even democracy to USA, which used to have the best democracy but totally lost it after WWII as Big media & Wallstreet took over the country.
outside of USA. Because the US government has shown itself to be any thing but democratic.
It has shown itself to be, in bed with Big business, to control the "eye ball" minds of the people worldwide.
And it does not give a damn what people think, since it counts on Big media lying for it out of Million different outlets so that people would have no idea what the Hek the truth is, or what is going on. After just all look the example of the invasion of Iraq: US invaded a small defenseless
country which had done nothing to US at all, and has slaughtered and is slaughtering its people by the 10's of Thousands and 99% of the coverage in US Big media has been and is positive about this barbaric invasion and occupation.
And don't be mistaken the Big media is from Wall Street Journal, to NY Times, to CNN, to Fox, to Yahoo, to Google to MSN, to Hollywood, etc.
So at minimum we need to make sure that the control of the Internet, our real access
to the Internet/Web, is not in their hands, this means:
1- Use ISPs outside of US & UK to host your web sites
2- Support ORSN.org which is creating alternative root server
3- Support Anoox.com which is creating an Open & de-centralized search engine
4- Support MySQL which is doing same for database (information storage)
outside of USA. Because the US government has shown itself to be any thing but democratic.
It has shown itself to be, in bed with Big business, to control the "eye ball" minds of the people worldwide.
And it does not give a damn what people think, since it counts on Big media lying for it out of Million different outlets so that people would have no idea what the Hek the truth is, or what is going on. After just all look the example of the invasion of Iraq: US invaded a small defenseless
country which had done nothing to US at all, and has slaughtered and is slaughtering its people by the 10's of Thousands and 99% of the coverage in US Big media has been and is positive about this barbaric invasion and occupation.
And don't be mistaken the Big media is from Wall Street Journal, to NY Times, to CNN, to Fox, to Yahoo, to Google to MSN, to Hollywood, etc.
So at minimum we need to make sure that the control of the Internet, our real access
to the Internet/Web, is not in their hands, this means:
1- Use ISPs outside of US & UK to host your web sites
2- Support ORSN.org which is creating alternative root server
3- Support Anoox.com which is creating an Open & de-centralized search engine
4- Support MySQL which is doing same for database (information storage)
When I first heard Gonzales talking about records retention to fight Child Pornography, I was very pleased. But I did find his concern out of tone and out of focus (from all the other nagging and ******** that he and this cowardly anti democratic administration is famous for) from the usual.
Now we know what he/they are really up to. The problem in the retention is not just Gonzales and his snoops. The problem is as data get compiled someone will try to make a buck out of it, wether it is a corrupt dope head / gambler / dsisgruntled employee or wether it is our Great Multi National Corporation. AT&T, COMCAST and all the low lives who think they own us because we are their customer.
Something really should be done to stop this madness. This culture of fear have never generated anything positive: Think of the Inqusition, The Holocust, The Macartheisim. Democrats are really spineless for allowing this to continue and Republican are to much of YES MEN & WOMEN to remember what this country stands for. Not the Flag, The Constitution.
When I first heard Gonzales talking about records retention to fight Child Pornography, I was very pleased. But I did find his concern out of tone and out of focus (from all the other nagging and ******** that he and this cowardly anti democratic administration is famous for) from the usual.
Now we know what he/they are really up to. The problem in the retention is not just Gonzales and his snoops. The problem is as data get compiled someone will try to make a buck out of it, wether it is a corrupt dope head / gambler / dsisgruntled employee or wether it is our Great Multi National Corporation. AT&T, COMCAST and all the low lives who think they own us because we are their customer.
Something really should be done to stop this madness. This culture of fear have never generated anything positive: Think of the Inqusition, The Holocust, The Macartheisim. Democrats are really spineless for allowing this to continue and Republican are to much of YES MEN & WOMEN to remember what this country stands for. Not the Flag, The Constitution.
Given the huge number of messages exchanged each day, the communications volume precludes any widespread eavesdropping. However, histograms could lead to links used by potential mass murderers.
We need to ignore the paranoid and the 'selective civil libertarians' who seem to believe that our rights are protected when we provide new loopholes to would-be mass murderers.
Note that during WW II, mail to and from military personnel was opened and censored and first class mail was often intercepted. Our trans-oceanic telephone calls were handled by a small number of HF SSB links that were easily monitored. Communications intelligence typically involved government links.
I have no idea what you are, but you are no true conservative. Conservatives have always been about less government in people's lives. So have the true left of the liberal side.
But the neolibelas and neoconservatives... man, you just don't get it, you don't get America and you really should move to a nation that better reflects your admmiration for fascism like china.
You want to catch mass murderers? Fine. Do it within the law. Period. Point. Set. Match.
And don't think about setting up NEW laws to catch said murderers., our justice system works just fine, thank you. BTW, what person mass murderers then brags about it online? I've never heard of a case like this, and you're just pulling that from your backside.
Civil libertarians aren't being paranoid, you are. By supporting this meausre, you are basically saying that everyone living in america is a suspected criminal for something, and you don't call that paranoia?
What we need is ALOT less people like you, so if you aren't happy if the freedoms we have here in the USA, we don't you move to somewhere where the gov't watches you like a hawk? I'll by waiting for your answer.
Would-be mass murderers? Now you can predict who will kill and how many? This is thought crime. You don't go after anyone for a crime unless they commited one. No crime, no investigation, What the hell, are you one of those people who watched Tom Cruise's Minority Report and thought,"Hey, what a good idea!"
Too bad you don't see this behavious you are excusing is in of itself, criminal.
And I don't see where any of your comments on WWII fit in.
But with other people like you, I'm still awaiting your phone number, e-mail, credit histroy, physical address, even though I know you are too much a coward to give it.
Given the huge number of messages exchanged each day, the communications volume precludes any widespread eavesdropping. However, histograms could lead to links used by potential mass murderers.
We need to ignore the paranoid and the 'selective civil libertarians' who seem to believe that our rights are protected when we provide new loopholes to would-be mass murderers.
Note that during WW II, mail to and from military personnel was opened and censored and first class mail was often intercepted. Our trans-oceanic telephone calls were handled by a small number of HF SSB links that were easily monitored. Communications intelligence typically involved government links.
I have no idea what you are, but you are no true conservative. Conservatives have always been about less government in people's lives. So have the true left of the liberal side.
But the neolibelas and neoconservatives... man, you just don't get it, you don't get America and you really should move to a nation that better reflects your admmiration for fascism like china.
You want to catch mass murderers? Fine. Do it within the law. Period. Point. Set. Match.
And don't think about setting up NEW laws to catch said murderers., our justice system works just fine, thank you. BTW, what person mass murderers then brags about it online? I've never heard of a case like this, and you're just pulling that from your backside.
Civil libertarians aren't being paranoid, you are. By supporting this meausre, you are basically saying that everyone living in america is a suspected criminal for something, and you don't call that paranoia?
What we need is ALOT less people like you, so if you aren't happy if the freedoms we have here in the USA, we don't you move to somewhere where the gov't watches you like a hawk? I'll by waiting for your answer.
Would-be mass murderers? Now you can predict who will kill and how many? This is thought crime. You don't go after anyone for a crime unless they commited one. No crime, no investigation, What the hell, are you one of those people who watched Tom Cruise's Minority Report and thought,"Hey, what a good idea!"
Too bad you don't see this behavious you are excusing is in of itself, criminal.
And I don't see where any of your comments on WWII fit in.
But with other people like you, I'm still awaiting your phone number, e-mail, credit histroy, physical address, even though I know you are too much a coward to give it.
- For mthose that advocate for retention, it's time to put up or shut up
- by MisterFlibble May 31, 2006 8:56 PM PDT
- Since you all think that giving up your privacy and civil rights are just hunkey-doorey for Bush to protect you from the Big Bad boogeymen (and 9/11 did happen on his watch, was he protecting you then?), then put your money where your mouth is and give us your info on your physical address, your phone number, SS#, credit history, purchases you've made in the last year, etc. If you don't, you don't have a leg to stand on, you're not willing to put yourself through what you want the rest of us to go through. You are the very essence of hypocrisy.
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- re: For mthose that advocate for retention, it's time to put up or shut up
- by clamberto June 2, 2006 1:43 PM PDT
- Ummm, the people pushing for this kind of data retention are not asking to be exempt. Where/when did anybody indicate that they were?
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