Comments on: Congress may consider mandatory ISP snooping

House Democrat joins Bush administration in supporting a mandate that Net firms store records about consumers' activities.

[fastdodge]

I look forward to all this surveilance

Once this is instituted, I plan to visit every available web site on
the planet at least twice. I'll e-mail stuff to everybody on the
planet at least twice. I also plan to invest all my money in
companies that sell storage drives because there isn't enough
available now for all the stuff going around the web.

Did you notice that this is one bill both parties can agree on. It
seems they hate each others guts unless it involves trampling all
over our civil rights. Who said "Don't Tread on me"? Maybe
somebody should remind both parties its "We the People".

[fastdodge]

I look forward to all this surveilance

Once this is instituted, I plan to visit every available web site on
the planet at least twice. I'll e-mail stuff to everybody on the
planet at least twice. I also plan to invest all my money in
companies that sell storage drives because there isn't enough
available now for all the stuff going around the web.

Did you notice that this is one bill both parties can agree on. It
seems they hate each others guts unless it involves trampling all
over our civil rights. Who said "Don't Tread on me"? Maybe
somebody should remind both parties its "We the People".

[Maelstorm]

Are we turning into China?

The following is an email that I sent to Senators Diane Feinstien, Barabra Boxer, and Represenitive Ellen Tauscher...


Are we turning into China?
Civil Liberties/Rights

I have just read several articles in the news that Congress may consider mandatory ISP (Internet Service Provider) snooping reminicent of legislation that Europe has recently enacted. Sorry, but in my opinion, this is going too far. It seems that more and more each day we are loosing one by one our personal freedoms and liberties, heading toward a police state/survellince society similar to what is described in Orwell's 1984. The DoJ are claiming that this is to assist in Child Pornography investigations. My question to them is "How much is enough?" After all, we have the Patriot Act, so what more does the DoJ need? The last time that I checked, I lived in the United States of America, not The People's Republic of China.

[Maelstorm]

Are we turning into China?

The following is an email that I sent to Senators Diane Feinstien, Barabra Boxer, and Represenitive Ellen Tauscher...


Are we turning into China?
Civil Liberties/Rights

I have just read several articles in the news that Congress may consider mandatory ISP (Internet Service Provider) snooping reminicent of legislation that Europe has recently enacted. Sorry, but in my opinion, this is going too far. It seems that more and more each day we are loosing one by one our personal freedoms and liberties, heading toward a police state/survellince society similar to what is described in Orwell's 1984. The DoJ are claiming that this is to assist in Child Pornography investigations. My question to them is "How much is enough?" After all, we have the Patriot Act, so what more does the DoJ need? The last time that I checked, I lived in the United States of America, not The People's Republic of China.

[truebluealex]

We should be snooping on them, NOT them snooping on us!

Really...Who are they to just get into any and all of our own lives?!?! If they are so worried about keeping children safe, keeping them from being exploited and so on - then why is it even existent on the internet in the first place? Instead of ISP snooping, the ISP's should NOT allow such horrible things to be on their servers, their searches and should not host such sites to begin with! That alone would probably stop almost all of the hideous internet crimes against children.

If that is not acceptable to our control-crazed circus of a government, then that proves their intentions are not what they are trying to sell. The government is no different than someone trying to pick someone up at a bar, "They will say anything to get you into bed." If they cared so much about the safety of children, how come there isn't legislation/laws/whatever that would hold the ISP's accountable for making sure no content that exploits children is anywhere on their servers, and they are not hosting content of that nature; or they will be prosecuted.
That would make sense because without hosting services and servers of ISP's, having content on the web would be quite difficult.

With that being said, there is NO reason for ISP snooping! Plus, it is the government that should be looked upon by us citizens - because of their ignorance, greed, and hunger for more power and control that there are innocent children getting killed in the war they started, our own children at home are without health insurance, without adequate treatment, affordable treatment, services, and medications. I think that they are also endangering the lives of children, and unfortunately, children die everyday because services that would save their lives is only available to those who are priveleged.

[Hellcat54]

ISP snoops

You are so right, but you notice, they just lie if they are asked questions, and when they ask US something and we lie, off to jail we go...I am so furious over this mess, and feel so helpless, can't anyone come up with a plan before it really is too late??????

[truebluealex]

We should be snooping on them, NOT them snooping on us!

Really...Who are they to just get into any and all of our own lives?!?! If they are so worried about keeping children safe, keeping them from being exploited and so on - then why is it even existent on the internet in the first place? Instead of ISP snooping, the ISP's should NOT allow such horrible things to be on their servers, their searches and should not host such sites to begin with! That alone would probably stop almost all of the hideous internet crimes against children.

If that is not acceptable to our control-crazed circus of a government, then that proves their intentions are not what they are trying to sell. The government is no different than someone trying to pick someone up at a bar, "They will say anything to get you into bed." If they cared so much about the safety of children, how come there isn't legislation/laws/whatever that would hold the ISP's accountable for making sure no content that exploits children is anywhere on their servers, and they are not hosting content of that nature; or they will be prosecuted.
That would make sense because without hosting services and servers of ISP's, having content on the web would be quite difficult.

With that being said, there is NO reason for ISP snooping! Plus, it is the government that should be looked upon by us citizens - because of their ignorance, greed, and hunger for more power and control that there are innocent children getting killed in the war they started, our own children at home are without health insurance, without adequate treatment, affordable treatment, services, and medications. I think that they are also endangering the lives of children, and unfortunately, children die everyday because services that would save their lives is only available to those who are priveleged.

[Hellcat54]

ISP snoops

You are so right, but you notice, they just lie if they are asked questions, and when they ask US something and we lie, off to jail we go...I am so furious over this mess, and feel so helpless, can't anyone come up with a plan before it really is too late??????

[truebluealex]

We should be snooping on them, NOT them snooping on us!

Really...Who are they to just get into any and all of our own lives?!?! If they are so worried about keeping children safe, keeping them from being exploited and so on - then why is it even existent on the internet in the first place? Instead of ISP snooping, the ISP's should NOT allow such horrible things to be on their servers, their searches and should not host such sites to begin with! That alone would probably stop almost all of the hideous internet crimes against children.

If that is not acceptable to our control-crazed circus of a government, then that proves their intentions are not what they are trying to sell. The government is no different than someone trying to pick someone up at a bar, "They will say anything to get you into bed." If they cared so much about the safety of children, how come there isn't legislation/laws/whatever that would hold the ISP's accountable for making sure no content that exploits children is anywhere on their servers, and they are not hosting content of that nature; or they will be prosecuted.
That would make sense because without hosting services and servers of ISP's, having content on the web would be quite difficult.

With that being said, there is NO reason for ISP snooping! Plus, it is the government that should be looked upon by us citizens - because of their ignorance, greed, and hunger for more power and control that there are innocent children getting killed in the war they started, our own children at home are without health insurance, without adequate treatment, affordable treatment, services, and medications. I think that they are also endangering the lives of children, and unfortunately, children die everyday because services that would save their lives is only available to those who are priveleged.

[booboo1243]

ISPs shouldn't be punished

ISPs are nothing more than common carriers. :/

[truebluealex]

We should be snooping on them, NOT them snooping on us!

Really...Who are they to just get into any and all of our own lives?!?! If they are so worried about keeping children safe, keeping them from being exploited and so on - then why is it even existent on the internet in the first place? Instead of ISP snooping, the ISP's should NOT allow such horrible things to be on their servers, their searches and should not host such sites to begin with! That alone would probably stop almost all of the hideous internet crimes against children.

If that is not acceptable to our control-crazed circus of a government, then that proves their intentions are not what they are trying to sell. The government is no different than someone trying to pick someone up at a bar, "They will say anything to get you into bed." If they cared so much about the safety of children, how come there isn't legislation/laws/whatever that would hold the ISP's accountable for making sure no content that exploits children is anywhere on their servers, and they are not hosting content of that nature; or they will be prosecuted.
That would make sense because without hosting services and servers of ISP's, having content on the web would be quite difficult.

With that being said, there is NO reason for ISP snooping! Plus, it is the government that should be looked upon by us citizens - because of their ignorance, greed, and hunger for more power and control that there are innocent children getting killed in the war they started, our own children at home are without health insurance, without adequate treatment, affordable treatment, services, and medications. I think that they are also endangering the lives of children, and unfortunately, children die everyday because services that would save their lives is only available to those who are priveleged.

[booboo1243]

ISPs shouldn't be punished

ISPs are nothing more than common carriers. :/

[casper2004]

The feds have created chaos so they can drum up a new world order

This police state agenda has been going on since the founding fathers died. The government has managed to keep it going so long because they pass the torch to future generations of their families. The founders of this country made the mistake of not doing that.

[casper2004]

The feds have created chaos so they can drum up a new world order

This police state agenda has been going on since the founding fathers died. The government has managed to keep it going so long because they pass the torch to future generations of their families. The founders of this country made the mistake of not doing that.

[Sol999]

Those Nice Democrats

This little fascist b*tch is one of those "nice Democrats who's here to help." I wish people could understand it's not just the Republicans who are raping the Bill of Rights. The fact is that both parties are determined to destroy our civil liberty.

[PzkwVIb]

She may call herself a Democrat

But a true Democrat would never be willing to stomp on the First Amendment in such a blatant manner. And this child porn schtick is getting old. The current administration's arguments for destroying Americans' long held freedoms now invariably "child porn" or "terrorism". This is what we get for having a department of Fatherland security, and a succession of religious wacko, and yes-man Attorneys General.

Never vote for anyone who stands for any type of censorship or domestic spying.

[Bill Dautrive]

Bad assumption

You are assuming that we live in a two party state. Nothing could be further from the truth. The are just different sides of the same coin. The issues they use to try and show they are different are the same ones that are used to divide adn control the country.

[Sol999]

Those Nice Democrats

This little fascist b*tch is one of those "nice Democrats who's here to help." I wish people could understand it's not just the Republicans who are raping the Bill of Rights. The fact is that both parties are determined to destroy our civil liberty.

[PzkwVIb]

She may call herself a Democrat

But a true Democrat would never be willing to stomp on the First Amendment in such a blatant manner. And this child porn schtick is getting old. The current administration's arguments for destroying Americans' long held freedoms now invariably "child porn" or "terrorism". This is what we get for having a department of Fatherland security, and a succession of religious wacko, and yes-man Attorneys General.

Never vote for anyone who stands for any type of censorship or domestic spying.

[Bill Dautrive]

Bad assumption

You are assuming that we live in a two party state. Nothing could be further from the truth. The are just different sides of the same coin. The issues they use to try and show they are different are the same ones that are used to divide adn control the country.

[heystoopid]

here's an idea

Here's an idea, all those that propose draconian rules, should be forced to live under the very same rules, for not less than 12 months for the first offence!

Second offence, one year sentence in the chaos of Iraq!

Thereafter, should they get these silly idea's again, we can send them to live the balance of their life in countries like China or North Korea, or any other thought police controlled state in this world of ours!, for I am sure the rulers will open their arms for like minded cretins' !!!!!

Now, that would be truly fitting punishment for those that cannot think before they act , like our current generation of elected politicians!!

[heystoopid]

here's an idea

Here's an idea, all those that propose draconian rules, should be forced to live under the very same rules, for not less than 12 months for the first offence!

Second offence, one year sentence in the chaos of Iraq!

Thereafter, should they get these silly idea's again, we can send them to live the balance of their life in countries like China or North Korea, or any other thought police controlled state in this world of ours!, for I am sure the rulers will open their arms for like minded cretins' !!!!!

Now, that would be truly fitting punishment for those that cannot think before they act , like our current generation of elected politicians!!

[OneWithTech]

If your going to create a Bill or Amendment..

...maybe you should learn the difference between and ISP and a hosting provider. Although many ISP's do offer hosting services. There are many companies like Tech01.net (www.Tech01.net) that only offer Computer Services as Well as Domain Mangement and Web Hosting.

I suppose while your at it your should also research Domain Name Services too. You'll find that the process of putting up a website is 2 fold and requires both a "Hosting Provider" as well as "Domain Management Service" to point the www Dot to the server that your web site will be hosted on.

It's much more complicated than you people really understand.

Why don't you make it EASY on EVERYBODY on Capitol Hill as well as "The People" and make ONE BILL the combines Net Neutrality with ISP's, Domain Providers, and Hosting Services.

One Bill that covers all the bases of the Information SuperHighway. Not 5 Bills and 10 amendments combined over 5 years.

You might as well call yourself ICANN and expect to get NOTHING DONE. I can personally atest to you that ALL of the PARTS above are NEEDED as a WHOLE to make the INTERNET work. For this reason you should govern it so and reflect a Bill that covers the WWW as a whole.

~Justin
Tech01.net

[OneWithTech]

If your going to create a Bill or Amendment..

...maybe you should learn the difference between and ISP and a hosting provider. Although many ISP's do offer hosting services. There are many companies like Tech01.net (www.Tech01.net) that only offer Computer Services as Well as Domain Mangement and Web Hosting.

I suppose while your at it your should also research Domain Name Services too. You'll find that the process of putting up a website is 2 fold and requires both a "Hosting Provider" as well as "Domain Management Service" to point the www Dot to the server that your web site will be hosted on.

It's much more complicated than you people really understand.

Why don't you make it EASY on EVERYBODY on Capitol Hill as well as "The People" and make ONE BILL the combines Net Neutrality with ISP's, Domain Providers, and Hosting Services.

One Bill that covers all the bases of the Information SuperHighway. Not 5 Bills and 10 amendments combined over 5 years.

You might as well call yourself ICANN and expect to get NOTHING DONE. I can personally atest to you that ALL of the PARTS above are NEEDED as a WHOLE to make the INTERNET work. For this reason you should govern it so and reflect a Bill that covers the WWW as a whole.

~Justin
Tech01.net

[crazeebob2000]

Nazi America

I wonder if we will be required to give the nazi salute and shout "Sieg Heil!".

[crazeebob2000]

Nazi America

I wonder if we will be required to give the nazi salute and shout "Sieg Heil!".

[crazeebob2000]

Nazi America

I wonder if we will be required to give the nazi salute and shout "Sieg Heil!".

[casper2004]

If we don't, Sean Hannity will lambaste us on the air

No, we're just required to respect any and all Bush's.

[crazeebob2000]

Nazi America

I wonder if we will be required to give the nazi salute and shout "Sieg Heil!".

[casper2004]

If we don't, Sean Hannity will lambaste us on the air

No, we're just required to respect any and all Bush's.