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Comments on: Congress may consider mandatory ISP snooping

House Democrat joins Bush administration in supporting a mandate that Net firms store records about consumers' activities.

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snooping
by newcreation May 1, 2006 5:58 AM PDT
first of all child porn is illegal and as far a terrorism is concerned yes id be weary of anyone communicating to know terror groups..id just deport anyone knowingly doing so
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snooping
by newcreation May 1, 2006 5:58 AM PDT
first of all child porn is illegal and as far a terrorism is concerned yes id be weary of anyone communicating to know terror groups..id just deport anyone knowingly doing so
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Outraged?
by commsoft May 1, 2006 6:45 AM PDT
Democrats are just as bad about this crap as Republicans - a big government is an oppressive government, and we inch closer to Orwell's world every day. Pretty soon they'll be prosecuting DMCA violations for people who try to fast forward through Big Brother's commercials.

More Laws + More Taxes = Less Freedom. Vote Libertarian.
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Outraged?
by commsoft May 1, 2006 6:45 AM PDT
Democrats are just as bad about this crap as Republicans - a big government is an oppressive government, and we inch closer to Orwell's world every day. Pretty soon they'll be prosecuting DMCA violations for people who try to fast forward through Big Brother's commercials.

More Laws + More Taxes = Less Freedom. Vote Libertarian.
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Ask China
by mwaw May 1, 2006 1:17 PM PDT
Those who want ISPs to retain data should hire someone from China as a consultant. I'm sure such a consultant would know all of the tricks.
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Ask China
by mwaw May 1, 2006 1:17 PM PDT
Those who want ISPs to retain data should hire someone from China as a consultant. I'm sure such a consultant would know all of the tricks.
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define evil
by newcreation May 1, 2006 1:29 PM PDT
how would define what is evil?
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Well, for instance this bill/admendment!
by MisterFlibble May 3, 2006 2:46 PM PDT
This legislation is some of the most evil legislation I've seen in what is suppose to be a democratic republican. More and more, it's looking like a gestapo dictatoship.
define evil
by newcreation May 1, 2006 1:29 PM PDT
how would define what is evil?
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Well, for instance this bill/admendment!
by MisterFlibble May 3, 2006 2:46 PM PDT
This legislation is some of the most evil legislation I've seen in what is suppose to be a democratic republican. More and more, it's looking like a gestapo dictatoship.
Wiretaps without warrants
by ajbright May 1, 2006 4:56 PM PDT
It's nothing more than that - and it's about time that everyone writes down the name of every congressman that sponsors or votes for such a bill - not to be deleted until at least one year after their voted out of office.

Next November you have a chance to get rid of these idiots once and for all.

My own position is clear, if they're an incumbant politician they must go.

Spying on everyone because someone might be bad is the mark of this country's final move to a communist state.

Wait for the "if you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to fear" rubbish from idiots that support the criminals posing as representatives of the people.

The counter argument is simple. There is no guarantee of accuracy in any law enforcement database, in fact there is evidence of huge numbers of errors. These errors are life destroying. Incorrectly associating horrendous crimes with entirely innocent people, and because the lists are "flawless" and the systems "can never go wrong", when an error is found, the fight to get it removed is often futile, and in the best cases last years.

An example - 28,000 American citizens who have no ties whatsoever to terrorism are included in the no-fly lists. That's the 28,000 we know of. The DHS, a department that supposedly exists to serve the country, refuses to remove any of those names.

This means that 28,000 Americans citizens that try to catch their scheduled flights are forced to wait for background checks, sometimes permanently refused, and then face the same again on any connecting flights - if they're lucky enough to be re-scheduled for one they've missed.

This includes business people who've lost their jobs because they can no longer perform them and thousands of holiday makers that hold letters from the DHS proving they have no ties to terrorism.

So again I ask everyone who can vote to do so to remove every single member of congress. They need to be shown they are not there to make up whatever laws they feel like, for dumb reasons that have no positive outcome. They are there to serve those that voted for them, and if they refuse they should be fired.

The best possible scenario from this is that we will face huge bills to cover the cost of a system that will catch no more criminals than the one we have now. The worst is that thousands of people will be spied on for being the victims of spyware popups and inappropriately accused of crimes they did not commit.
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Wiretaps without warrants
by ajbright May 1, 2006 4:56 PM PDT
It's nothing more than that - and it's about time that everyone writes down the name of every congressman that sponsors or votes for such a bill - not to be deleted until at least one year after their voted out of office.

Next November you have a chance to get rid of these idiots once and for all.

My own position is clear, if they're an incumbant politician they must go.

Spying on everyone because someone might be bad is the mark of this country's final move to a communist state.

Wait for the "if you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to fear" rubbish from idiots that support the criminals posing as representatives of the people.

The counter argument is simple. There is no guarantee of accuracy in any law enforcement database, in fact there is evidence of huge numbers of errors. These errors are life destroying. Incorrectly associating horrendous crimes with entirely innocent people, and because the lists are "flawless" and the systems "can never go wrong", when an error is found, the fight to get it removed is often futile, and in the best cases last years.

An example - 28,000 American citizens who have no ties whatsoever to terrorism are included in the no-fly lists. That's the 28,000 we know of. The DHS, a department that supposedly exists to serve the country, refuses to remove any of those names.

This means that 28,000 Americans citizens that try to catch their scheduled flights are forced to wait for background checks, sometimes permanently refused, and then face the same again on any connecting flights - if they're lucky enough to be re-scheduled for one they've missed.

This includes business people who've lost their jobs because they can no longer perform them and thousands of holiday makers that hold letters from the DHS proving they have no ties to terrorism.

So again I ask everyone who can vote to do so to remove every single member of congress. They need to be shown they are not there to make up whatever laws they feel like, for dumb reasons that have no positive outcome. They are there to serve those that voted for them, and if they refuse they should be fired.

The best possible scenario from this is that we will face huge bills to cover the cost of a system that will catch no more criminals than the one we have now. The worst is that thousands of people will be spied on for being the victims of spyware popups and inappropriately accused of crimes they did not commit.
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ISP Snooping
by genealogynut September 8, 2006 6:53 PM PDT
I have been an ISP for over 10 years now and this government in cahoots with the telcos has done everything in its power to put us all out of business. We are the ones who got the country up and running on the net. 10 years ago or so there were about 8,000 - 10,000 independent ISPs. Today there are fewer than 3,000.

Colin Powell's son, as head of the FCC, by fiat all but disemboweled the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Now you want us to support the computer hardware dealers by forcing us to buy servers and hard drives just to keep the e-mail which is now at least 80% spam. So we have to pay for more bandwidth for the Russians to send us spam. (But that's good for the huge telcos which Mr. Powell unleashed.)

I have been a Republican for more than 45 years but I surely am no longer. The most moderate candidate on any ballot I see will get my vote. The Republicans are now the party of big business, corruption and graft. They don't give a squat about small business. We don't have the big bucks to donate, so we don't count any more.

Am I angry??? You bet!!!!!!
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ISP Snooping
by genealogynut September 8, 2006 6:53 PM PDT
I have been an ISP for over 10 years now and this government in cahoots with the telcos has done everything in its power to put us all out of business. We are the ones who got the country up and running on the net. 10 years ago or so there were about 8,000 - 10,000 independent ISPs. Today there are fewer than 3,000.

Colin Powell's son, as head of the FCC, by fiat all but disemboweled the Telecommunications Act of 1996. Now you want us to support the computer hardware dealers by forcing us to buy servers and hard drives just to keep the e-mail which is now at least 80% spam. So we have to pay for more bandwidth for the Russians to send us spam. (But that's good for the huge telcos which Mr. Powell unleashed.)

I have been a Republican for more than 45 years but I surely am no longer. The most moderate candidate on any ballot I see will get my vote. The Republicans are now the party of big business, corruption and graft. They don't give a squat about small business. We don't have the big bucks to donate, so we don't count any more.

Am I angry??? You bet!!!!!!
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