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required to have .xxx domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening porn
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want porn will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all government sites are
required to have .gov domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening government
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want government will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
[http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."|http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."]
required to have .xxx domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening porn
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want porn will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all government sites are
required to have .gov domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening government
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want government will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
[http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."|http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."]
Of course Bush is whacked anyway and the administration has far too many allegiances to base anything they do on actual merit or to think in terms of helping people... but that's not the point. Does the Bush Administration govern the Internet?
>> disallow viewing of porn on systems in their
>> homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
And magical fairy wings will allow parents to fly like butterflies! Weeeee!!!
Of course Bush is whacked anyway and the administration has far too many allegiances to base anything they do on actual merit or to think in terms of helping people... but that's not the point. Does the Bush Administration govern the Internet?
>> disallow viewing of porn on systems in their
>> homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
And magical fairy wings will allow parents to fly like butterflies! Weeeee!!!
I am not in to that crap, but like you said it has been around for evere, and I don't seeing it evere going away.
But if we get .xxx I can just block it.
Anybody got a nuke? we need to wipe out DC and start from scratch!
I am not in to that crap, but like you said it has been around for evere, and I don't seeing it evere going away.
But if we get .xxx I can just block it.
Anybody got a nuke? we need to wipe out DC and start from scratch!
Um, no, that's your job mom and dad. Little Johnny shouldn't have unfiltered, unmonitored access to the Internet any more than little Johnny should be able to wander around Times Square in New York or Soho in London by himself.
As for the impact on the registration process, all this latest administration meddling in the private sector will do is encourage further pressure from outside the United States to relinquish control of the domain name system from the USA, or worse, drive the adoption of a competing system. This sort of government interference from Washington is a real chafing point, and the "moral concerns" of some ill-educated Americans stunting the growth of overseas companies are simply going to accelerate the eventual schism -- diminishing US importance in the online economy.
Um, no, that's your job mom and dad. Little Johnny shouldn't have unfiltered, unmonitored access to the Internet any more than little Johnny should be able to wander around Times Square in New York or Soho in London by himself.
As for the impact on the registration process, all this latest administration meddling in the private sector will do is encourage further pressure from outside the United States to relinquish control of the domain name system from the USA, or worse, drive the adoption of a competing system. This sort of government interference from Washington is a real chafing point, and the "moral concerns" of some ill-educated Americans stunting the growth of overseas companies are simply going to accelerate the eventual schism -- diminishing US importance in the online economy.
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This ad sponsored by J.W. Bush and the Republicrat Party
provided that:
1. ALL adult entertainment/chat/dating services are moved to the .xxx domain.
2. adult content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a porn/smut website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real porn site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a porn site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail kiddie porn traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous porn hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates porn and adult content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if porn were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find playboy next to GI joe, and Playgirl next to barbie dolls in the toy section. .xxx is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter porn, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .xxx extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting adult content through non-.xxx websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put adult books out of sight of children. adult novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .xx should accomplish the same!
KKK is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to hate from our computers, provided that:
1. ALL hate content/chat/dating services are moved to the .KKK domain.
2. hate content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a hate website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real hate site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a hate site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail nazi hate traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous hate hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates hate and nazi content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if hate were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find Mein Kampf next to My Life in the book section. .kkk is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter hate, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .kkk extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting hate content through non-.kkk websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put hate books out of sight of children. hate novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .kkk should accomplish the same!
provided that:
1. ALL adult entertainment/chat/dating services are moved to the .xxx domain.
2. adult content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a porn/smut website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real porn site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a porn site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail kiddie porn traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous porn hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates porn and adult content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if porn were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find playboy next to GI joe, and Playgirl next to barbie dolls in the toy section. .xxx is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter porn, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .xxx extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting adult content through non-.xxx websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put adult books out of sight of children. adult novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .xx should accomplish the same!
KKK is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to hate from our computers, provided that:
1. ALL hate content/chat/dating services are moved to the .KKK domain.
2. hate content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a hate website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real hate site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a hate site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail nazi hate traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous hate hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates hate and nazi content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if hate were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find Mein Kampf next to My Life in the book section. .kkk is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter hate, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .kkk extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting hate content through non-.kkk websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put hate books out of sight of children. hate novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .kkk should accomplish the same!
Giving them .xxx is an admission of defeat to the goal and purpose of truly controlling porn. It is more of giving in to their existence and sending them off together in their very own place called .xxx.
We can live without porn. It is because there are people who actually support and institutionalize their presence that they remain. I wonder if they just happen to be good tax payers to even merit governments to involve themselves...
Giving them .xxx is an admission of defeat to the goal and purpose of truly controlling porn. It is more of giving in to their existence and sending them off together in their very own place called .xxx.
We can live without porn. It is because there are people who actually support and institutionalize their presence that they remain. I wonder if they just happen to be good tax payers to even merit governments to involve themselves...
Controlling it is a reasonable endeavor. I despise the use of children's development as the excuse for every action people take to censor something, but in this case it is clearly not at odds with rational argument. Controlling it, by means of limiting access to adults, seems logical.
The easiest way is to segregate the sites, and domain-level segregation is very easy. Whether the existing sites like it or not, they are subject to laws of the land. To be fair to them and their investment, allow them to register the 2nd level names with the new TLD, so whoever owns sex.com gets sex.xxx (presumably). I'm sure people will have a problem with it, but too bad.
Of course, you can mitigate the problem even more by allowing them to operate existing sites, with redirects to the xxx TLD. On redirect, the blocking s/w will work. Fines will eliminate pornographic redirect pages on non-xxx TLDs, but still act as funnels for traffic.
Stopping this is kind of segregation isn't really in the best interests of those seeking to protect children from accessing the sites. And it doesn't really represent a slippery slope, since the discussion doesn't involve the free exchange of ideas, only the free exchange of obscenity.
-R
Controlling it is a reasonable endeavor. I despise the use of children's development as the excuse for every action people take to censor something, but in this case it is clearly not at odds with rational argument. Controlling it, by means of limiting access to adults, seems logical.
The easiest way is to segregate the sites, and domain-level segregation is very easy. Whether the existing sites like it or not, they are subject to laws of the land. To be fair to them and their investment, allow them to register the 2nd level names with the new TLD, so whoever owns war.com gets war.gun (presumably). I'm sure people will have a problem with it, but too bad.
Of course, you can mitigate the problem even more by allowing them to operate existing sites, with redirects to the GUN TLD. On redirect, the blocking s/w will work. Fines will eliminate violent redirect pages on non-GUN TLDs, but still act as funnels for traffic.
Stopping this is kind of segregation isn't really in the best interests of those seeking to protect children from accessing the sites. And it doesn't really represent a slippery slope, since the discussion doesn't involve the free exchange of ideas, only the free exchange of violent imagery.
-G
Last, I checked, obscenity was in the eye of the beholder. "The only solution for bad free speech is more free speech." Just because you label my opinions as obscene as they are contrary to the moral code you subscribe to, doesn't make them an issue in my community. It's a very fine toothed comb to segregate every form of obscenity and profanity into domains - particularly when more than one is involved.
Personally, I find arguments against free speech to be obscene, but then, I don't want to prohibit obscenity.
- Hi. Porn exists. Get over it.
- by Remo_Williams August 17, 2005 10:58 AM PDT
- Controlling porn does not equal eliminating porn. Eliminating it is an extension of the assumption that your morality is universal; that idea is stupid and arrogant.
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- Hi. Violence exists. Get over it.
- by gerhard_schroeder August 17, 2005 11:11 AM PDT
- Controlling violent images does not equal eliminating violent images. Eliminating it is an extension of the assumption that your morality is universal; that idea is stupid and arrogant.
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- Slippery slope
- by Gorbag August 17, 2005 1:36 PM PDT
- "And it doesn't really represent a slippery slope, since the discussion doesn't involve the free exchange of ideas, only the free exchange of obscenity."
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- limiting access
- by George Cole June 1, 2007 6:29 PM PDT
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Showing 4 of 6 pages (229 Comments)Controlling it is a reasonable endeavor. I despise the use of children's development as the excuse for every action people take to censor something, but in this case it is clearly not at odds with rational argument. Controlling it, by means of limiting access to adults, seems logical.
The easiest way is to segregate the sites, and domain-level segregation is very easy. Whether the existing sites like it or not, they are subject to laws of the land. To be fair to them and their investment, allow them to register the 2nd level names with the new TLD, so whoever owns sex.com gets sex.xxx (presumably). I'm sure people will have a problem with it, but too bad.
Of course, you can mitigate the problem even more by allowing them to operate existing sites, with redirects to the xxx TLD. On redirect, the blocking s/w will work. Fines will eliminate pornographic redirect pages on non-xxx TLDs, but still act as funnels for traffic.
Stopping this is kind of segregation isn't really in the best interests of those seeking to protect children from accessing the sites. And it doesn't really represent a slippery slope, since the discussion doesn't involve the free exchange of ideas, only the free exchange of obscenity.
-R
Controlling it is a reasonable endeavor. I despise the use of children's development as the excuse for every action people take to censor something, but in this case it is clearly not at odds with rational argument. Controlling it, by means of limiting access to adults, seems logical.
The easiest way is to segregate the sites, and domain-level segregation is very easy. Whether the existing sites like it or not, they are subject to laws of the land. To be fair to them and their investment, allow them to register the 2nd level names with the new TLD, so whoever owns war.com gets war.gun (presumably). I'm sure people will have a problem with it, but too bad.
Of course, you can mitigate the problem even more by allowing them to operate existing sites, with redirects to the GUN TLD. On redirect, the blocking s/w will work. Fines will eliminate violent redirect pages on non-GUN TLDs, but still act as funnels for traffic.
Stopping this is kind of segregation isn't really in the best interests of those seeking to protect children from accessing the sites. And it doesn't really represent a slippery slope, since the discussion doesn't involve the free exchange of ideas, only the free exchange of violent imagery.
-G
Last, I checked, obscenity was in the eye of the beholder. "The only solution for bad free speech is more free speech." Just because you label my opinions as obscene as they are contrary to the moral code you subscribe to, doesn't make them an issue in my community. It's a very fine toothed comb to segregate every form of obscenity and profanity into domains - particularly when more than one is involved.
Personally, I find arguments against free speech to be obscene, but then, I don't want to prohibit obscenity.