Seriously...is there ANYTHING this administration/congress doesn't think it can dabble it's meddling fingers in? My message to Bushy: you don't HAVE to do anything, just leave it ALONE! The country would be better off with such a policy.
So much for "the market will come up with a solution" eh?
I absolutely agree. There is no problem that this big-spending nanny-state conservative government won't stick its finger in to "solve" (and end up making worse).
No use listing the many prior examples of how they've done this. I doubt C-NET has the storage capacity to hold such a long post anyway.
Seriously...is there ANYTHING this administration/congress doesn't think it can dabble it's meddling fingers in? My message to Bushy: you don't HAVE to do anything, just leave it ALONE! The country would be better off with such a policy.
So much for "the market will come up with a solution" eh?
I absolutely agree. There is no problem that this big-spending nanny-state conservative government won't stick its finger in to "solve" (and end up making worse).
No use listing the many prior examples of how they've done this. I doubt C-NET has the storage capacity to hold such a long post anyway.
I have thought for years .adu would be apropriate for adult oriented websites, but .xxx works fine also.. If these sites were off in their own corner of the internet it would almost act as a quarantine and stop the viewing of porn by children. It will not propogate an internet redlight district, there has been one for years.
I have thought for years .nazi would be apropriate for hate oriented websites, but .kkk works fine also.. If these sites were off in their own corner of the internet it would almost act as a quarantine and stop the viewing of hate by children. It will not propogate an internet fascist district, there has been one for years.
I have thought for years .adu would be apropriate for adult oriented websites, but .xxx works fine also.. If these sites were off in their own corner of the internet it would almost act as a quarantine and stop the viewing of porn by children. It will not propogate an internet redlight district, there has been one for years.
I have thought for years .nazi would be apropriate for hate oriented websites, but .kkk works fine also.. If these sites were off in their own corner of the internet it would almost act as a quarantine and stop the viewing of hate by children. It will not propogate an internet fascist district, there has been one for years.
Wrong! It would not be easier to block adult content as proposed.
Those who are saying that the proposal would make porn easier to block don't understand what was proposed. If you research the proposal, you will see that there was NO requirement for porn sites to move to the .xxx domain. In fact the proposers are so much against this that they have a $250k legal war chest to fight any attempts to require adult sites to locate there.
From an article here: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://*******.com/akcpf" target="_newWindow">http://*******.com/akcpf</a>
"Robert Corn-Revere, a lawyer hired by ICM to address free-speech issues, said the company has pledged $250,000 for a legal defense fund to keep ".xxx" voluntary..."
So adult information would still be all over .com and .net, etc. making any of your proposed "easier" filtering ideas a mute point.
Please take the time to understand this issue before commenting. Take a look here:
By looking at the org chart for the foundation that would advise the operators of this new domain name, you can see that the board membership is skewed NOT towards protecting children (1 board member who would do so) but towards the adult, free expression, and domain name constituencies (3 board members). How would that protect children?
Don't be fooled by the concept that a .xxx domain would protect children if run the way it was proposed. It might help but only if it is done right. This is one case where the US Government should be involved and although Bush has made mistakes on this issue in the past, he has a chance to redeem himself here.
Wrong! It would not be easier to block adult content as proposed.
Those who are saying that the proposal would make porn easier to block don't understand what was proposed. If you research the proposal, you will see that there was NO requirement for porn sites to move to the .xxx domain. In fact the proposers are so much against this that they have a $250k legal war chest to fight any attempts to require adult sites to locate there.
From an article here: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://*******.com/akcpf" target="_newWindow">http://*******.com/akcpf</a>
"Robert Corn-Revere, a lawyer hired by ICM to address free-speech issues, said the company has pledged $250,000 for a legal defense fund to keep ".xxx" voluntary..."
So adult information would still be all over .com and .net, etc. making any of your proposed "easier" filtering ideas a mute point.
Please take the time to understand this issue before commenting. Take a look here:
By looking at the org chart for the foundation that would advise the operators of this new domain name, you can see that the board membership is skewed NOT towards protecting children (1 board member who would do so) but towards the adult, free expression, and domain name constituencies (3 board members). How would that protect children?
Don't be fooled by the concept that a .xxx domain would protect children if run the way it was proposed. It might help but only if it is done right. This is one case where the US Government should be involved and although Bush has made mistakes on this issue in the past, he has a chance to redeem himself here.
Bush has made mistakes on this before but is on the right track this time.
When Bush signed the kids.us bill in 2002, he blew it and it was unfortunately a complete failure. If he really thinks this through he has an opportunity to effect positive change this time around.
The reason is because this proposal is half way right. There should be an "online red light district" however, just having such a place is no solution to protecting kids and easy filtering. It MUST be accompanied by a legal requirement that adult materials be placed there.
If Bush does that, he will have made the first real step to protecting kids online. There are many arguments against this but they don't hold water. We have standards for TV and they work. Those should be the minimum standards. Then if people want to allow adult or more lascivious content into their homes they can allow the .xxx or (in my opinion it should be called a .adu for adult) past their home Internet filters, they can do so.
The first effort was an attempt to separate kids content. It didn't work. Kids should have as much access as possible to the general Internet. The problem is that adult sites have usurped that right before the kids ever got online.
Separating adult content is the right approach if done properly and if enforced.
On a separate note, why are we as a country giving any special consideration to the adult porn business? What does that say about the United States? There are so many better ideas than this. ICANN should be ashamed of themselves for letting this go as far as it has.
... the only one in favor of this insanity, judging by the postings here. Maybe we should call this Joe Salvatore's Bill, sorta like the Terry Schiavo law?
Or maybe we should just make sure you don't get your hands on porn, Joe, and then the rest of us can be happy?
Bush has made mistakes on this before but is on the right track this time.
When Bush signed the kids.us bill in 2002, he blew it and it was unfortunately a complete failure. If he really thinks this through he has an opportunity to effect positive change this time around.
The reason is because this proposal is half way right. There should be an "online red light district" however, just having such a place is no solution to protecting kids and easy filtering. It MUST be accompanied by a legal requirement that adult materials be placed there.
If Bush does that, he will have made the first real step to protecting kids online. There are many arguments against this but they don't hold water. We have standards for TV and they work. Those should be the minimum standards. Then if people want to allow adult or more lascivious content into their homes they can allow the .xxx or (in my opinion it should be called a .adu for adult) past their home Internet filters, they can do so.
The first effort was an attempt to separate kids content. It didn't work. Kids should have as much access as possible to the general Internet. The problem is that adult sites have usurped that right before the kids ever got online.
Separating adult content is the right approach if done properly and if enforced.
On a separate note, why are we as a country giving any special consideration to the adult porn business? What does that say about the United States? There are so many better ideas than this. ICANN should be ashamed of themselves for letting this go as far as it has.
... the only one in favor of this insanity, judging by the postings here. Maybe we should call this Joe Salvatore's Bill, sorta like the Terry Schiavo law?
Or maybe we should just make sure you don't get your hands on porn, Joe, and then the rest of us can be happy?
instead of whether or not something is 'pornographic' which can be a subjected matter. instead if a website requires it's audience to be over 18, then it can switch to an address like .mat (mature) or something. when directed to a .mat address, a person can set their browser to block access with a password or something. any site could apply, but they don't necessarily have to. any porn site that wants to be seen as legit would want to switch. obviously with the nature of the internet, you can't regulate it completely and there would be rogue sites who refuse to switch (or at the very least redirect their .coms to a .mat), but self-respecting adult sites (as well as alcohol sites, etc) would give their users the ability to block their children from viewing the sites.
instead of whether or not something is 'pornographic' which can be a subjected matter. instead if a website requires it's audience to be over 18, then it can switch to an address like .mat (mature) or something. when directed to a .mat address, a person can set their browser to block access with a password or something. any site could apply, but they don't necessarily have to. any porn site that wants to be seen as legit would want to switch. obviously with the nature of the internet, you can't regulate it completely and there would be rogue sites who refuse to switch (or at the very least redirect their .coms to a .mat), but self-respecting adult sites (as well as alcohol sites, etc) would give their users the ability to block their children from viewing the sites.
Personally as a IT Manager and a father I feel that this would be a good thing for the internet. This would allow people that do not want to have this type of information to reach their homes or corporate networks to setup filters for it. In the current configuration blocking this pornography is quite difficult and can become expensive (in the corporate realm) if it does get in. I do not feel that this would be legitimizing this type of business, hey it has been around for years and I don't think that it is going away any time soon so why not give people a better way of controlling it. My teenager gets online all the time and although I do not worry much about what sites he is going to if I had a way to make sure this did not enter my house I would jump on that.
Personally as a IT Manager and a father I feel that this would be a good thing for the internet. This would allow people that do not want to have this type of information to reach their homes or corporate networks to setup filters for it. In the current configuration blocking this hate speech is quite difficult and can become expensive (in the corporate realm) if it does get in. I do not feel that this would be legitimizing this type of business, hey it has been around for years and I don't think that it is going away any time soon so why not give people a better way of controlling it. My teenager gets online all the time and although I do not worry much about what sites he is going to if I had a way to make sure this did not enter my house I would jump on that.
Personally as a IT Manager and a father I feel that this would be a good thing for the internet. This would allow people that do not want to have this type of information to reach their homes or corporate networks to setup filters for it. In the current configuration blocking this pornography is quite difficult and can become expensive (in the corporate realm) if it does get in. I do not feel that this would be legitimizing this type of business, hey it has been around for years and I don't think that it is going away any time soon so why not give people a better way of controlling it. My teenager gets online all the time and although I do not worry much about what sites he is going to if I had a way to make sure this did not enter my house I would jump on that.
Personally as a IT Manager and a father I feel that this would be a good thing for the internet. This would allow people that do not want to have this type of information to reach their homes or corporate networks to setup filters for it. In the current configuration blocking this hate speech is quite difficult and can become expensive (in the corporate realm) if it does get in. I do not feel that this would be legitimizing this type of business, hey it has been around for years and I don't think that it is going away any time soon so why not give people a better way of controlling it. My teenager gets online all the time and although I do not worry much about what sites he is going to if I had a way to make sure this did not enter my house I would jump on that.
I'm looking forward to the day when all porn sites are required to have .xxx domain url's. Much easier to make off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening porn when kids are doing research on the web. What's the matter with these people. The people who want porn will find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all hate sites are required to have .kkk domain url's. Much easier to make off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening hate when kids are doing research on the web. What's the matter with these people. The people who want hate will find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all government sites are required to have .gov domain url's. Much easier to make off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening government when kids are doing research on the web. What's the matter with these people. The people who want government will find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
[http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."|http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."]
I'm looking forward to the day when all porn sites are required to have .xxx domain url's. Much easier to make off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening porn when kids are doing research on the web. What's the matter with these people. The people who want porn will find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all hate sites are required to have .kkk domain url's. Much easier to make off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening hate when kids are doing research on the web. What's the matter with these people. The people who want hate will find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all government sites are required to have .gov domain url's. Much easier to make off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening government when kids are doing research on the web. What's the matter with these people. The people who want government will find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
[http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."|http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."]
So is porn (well not really, but it really exists) and among other things, .xxx would allow parents to completely disallow viewing of porn on systems in their homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
Of course Bush is whacked anyway and the administration has far too many allegiances to base anything they do on actual merit or to think in terms of helping people... but that's not the point. Does the Bush Administration govern the Internet?
>> .xxx would allow parents to completely >> disallow viewing of porn on systems in their >> homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
And magical fairy wings will allow parents to fly like butterflies! Weeeee!!!
So is porn (well not really, but it really exists) and among other things, .xxx would allow parents to completely disallow viewing of porn on systems in their homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
Of course Bush is whacked anyway and the administration has far too many allegiances to base anything they do on actual merit or to think in terms of helping people... but that's not the point. Does the Bush Administration govern the Internet?
>> .xxx would allow parents to completely >> disallow viewing of porn on systems in their >> homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
And magical fairy wings will allow parents to fly like butterflies! Weeeee!!!
Just what we need -- more big-government busybodies nosing in, deciding that the internet's primary function is to "protect their children."
Um, no, that's your job mom and dad. Little Johnny shouldn't have unfiltered, unmonitored access to the Internet any more than little Johnny should be able to wander around Times Square in New York or Soho in London by himself.
As for the impact on the registration process, all this latest administration meddling in the private sector will do is encourage further pressure from outside the United States to relinquish control of the domain name system from the USA, or worse, drive the adoption of a competing system. This sort of government interference from Washington is a real chafing point, and the "moral concerns" of some ill-educated Americans stunting the growth of overseas companies are simply going to accelerate the eventual schism -- diminishing US importance in the online economy.
Just what we need -- more big-government busybodies nosing in, deciding that the internet's primary function is to "protect their children."
Um, no, that's your job mom and dad. Little Johnny shouldn't have unfiltered, unmonitored access to the Internet any more than little Johnny should be able to wander around Times Square in New York or Soho in London by himself.
As for the impact on the registration process, all this latest administration meddling in the private sector will do is encourage further pressure from outside the United States to relinquish control of the domain name system from the USA, or worse, drive the adoption of a competing system. This sort of government interference from Washington is a real chafing point, and the "moral concerns" of some ill-educated Americans stunting the growth of overseas companies are simply going to accelerate the eventual schism -- diminishing US importance in the online economy.
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.xxx is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to porn from our computers, provided that: 1. ALL adult entertainment/chat/dating services are moved to the .xxx domain. 2. adult content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains. this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer. As it stands, anyone can open a porn/smut website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real porn site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it. by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them. additional benefits might be: if you want to run a porn site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail kiddie porn traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous porn hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates porn and adult content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet. an anology: if porn were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find playboy next to GI joe, and Playgirl next to barbie dolls in the toy section. .xxx is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure. instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter porn, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .xxx extension would probably be sufficient. especially if the penalty for promoting adult content through non-.xxx websites would be termination of the offending website. we made bookstores put adult books out of sight of children. adult novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .xx should accomplish the same!
I don't think ICANN approved your message. You may need to hold off on posting it to this .COM. It did not seem explicitly commercial to me. ANYWAY.
KKK is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to hate from our computers, provided that:
1. ALL hate content/chat/dating services are moved to the .KKK domain. 2. hate content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains. this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer. As it stands, anyone can open a hate website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real hate site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it. by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them. additional benefits might be: if you want to run a hate site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail nazi hate traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous hate hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates hate and nazi content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet. an anology: if hate were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find Mein Kampf next to My Life in the book section. .kkk is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure. instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter hate, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .kkk extension would probably be sufficient. especially if the penalty for promoting hate content through non-.kkk websites would be termination of the offending website. we made bookstores put hate books out of sight of children. hate novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .kkk should accomplish the same!
.xxx is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to porn from our computers, provided that: 1. ALL adult entertainment/chat/dating services are moved to the .xxx domain. 2. adult content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains. this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer. As it stands, anyone can open a porn/smut website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real porn site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it. by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them. additional benefits might be: if you want to run a porn site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail kiddie porn traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous porn hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates porn and adult content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet. an anology: if porn were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find playboy next to GI joe, and Playgirl next to barbie dolls in the toy section. .xxx is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure. instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter porn, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .xxx extension would probably be sufficient. especially if the penalty for promoting adult content through non-.xxx websites would be termination of the offending website. we made bookstores put adult books out of sight of children. adult novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .xx should accomplish the same!
I don't think ICANN approved your message. You may need to hold off on posting it to this .COM. It did not seem explicitly commercial to me. ANYWAY.
KKK is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to hate from our computers, provided that:
1. ALL hate content/chat/dating services are moved to the .KKK domain. 2. hate content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains. this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer. As it stands, anyone can open a hate website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real hate site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it. by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them. additional benefits might be: if you want to run a hate site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail nazi hate traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous hate hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates hate and nazi content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet. an anology: if hate were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find Mein Kampf next to My Life in the book section. .kkk is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure. instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter hate, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .kkk extension would probably be sufficient. especially if the penalty for promoting hate content through non-.kkk websites would be termination of the offending website. we made bookstores put hate books out of sight of children. hate novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .kkk should accomplish the same!
Bush is just taking time for checking with his supporters, specifically, the far right wing extremist religious nut jobs in this country. I guess they have not decided yet whether this idea is A Good Thing or A Bad Thing. You know, like they decided that letting the country turn its back on the frontiers of genetic science was A Good Thing, and then Bush made sure that became national policy. And there are SO many other examples. So, Bush will let us know as soon as he is told what to do.
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think it can dabble it's meddling fingers in? My message to Bushy:
you don't HAVE to do anything, just leave it ALONE! The country
would be better off with such a policy.
No use listing the many prior examples of how they've done this. I doubt C-NET has the storage capacity to hold such a long post anyway.
think it can dabble it's meddling fingers in? My message to Bushy:
you don't HAVE to do anything, just leave it ALONE! The country
would be better off with such a policy.
No use listing the many prior examples of how they've done this. I doubt C-NET has the storage capacity to hold such a long post anyway.
From an article here: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://*******.com/akcpf" target="_newWindow">http://*******.com/akcpf</a>
"Robert Corn-Revere, a lawyer hired by ICM to address free-speech issues, said the company has pledged $250,000 for a legal defense fund to keep ".xxx" voluntary..."
So adult information would still be all over .com and .net, etc. making any of your proposed "easier" filtering ideas a mute point.
Please take the time to understand this issue before commenting. Take a look here:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.iffor.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.iffor.org</a>
By looking at the org chart for the foundation that would advise the operators of this new domain name, you can see that the board membership is skewed NOT towards protecting children (1 board member who would do so) but towards the adult, free expression, and domain name constituencies (3 board members). How would that protect children?
Don't be fooled by the concept that a .xxx domain would protect children if run the way it was proposed. It might help but only if it is done right. This is one case where the US Government should be involved and although Bush has made mistakes on this issue in the past, he has a chance to redeem himself here.
From an article here: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://*******.com/akcpf" target="_newWindow">http://*******.com/akcpf</a>
"Robert Corn-Revere, a lawyer hired by ICM to address free-speech issues, said the company has pledged $250,000 for a legal defense fund to keep ".xxx" voluntary..."
So adult information would still be all over .com and .net, etc. making any of your proposed "easier" filtering ideas a mute point.
Please take the time to understand this issue before commenting. Take a look here:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.iffor.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.iffor.org</a>
By looking at the org chart for the foundation that would advise the operators of this new domain name, you can see that the board membership is skewed NOT towards protecting children (1 board member who would do so) but towards the adult, free expression, and domain name constituencies (3 board members). How would that protect children?
Don't be fooled by the concept that a .xxx domain would protect children if run the way it was proposed. It might help but only if it is done right. This is one case where the US Government should be involved and although Bush has made mistakes on this issue in the past, he has a chance to redeem himself here.
The reason is because this proposal is half way right. There should be an "online red light district" however, just having such a place is no solution to protecting kids and easy filtering. It MUST be accompanied by a legal requirement that adult materials be placed there.
If Bush does that, he will have made the first real step to protecting kids online. There are many arguments against this but they don't hold water. We have standards for TV and they work. Those should be the minimum standards. Then if people want to allow adult or more lascivious content into their homes they can allow the .xxx or (in my opinion it should be called a .adu for adult) past their home Internet filters, they can do so.
The first effort was an attempt to separate kids content. It didn't work. Kids should have as much access as possible to the general Internet. The problem is that adult sites have usurped that right before the kids ever got online.
Separating adult content is the right approach if done properly and if enforced.
On a separate note, why are we as a country giving any special consideration to the adult porn business? What does that say about the United States? There are so many better ideas than this. ICANN should be ashamed of themselves for letting this go as far as it has.
Sources:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.kids.us/index.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.kids.us/index.html</a>
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.kids.us/press/dotkids_news_12.04.02.pdf" target="_newWindow">http://www.kids.us/press/dotkids_news_12.04.02.pdf</a>
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.afsac.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.afsac.org</a>
here. Maybe we should call this Joe Salvatore's Bill, sorta like the
Terry Schiavo law?
Or maybe we should just make sure you don't get your hands on
porn, Joe, and then the rest of us can be happy?
The reason is because this proposal is half way right. There should be an "online red light district" however, just having such a place is no solution to protecting kids and easy filtering. It MUST be accompanied by a legal requirement that adult materials be placed there.
If Bush does that, he will have made the first real step to protecting kids online. There are many arguments against this but they don't hold water. We have standards for TV and they work. Those should be the minimum standards. Then if people want to allow adult or more lascivious content into their homes they can allow the .xxx or (in my opinion it should be called a .adu for adult) past their home Internet filters, they can do so.
The first effort was an attempt to separate kids content. It didn't work. Kids should have as much access as possible to the general Internet. The problem is that adult sites have usurped that right before the kids ever got online.
Separating adult content is the right approach if done properly and if enforced.
On a separate note, why are we as a country giving any special consideration to the adult porn business? What does that say about the United States? There are so many better ideas than this. ICANN should be ashamed of themselves for letting this go as far as it has.
Sources:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.kids.us/index.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.kids.us/index.html</a>
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.kids.us/press/dotkids_news_12.04.02.pdf" target="_newWindow">http://www.kids.us/press/dotkids_news_12.04.02.pdf</a>
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.afsac.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.afsac.org</a>
here. Maybe we should call this Joe Salvatore's Bill, sorta like the
Terry Schiavo law?
Or maybe we should just make sure you don't get your hands on
porn, Joe, and then the rest of us can be happy?
required to have .xxx domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening porn
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want porn will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all government sites are
required to have .gov domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening government
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want government will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
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required to have .xxx domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening porn
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want porn will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about how insidious it is now any more.
I'm looking forward to the day when all government sites are
required to have .gov domain url's. Much easier to make
off limits with any program. No "accidently" opening government
when kids are doing research on the web. What's the
matter with these people. The people who want government will
find it. Those of us who don't won't have to worry about
how insidious it is now any more.
[http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."|http://The point being that free speech rights should not create speech ghettos, and furthermore, one man's "problem" is another man's "solution."]
Of course Bush is whacked anyway and the administration has far too many allegiances to base anything they do on actual merit or to think in terms of helping people... but that's not the point. Does the Bush Administration govern the Internet?
>> disallow viewing of porn on systems in their
>> homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
And magical fairy wings will allow parents to fly like butterflies! Weeeee!!!
Of course Bush is whacked anyway and the administration has far too many allegiances to base anything they do on actual merit or to think in terms of helping people... but that's not the point. Does the Bush Administration govern the Internet?
>> disallow viewing of porn on systems in their
>> homes (if all porn was ONLY on .xxx domains).
And magical fairy wings will allow parents to fly like butterflies! Weeeee!!!
I am not in to that crap, but like you said it has been around for evere, and I don't seeing it evere going away.
But if we get .xxx I can just block it.
Anybody got a nuke? we need to wipe out DC and start from scratch!
I am not in to that crap, but like you said it has been around for evere, and I don't seeing it evere going away.
But if we get .xxx I can just block it.
Anybody got a nuke? we need to wipe out DC and start from scratch!
Um, no, that's your job mom and dad. Little Johnny shouldn't have unfiltered, unmonitored access to the Internet any more than little Johnny should be able to wander around Times Square in New York or Soho in London by himself.
As for the impact on the registration process, all this latest administration meddling in the private sector will do is encourage further pressure from outside the United States to relinquish control of the domain name system from the USA, or worse, drive the adoption of a competing system. This sort of government interference from Washington is a real chafing point, and the "moral concerns" of some ill-educated Americans stunting the growth of overseas companies are simply going to accelerate the eventual schism -- diminishing US importance in the online economy.
Um, no, that's your job mom and dad. Little Johnny shouldn't have unfiltered, unmonitored access to the Internet any more than little Johnny should be able to wander around Times Square in New York or Soho in London by himself.
As for the impact on the registration process, all this latest administration meddling in the private sector will do is encourage further pressure from outside the United States to relinquish control of the domain name system from the USA, or worse, drive the adoption of a competing system. This sort of government interference from Washington is a real chafing point, and the "moral concerns" of some ill-educated Americans stunting the growth of overseas companies are simply going to accelerate the eventual schism -- diminishing US importance in the online economy.
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provided that:
1. ALL adult entertainment/chat/dating services are moved to the .xxx domain.
2. adult content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a porn/smut website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real porn site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a porn site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail kiddie porn traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous porn hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates porn and adult content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if porn were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find playboy next to GI joe, and Playgirl next to barbie dolls in the toy section. .xxx is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter porn, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .xxx extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting adult content through non-.xxx websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put adult books out of sight of children. adult novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .xx should accomplish the same!
KKK is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to hate from our computers, provided that:
1. ALL hate content/chat/dating services are moved to the .KKK domain.
2. hate content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a hate website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real hate site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a hate site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail nazi hate traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous hate hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates hate and nazi content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if hate were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find Mein Kampf next to My Life in the book section. .kkk is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter hate, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .kkk extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting hate content through non-.kkk websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put hate books out of sight of children. hate novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .kkk should accomplish the same!
provided that:
1. ALL adult entertainment/chat/dating services are moved to the .xxx domain.
2. adult content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a porn/smut website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real porn site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a porn site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail kiddie porn traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous porn hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates porn and adult content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if porn were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find playboy next to GI joe, and Playgirl next to barbie dolls in the toy section. .xxx is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter porn, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .xxx extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting adult content through non-.xxx websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put adult books out of sight of children. adult novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .xx should accomplish the same!
KKK is a great idea for all of us who want to limit or exclude access to hate from our computers, provided that:
1. ALL hate content/chat/dating services are moved to the .KKK domain.
2. hate content is prohibited and regulated by ICANN from from all other domains.
this makes it easy for parental control software, schools, and anyone wishing NOT to view porn or porn related activities to totally exclude the posibility of accessing it from their computer.
As it stands, anyone can open a hate website under any name they so chose including misleading titles suchas(example,not a real hate site) www.marypoppins.net,www.disney-funx.com,,, you name it.
by sticking all the dirtballs with one domain name extension, you can easily exclude ALL of them.
additional benefits might be: if you want to run a hate site, you must be subject to scrutiny of content. it would be far easier to nail nazi hate traffickers this way. most people do not have the ability to keep up with the ingenuity of the thousands of unscrupulous hate hawkers online, and it becomes a full time job to protect children from them. cable television relegates hate and nazi content related items to specific channels, why shouldn't the internet.
an anology: if hate were marketed in the real world as it is on the internet, we could find Mein Kampf next to My Life in the book section. .kkk is not a seal of approval, it is definately a much needed organizational and control measure.
instead of having hundreds of different pieces of software that "trys" to filter hate, a simple, passworded add-on to browsers excluding the .kkk extension would probably be sufficient.
especially if the penalty for promoting hate content through non-.kkk websites would be termination of the offending website.
we made bookstores put hate books out of sight of children. hate novelty stores must be clearly marked and windows covered. .kkk should accomplish the same!