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The anger people have for America results from laws like these. If we continue down this path, maybe something like the cold war will develop. The USA is putting those nations in an unnecessary crosshair.
A government will want to preserve its way of life. If the USA continues to target other countries, they eventually will be provoked.
Do I get grandfathered out of the Draft if I saw it coming and voted against it?
Things are changing. It?s popular to point at all non-followers and call them unpatriotic. America is not as free as I learned about in Government class.
Other governments should have the _freedom_ to do what they want. Even if you hate what they do, they should have the _freedom_ to choose it. And you should be SOL.
America is censored. The freedom is an illusion. I read in the news today that backup coppies of CDs soon will not be considered 'fair use.'
Maybe we?ll have a brain drain?
People are very angry with America. I do not believe that this law will help mend those feelings.
Those governments have that freedom. This law prohibits U.S. companies from helping to restrict freedoms of citizens from other countries. How does that make us more hated??
You wrote:"America is censored. The freedom is an illusion. I read in the news today that backup coppies of CDs soon will not be considered 'fair use.'
Based on your arguments that's what we want because we're allowing it. We have a democratic system that allows to vote the idiots out of office.... China doesn't. Unfortunately most Americans continue to re-elect the same morons.
Yes, I understand the U.S. has and still does truly evil things. But, when they take a step that speaks to the contrary, hypocritical or not, I'll support it.
The anger people have for America results from laws like these. If we continue down this path, maybe something like the cold war will develop. The USA is putting those nations in an unnecessary crosshair.
A government will want to preserve its way of life. If the USA continues to target other countries, they eventually will be provoked.
Do I get grandfathered out of the Draft if I saw it coming and voted against it?
Things are changing. It?s popular to point at all non-followers and call them unpatriotic. America is not as free as I learned about in Government class.
Other governments should have the _freedom_ to do what they want. Even if you hate what they do, they should have the _freedom_ to choose it. And you should be SOL.
America is censored. The freedom is an illusion. I read in the news today that backup coppies of CDs soon will not be considered 'fair use.'
Maybe we?ll have a brain drain?
People are very angry with America. I do not believe that this law will help mend those feelings.
Those governments have that freedom. This law prohibits U.S. companies from helping to restrict freedoms of citizens from other countries. How does that make us more hated??
You wrote:"America is censored. The freedom is an illusion. I read in the news today that backup coppies of CDs soon will not be considered 'fair use.'
Based on your arguments that's what we want because we're allowing it. We have a democratic system that allows to vote the idiots out of office.... China doesn't. Unfortunately most Americans continue to re-elect the same morons.
Yes, I understand the U.S. has and still does truly evil things. But, when they take a step that speaks to the contrary, hypocritical or not, I'll support it.
I do not agree with all points.
Their people will revolt when they have had enough. It is not our decision to govern them. They do and will govern themselves.
By allowing it, they want it.
It is the right of the people to live THEIR way, not OUR way.
If WE say THEY have X rights. Do they really?
If WE say WE have X rights. Do we really?
Even if you throw out the 'universal' word. Did they agree to them?
It's arguments like the ones you use, that were used to invade Iraq after the WMD were 'missing'
They are powerful and vague/loose arguments that can be used for a myriad of purposes.
Let's say the Flugn nation has oil that we want. Lets say that they have a law that says A Flugnite cannot drink beer. Suddenly we declare its your RIGHT to drink beer. So therefore, i'll invade, to preserve your freedoms and rights. Anyone who talks against, is unpatriotic and needs to leave the nation. Or be censored from the internet.
Oh who knows, it's just my 2c. I'm just a college student, still hoping for the utopia i learned about in High School Government class...
I do not agree with all points.
Their people will revolt when they have had enough. It is not our decision to govern them. They do and will govern themselves.
By allowing it, they want it.
It is the right of the people to live THEIR way, not OUR way.
If WE say THEY have X rights. Do they really?
If WE say WE have X rights. Do we really?
Even if you throw out the 'universal' word. Did they agree to them?
It's arguments like the ones you use, that were used to invade Iraq after the WMD were 'missing'
They are powerful and vague/loose arguments that can be used for a myriad of purposes.
Let's say the Flugn nation has oil that we want. Lets say that they have a law that says A Flugnite cannot drink beer. Suddenly we declare its your RIGHT to drink beer. So therefore, i'll invade, to preserve your freedoms and rights. Anyone who talks against, is unpatriotic and needs to leave the nation. Or be censored from the internet.
Oh who knows, it's just my 2c. I'm just a college student, still hoping for the utopia i learned about in High School Government class...
Welcome to the new Union of the Soviet States of Amerika, where our politicians impose new world order, on the whim of the dear leader and his cronies, where other countries WMD's exist in his mind, never mind reality!
Ain't democracy, with no freedoms wonderful!
Oh well, you pays for what you get, and get what you pays for!
Welcome to the new Union of the Soviet States of Amerika, where our politicians impose new world order, on the whim of the dear leader and his cronies, where other countries WMD's exist in his mind, never mind reality!
Ain't democracy, with no freedoms wonderful!
Oh well, you pays for what you get, and get what you pays for!
what's right and what wrong in someone else's country, in
someone else's culture . . . If you want to expand your business
into a foreign country, you RESPECT THEIR POLICIES no matter
how rediculous they may seem to you.
But maybe I'm wrong, maybe America is always right and it's
polices are God sanctioned . . . maybe we should force own
ideas and problems on to everyone else. Invade them, that's
what Jesus would want.
what's right and what wrong in someone else's country, in
someone else's culture . . . If you want to expand your business
into a foreign country, you RESPECT THEIR POLICIES no matter
how rediculous they may seem to you.
But maybe I'm wrong, maybe America is always right and it's
polices are God sanctioned . . . maybe we should force own
ideas and problems on to everyone else. Invade them, that's
what Jesus would want.
Google mistake was allowing themselves to become involed with local gov. If they want to bussiness there,fine. However, they should let the gov do the censoring, which they are going to do anyway. While they should respect the local gov. they should not get involed with it or allow it self to be used by it directly.
Thanks in advance for feedback.
They did this so they could access the local Chinese market with their advertisements as the do in the US.
China already has the second greatest number of internet users in the world--second only to the US. They already had their own search engines--one of which Google already owned a 2.6% interest in.
I agree with most of what you say but their internet is not limited except for government censorhip. Google and the others have done nothing to change that instead they have added to the ability to censor the net by collaborating with the dictatorial government.
Google mistake was allowing themselves to become involed with local gov. If they want to bussiness there,fine. However, they should let the gov do the censoring, which they are going to do anyway. While they should respect the local gov. they should not get involed with it or allow it self to be used by it directly.
Thanks in advance for feedback.
They did this so they could access the local Chinese market with their advertisements as the do in the US.
China already has the second greatest number of internet users in the world--second only to the US. They already had their own search engines--one of which Google already owned a 2.6% interest in.
I agree with most of what you say but their internet is not limited except for government censorhip. Google and the others have done nothing to change that instead they have added to the ability to censor the net by collaborating with the dictatorial government.
Lets start with any goverment administrator who has lied about current U.S. foreign policy. This would include the entire Bush administration and many members of congress.
Then lets inprison any employee of goverment involved in any illegal or immoral activity. This would include all who have participated in the illegal wiretaps of domestic communications.
Then lets move on to any public or private companies involved in illegal business transactions. This would involve all fortune 500 companies and others doing business with profits tied to the illegal occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
So, before you go calling the kettle black, I suggest that you have a hard look in the mirror and what congress labels repressive goverments!
Stanley Crawford, a U.S. citizen who lives and works in China.
Lets start with any goverment administrator who has lied about current U.S. foreign policy. This would include the entire Bush administration and many members of congress.
Then lets inprison any employee of goverment involved in any illegal or immoral activity. This would include all who have participated in the illegal wiretaps of domestic communications.
Then lets move on to any public or private companies involved in illegal business transactions. This would involve all fortune 500 companies and others doing business with profits tied to the illegal occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
So, before you go calling the kettle black, I suggest that you have a hard look in the mirror and what congress labels repressive goverments!
Stanley Crawford, a U.S. citizen who lives and works in China.
Lets start with any goverment administrator who has lied about current U.S. foreign policy. This would include the entire Bush administration and many members of congress.
Then lets inprison any employee of goverment involved in any illegal or immoral activity. This would include all who have participated in the illegal wiretaps of domestic communications.
Then lets move on to any public or private companies involved in illegal business transactions. This would involve all fortune 500 companies and others doing business with profits tied to the illegal occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
So, before you go calling the kettle black, I suggest that you have a hard look in the mirror and what congress labels repressive goverments!
Stanley Crawford, a U.S. citizen who lives and works in China.
Lets start with any goverment administrator who has lied about current U.S. foreign policy. This would include the entire Bush administration and many members of congress.
Then lets inprison any employee of goverment involved in any illegal or immoral activity. This would include all who have participated in the illegal wiretaps of domestic communications.
Then lets move on to any public or private companies involved in illegal business transactions. This would involve all fortune 500 companies and others doing business with profits tied to the illegal occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq.
So, before you go calling the kettle black, I suggest that you have a hard look in the mirror and what congress labels repressive goverments!
Stanley Crawford, a U.S. citizen who lives and works in China.
For that day on, it just became a joke. Everytime she goes and tries to prove me wrong, and looks at that little MADE IN print label on the toys, it would say MADE IN CHINA (in english, french, spanish languages).
We are partly responsible for China's economic success by continuing to buy products from it.
We make exceptions to the rules when it suits us. We continue to patronize these MADE IN CHINA products because they are easily affordable and it improves our lives, makes us happy.
These internet companies that operate in China do not affect us. It affects China's people. I guess they do not get the exception treatment because the result of them doing business there do not affect us directly.
Now we see ourselves as champions of Democracy and the oppressed. We oppose those that do not see things the way we do.
We dont like China's human rights policies, yet we fuel much of its growth through trade and buying their products. I guess buying products from them has nothing to do with Human rights principles that we all promote here. Where do you think all the money we pay China ot manufacture cheap goods go? It's certainly not for it's people (not entirely). I'm quite sure some of its TRILLIONS of dollars in revenues a year fund things like, let me see - oh yeah, the Communist party, Military, it's propaganda machine, etc, etc.
Just take a look at our situation with Cuba. We have a trade embargo with them because they are what? Like China?
- Talk about DOUBLE STANDARD
- by kmariach1234 February 16, 2006 6:39 PM PST
- My daughter and I had a revelation last Christmas. She asked where do all the toys come from. It was certainly not from the North Pole. I said to her that almost 100% of her toys are made from China.
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Showing 2 of 3 pages (84 Comments)For that day on, it just became a joke. Everytime she goes and tries to prove me wrong, and looks at that little MADE IN print label on the toys, it would say MADE IN CHINA (in english, french, spanish languages).
We are partly responsible for China's economic success by continuing to buy products from it.
We make exceptions to the rules when it suits us. We continue to patronize these MADE IN CHINA products because they are easily affordable and it improves our lives, makes us happy.
These internet companies that operate in China do not affect us. It affects China's people. I guess they do not get the exception treatment because the result of them doing business there do not affect us directly.
Now we see ourselves as champions of Democracy and the oppressed. We oppose those that do not see things the way we do.
We dont like China's human rights policies, yet we fuel much of its growth through trade and buying their products. I guess buying products from them has nothing to do with Human rights principles that we all promote here. Where do you think all the money we pay China ot manufacture cheap goods go? It's certainly not for it's people (not entirely). I'm quite sure some of its TRILLIONS of dollars in revenues a year fund things like, let me see - oh yeah, the Communist party, Military, it's propaganda machine, etc, etc.
Just take a look at our situation with Cuba. We have a trade embargo with them because they are what? Like China?