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Comments on: Senator wants to ban 'fast lane' for Web

Bill would bar Net providers from charging content providers, retailers for speedier service.

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Internet equality needed
by J.G. March 2, 2006 2:35 PM PST
It is unfortunate that such legislation is probably necessary. I can
easily envision a future in which just about everything on the
Internet is prioritized for those willing to pay the most to get it,
while the masses are shunted off to limited content old AOL style
portals.
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its what
by techguy83 March 2, 2006 3:45 PM PST
AT&T and Bellsouth and all of the major companies want anyway. Its more moeny for them on both ends. And to boot, we the people will still pay for equipment upgrades and such too.
A punishment in search of a crime
by ORinSF March 2, 2006 3:46 PM PST
Giving preferential treatment for higher-paying customers is the basis for all of our tech innovations to date. Is it OK to pay more for a faster PC? A better user experience?

Are we complaining that Whole Foods is giving unfair treatment to those who want better food? Is Apple giving "preferential treatment" to those who like their OS? Is Google too good?

Come on, this is old school socialism in a tech guise. Let the network providers offer whatever services they choose, and let the customers (read: the public) decide. Let the options flourish, and let the good ones win.

The infrastructure can only improve when customers are willing and able to pay for it, just like everything forward-thinking innovation of the past. Net neutrality laws actually make it illegal to buy better service. How absurd, especially in an environment that has thrived due to an absence of rules.

Please don't create new rules to punish a crime that doesn't exist. More here:

http://www.onlyrepublican.com/orinsf/net_neutrality_and_municipal_wifi/
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What I think this
by Tiemmothi March 2, 2006 5:24 PM PST
Law aims to prevent is the idea that google can pay more to
make there netowrk go faster to the end user, thus forcing
yahoo and all the others to pay up to be competative. All the
while the end user has no clue why googles searchs are that
much faster. They must have the better search engine? Not true
they just pay more to provide faster searches. While I agree this
economy is based on pay more get more Im not sure I agree
with this scheme as I see it. Is this law the best way to deal with
it? I dont know, but if anything it will open some eyes, some
eyes that need to be opened to what could come.
They are NOT providing more service...
by Gayle Edwards March 2, 2006 8:06 PM PST
They are set-up to punitively "throttle-back" competing services, smaller businesses, and legitimate customer-usage that they simply wish to discourage.

Also, you know, people are about through putting-up with this BOGUS "let the marketplace decide" argument, which is actually nothing more than a euphemism for "let business do whatever it wants", ...no matter what other interests are trampled in the process.
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Selfishness should not rule
by J.G. March 3, 2006 2:18 AM PST
The Internet is a common carrier, like utilities or phone companies.
The law treats common carriers as necessities and discourages
efforts to shut out segments of the population who lack power,
particularly the poor. We need legislation to make sure that the
Internet does not become something available only to the middle
and upper classes precisely because of selfish, uncaring persons
like you.

And, no, I will not be reading the Republican piffle you are pushing.
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Talk about someone who just doesn't get it...
by CharlesRovira March 3, 2006 5:38 AM PST
Dude, the argument is that if, Google say, strikes a deal with a telco, their pages will be carried with less latency than, Yahoo's say.

That's like my first-class mail getting somewhere faster than yours because I'm willing to pay more.

Dude, its all just electrical signals and the telcos would have to SPEND money to implement this (with DHCP I'd hate to have to be the one administering the tables,) to get this 'anti-democratization' of the web implemented.

Its like you having to pay more to get electricity delivered over the wire to your door because the power generating company doesn't like your choice in shoe color.
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The networks are already paid for. It's a scam
by ordaj March 2, 2006 4:31 PM PST
Don't let them fool you. It's a broadband scandal.

http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm

Greedheads.
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Comcast and my Packet8 VoIP phone
by booboo1243 March 2, 2006 7:17 PM PST
It used to work great, my Packet8 Virtual Office extension that is. But now there is a noticeable and very annoying delay that started a couple of months ago. I travel with another extension and it works great at most locations...unless it is fed by a Comcast cable modem. After they announced a VoIP service of thier own I now know why.
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It's About Time
by michaelhoffman March 2, 2006 7:20 PM PST
This issue is critical. You think the providers won't start making the voice packets of Vonage or Skype go just a little bit slower? So they can support their own services. We are so behind in broadband and we need this legislation to stop the carriers from turning the net into cable TV, which is their plan. Look at their own comments on this subject. They say Google and others get a free ride on their investment. It's a lie and we need to establish network neutrality sooner than later.
Michael Hoffman
See3 - Media for Nonprofits
http://www.see3.net
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Ultimately, the consumer will pay
by jmmejzz March 2, 2006 10:25 PM PST
The history of government involvement in regulating various types of communications industries is not pretty to say the least. Whether it was the infamous "fairness doctrine" or cable monopolies, government intervention as invariably led to poorer quality, fewer choices or higher cost. This seems to be an effort to accomplish all three at once.
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'Free market' is nonsense
by J.G. March 3, 2006 2:30 AM PST
Turns on who government is at a given time. Republican
administrations overturned previous rules and allowed media
companies to become conglomerates. But, that did not have to
happen. It was a choice made by the same conservatives who
babble about 'competition' out of the other side of their mouths.

After the AT&T and Enron scandals, it appears that still nothing
has been learned. There are still far too many people incapable
of questioning the notion 'businesses know best.' There hasn't
really been a free market since the beginning of mercantile
capitalism, or perhaps sooner.

The role of government should be to protect the weak from the
powerful. In this scenario, the consumer is not the powerful
party, though some people are too foolish to realize that.
Not much difference, is there?
by casper2004 March 3, 2006 7:40 AM PST
Sen. Ron Wyden is just doing his part for the new world order. You see, the Democrats want to regulate us while the Republicans want to rule us. That's all there is to it!
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Telecom Scam
by jdbwar07 March 4, 2006 1:20 PM PST
The telecom companies have been ripping us all off for a very long time. The US now has very poor internet quality compared to other countries. In east asia, for example, they have 100mbps connections. The US is kind of the laughing stock for broadband service, which is sad considering it invented the internet.

If you care about the future of the internet in America, please take a quick look at this site:
www.newnetworks.com .

This site (and the book "The $200 Billion Broadband Scandal") tells how the telecom companies took $200 billion from US taxpayers in order to rewire America with high-speed fiber optic connections (45 mbps both ways), and then ripped us all off by keeping the money and not delivering.

Because of all this I think their claim that they need this type of thing to improve service is a bunch of bunk. If they really cared they would increase connection speeds to be more in line with other countries. Again, please look at newnetworks.com or teletruth.org . These companies have the ethics of Enron and need to be put in line.
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