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The XXX domain is a no brainer for limiting access
I don't understand what the hoopla is all about. Right now, families and kids have no real way to filter out porn. With the XXX domain, filters and parents could simply limit any access to any website that ends in xxx.
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Posting without reading makes you look foolish
Didn't you see the other comments about how the porn promoters plan to keep their non-.xxx domains as well?

All this new domain gives them is the chance to use the names of existing web sites for pornographic purposes, for example ibm.xxx wouldn't take you to a site where you'd get help from IBM.

Since they have no intention of leaving the .com and other existing domains and there's no checks to keep them from using the new domain to mock others, there's no valid reason for them to have a new domain of their own.
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no real way to filter out porn
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Finally, something on which the US and the UN can agree
It is important to note that ICM Registry has recommended the ICANN board wait until September to deal with the .xxx TLD in light of the political winds blowing from the Bush Administration. Mr. Lawley is taking a business-like approach.

The problem is that the noise is not driven by business or even social concerns. It is political and reason is a weak weapon in that battle.

Odder still is that it is the .xxx TLD that has caused the UN and the US -- at odds over just about everything, including the ownership of the Internet -- to partner. Strange bedfellows, indeed.
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Finally, something on which the US and the UN can agree
It is important to note that ICM Registry has recommended the ICANN board wait until September to deal with the .xxx TLD in light of the political winds blowing from the Bush Administration. Mr. Lawley is taking a business-like approach.

The problem is that the noise is not driven by business or even social concerns. It is political and reason is a weak weapon in that battle.

Odder still is that it is the .xxx TLD that has caused the UN and the US -- at odds over just about everything, including the ownership of the Internet -- to partner. Strange bedfellows, indeed.
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Voluntary??
The .xxx suffix will be approved.
My gripe is this:
"We're focusing our attention on the Department of Commerce and ensuring that we're building this as a voluntary (top-level domain) for responsible companies," Jason Hendeles, founder of ICM Registry.

It should be mandated that all pornographic sites be placed under the .xxx suffix.
I know. What is porno to me might not be to you. I'm talking the obvious porno sites, we can quibble about the 5% that may or may not deserve the .xxx suffix later.
Sure would make filtering out porno much easier if it's all at .xxx
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Voluntary??
The .xxx suffix will be approved.
My gripe is this:
"We're focusing our attention on the Department of Commerce and ensuring that we're building this as a voluntary (top-level domain) for responsible companies," Jason Hendeles, founder of ICM Registry.

It should be mandated that all pornographic sites be placed under the .xxx suffix.
I know. What is porno to me might not be to you. I'm talking the obvious porno sites, we can quibble about the 5% that may or may not deserve the .xxx suffix later.
Sure would make filtering out porno much easier if it's all at .xxx
Posted by jabba (3 comments )
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xxx extenstion
Silly, this administration. Putting porn sites under xxx will help those who wish to block such sites will have an easier time than if the sites are as they are now -- .com

And, don't tell me that some of those yelling haven't looked at some porn site. How would they know what a porn site looks like if they haven't seen one. It is not a case of "I'll know it when I see it" situation.

azell@aol.com
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xxx extenstion
Silly, this administration. Putting porn sites under xxx will help those who wish to block such sites will have an easier time than if the sites are as they are now -- .com

And, don't tell me that some of those yelling haven't looked at some porn site. How would they know what a porn site looks like if they haven't seen one. It is not a case of "I'll know it when I see it" situation.

azell@aol.com
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Now Bush in charge of the Internet?????
I voted for him and still agree with many policy issues but, this ranks right up there with Algore inventing the Internet.
.xxx IS a method of Protecting Our Children and those who choose not to not to view such material.
You CANNOT eliminate this material from the net Mr. Bush. With this you can at least provide some more protection for those who need it !
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Now Bush in charge of the Internet?????
I voted for him and still agree with many policy issues but, this ranks right up there with Algore inventing the Internet.
.xxx IS a method of Protecting Our Children and those who choose not to not to view such material.
You CANNOT eliminate this material from the net Mr. Bush. With this you can at least provide some more protection for those who need it !
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Take a minute and think...
The arguement that a .xxx domain would have any influence over the number of websites of Pornographic nature is absurd. The Christian Right, or whoever gets off on censorship should take a minute and think. If a .xxx domain comes into existence, Parents would have the ability to block all websites with that suffix. If anything those seeking to keep children out of the realm of digital smut should be pushing for all pornographic websites to have that extension.
Pausing for Though,
CR
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I thought of more!
The arguement that a .kkk domain would have any influence over the number of websites of hate nature is absurd. The Socialist Left, or whoever gets off on censorship should take a minute and think. If a .kkk domain comes into existence, Parents would have the ability to block all websites with that suffix. If anything those seeking to keep children out of the realm of digital hate should be pushing for all hate websites to have that extension.
Pausing for Though,
GS
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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Take a minute and think...
The arguement that a .xxx domain would have any influence over the number of websites of Pornographic nature is absurd. The Christian Right, or whoever gets off on censorship should take a minute and think. If a .xxx domain comes into existence, Parents would have the ability to block all websites with that suffix. If anything those seeking to keep children out of the realm of digital smut should be pushing for all pornographic websites to have that extension.
Pausing for Though,
CR
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I thought of more!
The arguement that a .kkk domain would have any influence over the number of websites of hate nature is absurd. The Socialist Left, or whoever gets off on censorship should take a minute and think. If a .kkk domain comes into existence, Parents would have the ability to block all websites with that suffix. If anything those seeking to keep children out of the realm of digital hate should be pushing for all hate websites to have that extension.
Pausing for Though,
GS
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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.xxx domain makes sense
I agree with a previous statement made, pornography has been around for years and creating an .xxx domain is not legitimizing it, rather it is attempting to control it which, I favor as a parent. Currently pornography sites are using the .com domains and probably some others and it is hard to filter these sites out. If the .xxx domain name was used and laws were enacted that ALL adult content sites were to use this, you could literally set filters up on your home routers and prevent any .xxx site from coming up. To me as a parent this is an easy and simple way to control content such as this.
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.kkk domain makes sense
I agree with a previous statement made, hate has been around for years and creating an .kkk domain is not legitimizing it, rather it is attempting to control it which, I favor as a parent. Currently hate sites are using the .com domains and probably some others and it is hard to filter these sites out. If the .kkk domain name was used and laws were enacted that ALL hate content sites were to use this, you could literally set filters up on your home routers and prevent any .kkk site from coming up. To me as a parent this is an easy and simple way to control content such as this.
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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It's not going to be required
That's the point Nate. It would be easy if it were required but it is not going to be required so your filtering idea can't work and will only serve to make it more confusing for people to filter out porn.

This is a faulty plan with a great idea being used as a ruse to get it approved.
Posted by joezeppy (33 comments )
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.xxx domain makes sense
I agree with a previous statement made, pornography has been around for years and creating an .xxx domain is not legitimizing it, rather it is attempting to control it which, I favor as a parent. Currently pornography sites are using the .com domains and probably some others and it is hard to filter these sites out. If the .xxx domain name was used and laws were enacted that ALL adult content sites were to use this, you could literally set filters up on your home routers and prevent any .xxx site from coming up. To me as a parent this is an easy and simple way to control content such as this.
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.kkk domain makes sense
I agree with a previous statement made, hate has been around for years and creating an .kkk domain is not legitimizing it, rather it is attempting to control it which, I favor as a parent. Currently hate sites are using the .com domains and probably some others and it is hard to filter these sites out. If the .kkk domain name was used and laws were enacted that ALL hate content sites were to use this, you could literally set filters up on your home routers and prevent any .kkk site from coming up. To me as a parent this is an easy and simple way to control content such as this.
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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It's not going to be required
That's the point Nate. It would be easy if it were required but it is not going to be required so your filtering idea can't work and will only serve to make it more confusing for people to filter out porn.

This is a faulty plan with a great idea being used as a ruse to get it approved.
Posted by joezeppy (33 comments )
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Great Idea
Force all XXX sites to conform with it and there can be software made to block these sites. Otherwise, there is no way to block them.
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there is no way to block
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Posted by George Cole (314 comments )
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Great Idea
Force all XXX sites to conform with it and there can be software made to block these sites. Otherwise, there is no way to block them.
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there is no way to block
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Shades of Gray - Content Advisor
I agree with some of the other posters that the xxx domain would have value only as a marketing tool. After all, adult content cannot be categorized by a 1 or 0.

While there is a large amount of mature content online, there does not generally appear to be any intent [by websites] to disseminate the content to children. Thus, it is likely that further adoption of ratings standards for "adult" material would be much easier than the promotion of xxx sites.

Maybe a better approach than adding a simplistic xxx domain is to 'encourage' adoption of ICRA facilities like IE's Content Advisor?

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.icra.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.icra.org</a>

With a few settings adjustments, distinct categorization allows end users to not be "fooled" into viewing material that they do not personally find appropriate (animals/gay/etc.). All that remains is how adults/parents would decide how they want to handle "Unrated" content -- which may originate from other nations not so compelled to honor the system (e.g., may require parental password to access).
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Anything
I would agree to any sensible measure that would allow the ability to identify and filter adult content, enact laws to penalize ISP provides who provide internet services to non compliant sites in order to allow me as a parent to control undesirable content. I do not care if it is a .xxx domain or some other mechanism. Anything is better that what there is now.
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Shades of Gray - Content Advisor
I agree with some of the other posters that the xxx domain would have value only as a marketing tool. After all, adult content cannot be categorized by a 1 or 0.

While there is a large amount of mature content online, there does not generally appear to be any intent [by websites] to disseminate the content to children. Thus, it is likely that further adoption of ratings standards for "adult" material would be much easier than the promotion of xxx sites.

Maybe a better approach than adding a simplistic xxx domain is to 'encourage' adoption of ICRA facilities like IE's Content Advisor?

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.icra.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.icra.org</a>

With a few settings adjustments, distinct categorization allows end users to not be "fooled" into viewing material that they do not personally find appropriate (animals/gay/etc.). All that remains is how adults/parents would decide how they want to handle "Unrated" content -- which may originate from other nations not so compelled to honor the system (e.g., may require parental password to access).
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Anything
I would agree to any sensible measure that would allow the ability to identify and filter adult content, enact laws to penalize ISP provides who provide internet services to non compliant sites in order to allow me as a parent to control undesirable content. I do not care if it is a .xxx domain or some other mechanism. Anything is better that what there is now.
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Un-encumbered by the thought process...
The Administration is clearly NOT thinking clearly here, but then what else is new...

I think this is a speech issue here. I'm not defending the adult industry at all, however...

Is it not better to have these kinds of sites under one umbrella, so to speak? A parent, group, company etc can block the root domain. Far easier than a site by site basis. Having this root domain makes so musch sense, that it's not even funny. However to put a hold on it is. Perhaps the special interest groups are concerned that their member might get caught surfing the wrong stuff? .xxx and you know where you are...

And if you object to this sort of thing, don't load the page. Same idea with televsion, if you don't like what you are seeing change the channel. Web surfing is an active process, you choose to click here. In some cases you get pop-up -ed but for the most part you choose.

In the land of the free and the home of the brave, please do not force your standards upon me, let me choose what is objectionable and what is not.
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Thought process 2.0; .KKK TLD
I think this is a speech issue here. I'm not defending the hate industry at all, however...

Is it not better to have these kinds of sites under one umbrella, so to speak? A parent, group, company etc can block the root .KKK domain. Far easier than a site by site basis. Having this root domain makes so musch sense, that it's not even funny. However to put a hold on it is. Perhaps the special interest groups are concerned that their member might get caught surfing the wrong stuff? .kkk and you know where you are...

And if you object to this sort of thing, don't load the page. Same idea with televsion, if you don't like what you are seeing change the channel. Web surfing is an active process, you choose to click here. In some cases you get pop-up -ed but for the most part you choose.

In the land of the free and the home of the brave, please do not force your standards upon me, let me choose what is objectionable and what is not.
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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Un-encumbered by the thought process...
The Administration is clearly NOT thinking clearly here, but then what else is new...

I think this is a speech issue here. I'm not defending the adult industry at all, however...

Is it not better to have these kinds of sites under one umbrella, so to speak? A parent, group, company etc can block the root domain. Far easier than a site by site basis. Having this root domain makes so musch sense, that it's not even funny. However to put a hold on it is. Perhaps the special interest groups are concerned that their member might get caught surfing the wrong stuff? .xxx and you know where you are...

And if you object to this sort of thing, don't load the page. Same idea with televsion, if you don't like what you are seeing change the channel. Web surfing is an active process, you choose to click here. In some cases you get pop-up -ed but for the most part you choose.

In the land of the free and the home of the brave, please do not force your standards upon me, let me choose what is objectionable and what is not.
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Thought process 2.0; .KKK TLD
I think this is a speech issue here. I'm not defending the hate industry at all, however...

Is it not better to have these kinds of sites under one umbrella, so to speak? A parent, group, company etc can block the root .KKK domain. Far easier than a site by site basis. Having this root domain makes so musch sense, that it's not even funny. However to put a hold on it is. Perhaps the special interest groups are concerned that their member might get caught surfing the wrong stuff? .kkk and you know where you are...

And if you object to this sort of thing, don't load the page. Same idea with televsion, if you don't like what you are seeing change the channel. Web surfing is an active process, you choose to click here. In some cases you get pop-up -ed but for the most part you choose.

In the land of the free and the home of the brave, please do not force your standards upon me, let me choose what is objectionable and what is not.
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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Finish the Job
We need to finish the job and force all X rated sites to use .xxx domain and close their .com, .net, etc. domains. We will never get all of them but that shouldnt stop us from trying. This would go along way towards true filtering of this type of content by corporations, schools, parents, etc.

I'm not sure what the administration is thinking by blowing this -- do they think that not allowing this TLD will stop porn sites? Can the be that stupid. Or do they just want to be able to keep surfing the stuff with and still be able to say -- "I must have had a typo in the URL" -- that won't fly if the URL has a .xxx (sorry the cynic in me came out).

I think it is all about appearances. The administration does not want to be the ones in office when a .xxx TLD was put in place. They need to turn this around and finish the job and look like they are protecting our children -- but that requires skills (insert your own list) that they do not have.
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Bush was right to seek more input.
Kurt,

You are right that we need to finish the job, but so was Bush in stopping this approval. Don't forget that the people who proposed this domain had a $250 legal war chest in place (not counting the adult industry's own substantial war chest) and publicly stated that they would fight any attempts to force adult content into the .xxx space.

This whole proposal was sponsored by the adult industry and the domain name industries and is way more about making money than protecting kids. Let's not be fooled.

There is merit in creating an adult domain name space, but doing so without requirements and consequences for those that don't follow the requirements is completely counter productive. In addition, this is an area that needs government involvement. It will never be solved only by private industry. (by the way, I am a conservative but I'm also a realist).

info@afsac.org
Posted by joezeppy (33 comments )
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Finish the Job
We need to finish the job and force all X rated sites to use .xxx domain and close their .com, .net, etc. domains. We will never get all of them but that shouldnt stop us from trying. This would go along way towards true filtering of this type of content by corporations, schools, parents, etc.

I'm not sure what the administration is thinking by blowing this -- do they think that not allowing this TLD will stop porn sites? Can the be that stupid. Or do they just want to be able to keep surfing the stuff with and still be able to say -- "I must have had a typo in the URL" -- that won't fly if the URL has a .xxx (sorry the cynic in me came out).

I think it is all about appearances. The administration does not want to be the ones in office when a .xxx TLD was put in place. They need to turn this around and finish the job and look like they are protecting our children -- but that requires skills (insert your own list) that they do not have.
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Bush was right to seek more input.
Kurt,

You are right that we need to finish the job, but so was Bush in stopping this approval. Don't forget that the people who proposed this domain had a $250 legal war chest in place (not counting the adult industry's own substantial war chest) and publicly stated that they would fight any attempts to force adult content into the .xxx space.

This whole proposal was sponsored by the adult industry and the domain name industries and is way more about making money than protecting kids. Let's not be fooled.

There is merit in creating an adult domain name space, but doing so without requirements and consequences for those that don't follow the requirements is completely counter productive. In addition, this is an area that needs government involvement. It will never be solved only by private industry. (by the way, I am a conservative but I'm also a realist).

info@afsac.org
Posted by joezeppy (33 comments )
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Easier to block stupid people!!!!!!
It would be SO MUCH EASIER to filter and have parental control if porn sites had to have the .xxx domain. Anyone with a brain would know that. These people who are objecting to this are close minded and don't see deeper into this. They see "oh no PORN. PORN BAD ME STOP" Ask your friendly IT person people they will tell you!
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Filter the Klan too please!
It would be SO MUCH EASIER to filter and have parental control if hate sites had to have the .kkk domain. Anyone with a brain would know that. These people who are objecting to this are close minded and don't see deeper into this. They see "oh no HATE. HATE BAD ME STOP" Ask your friendly IT person people they will tell you!
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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Easier to block stupid people!!!!!!
It would be SO MUCH EASIER to filter and have parental control if porn sites had to have the .xxx domain. Anyone with a brain would know that. These people who are objecting to this are close minded and don't see deeper into this. They see "oh no PORN. PORN BAD ME STOP" Ask your friendly IT person people they will tell you!
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Filter the Klan too please!
It would be SO MUCH EASIER to filter and have parental control if hate sites had to have the .kkk domain. Anyone with a brain would know that. These people who are objecting to this are close minded and don't see deeper into this. They see "oh no HATE. HATE BAD ME STOP" Ask your friendly IT person people they will tell you!
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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.xxx easier to censor
Wouldn't it make it alot easier for parents and adults concerned to censor the internet if all the pronography websites were registered through a .xxx domain? Keep all the trash in one catagory and it makes it easier to avoid it.
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Absolutely Right
If all the porn sites used the .xxx domain it'd be trivial to block them all. People who dislike porn should support the .xxx domain and ask that it be the mandatory domain for porn sites.
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.kkk is more important to censor
&gt;&gt; Wouldn't it make it alot easier for parents
&gt;&gt; and adults concerned to censor the internet if
&gt;&gt; all the pronography websites were registered
&gt;&gt; through a .xxx domain?

Why stop there? Lets have all violent images go to a .GUN TLD for quick and easy censoring. And then we can move all ****-erotic images to .GAY and get rid of those next... and after that we will create a .PEE for pictures and conversations that deal with defecation. And this will pave the way for .KKK for hate speech. And the internet will live HAPPILY EVER AFTER and be PURE AND CLEAN for ever, right? RIGHT!

Actually, .KKK is much more important to filter and censor from children than .XXX. Where are your priorities people? Come on my liberal friends, rally 'round my .KKK proposal! I bet Bush is against that too! Teh fascist!!
Posted by gerhard_schroeder (311 comments )
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.xxx easier to censor
Wouldn't it make it alot easier for parents and adults concerned to censor the internet if all the pronography websites were registered through a .xxx domain? Keep all the trash in one catagory and it makes it easier to avoid it.
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Absolutely Right
If all the porn sites used the .xxx domain it'd be trivial to block them all. People who dislike porn should support the .xxx domain and ask that it be the mandatory domain for porn sites.
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.kkk is more important to censor
&gt;&gt; Wouldn't it make it alot easier for parents
&gt;&gt; and adults concerned to censor the internet if
&gt;&gt; all the pronography websites were registered
&gt;&gt; through a .xxx domain?

Why stop there? Lets have all violent images go to a .GUN TLD for quick and easy censoring. And then we can move all ****-erotic images to .GAY and get rid of those next... and after that we will create a .PEE for pictures and conversations that deal with defecation. And this will pave the way for .KKK for hate speech. And the internet will live HAPPILY EVER AFTER and be PURE AND CLEAN for ever, right? RIGHT!

Actually, .KKK is much more important to filter and censor from children than .XXX. Where are your priorities people? Come on my liberal friends, rally 'round my .KKK proposal! I bet Bush is against that too! Teh fascist!!
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