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In 2008, a federally approved ID card may be required to travel, open a bank account, even collect Social Security.
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What's Next
by shejones December 14, 2005 1:11 PM PST
Well the only I can say about this is the next step they will take the government will take is in Revelation people will either have to take the mark of the beast which is 666 or they will not be able to eat or buy anything unless they have that mark either on their foreheads or on their hands. The bible must be fullfilled so this comes to no surprise to me. I don't like the idea of the "Real ID" but what can we do about it, nothing.
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watch out..you are right
by collegeboy360 December 14, 2005 11:44 PM PST
I must agree..Althought its not clear, and the 666 mark is perhaps still out of sight, I would watch my back on this one, you better stay on your knees, pray God that you are ready to counter the day they ask you to put that mark..Oh and that ID stuff, my comments just might be too explicit for this site (I love u c|net!lol)
A Forum Fighting this Law
by Oberdan December 19, 2005 4:32 AM PST
http://xsorbit29.com/users5/abolishrealid/index.php

This is a new forum where folks are fighting to end this law. Not many people on it yet, but they're going to grow.

Put an end to this law!

DR
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How?
by shejones December 20, 2005 12:46 PM PST
How do we put an end to law besides pray?
THE NEW NAZI REAL I.D.
by December 29, 2005 6:38 AM PST
Well I am already affected since my Driver's license
in Va. Expired May 30th 2005 and this BRITISH COMMONWEALTH has REFUSED TO RENEW MY LICENSE AND HAS REFUSED TO ACCEPT MY NOTORIZED I.D. DOCUMENTS. This REFUSAL has come from "THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT"

Think on this:
It's Friday Night and you go to the local Supermarket to BUY your routine weeks groceries. You spend one or two hours shopping for so called bargins filling up two shopping carts. Finally you and your wife heads for the Checkout Counter. With Cash in your hand, You insert your NATIONAL I.D. Driver's License into the reader and wait as there seems to be a delay ? Then the Register Readout displays that "YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO TRANSACT THESE PURCHASES " WHAT? You become upset, Your Wife takes out her National I.D. Card and inserts it in the reader and the same message appears. You become very much angry asking "WHY?" The Cashier warns you several times, "PLEASE LEAVE THE PREMISES IMMEDIATELY OR I MUST CALL SECURITY" So Finally you leave upset and confused Not Knowing that Your Personnel Profile has just been updated and is now RED FLAGGED as " VIOLENT, and DANGEROUS" (I am RED FLAGGED Myself now by the FBI and other Alphabet Agencies)You go to your car and begin to drive home but as soon as you enter the Highway two State Police cars pull you over. As the Trooper DEMANDS you Nat I.D. Driver's License a second Trooper holds and automatic shotgun pointed at your wife on the Passenger side of the carwhile a third trooper holds a Shotgun Aimed at your rear window.
You and your Wife's Licenses are put through the reader in a trooper's car and you are firmly Ordered to Exit your car afterwhich both of uyou are handled roughly and do to your protests at the rough handling of your wife you are informed of added charges such as resisting arrest, Assult of Law enforcement Officers ( 4 counts), Obstruction of Justice, Obstruction of Government Administration and a few other nice charges each of which carry 5-10 prison sentence and it's your word against the word of 4 state Troopers. Among the original Charges You face are: In Poscession of a FalseI.D. Card, Driving on a Revoked License (it does not matter you were never notified) Presenting a FALSE I.D. To Law Enforecement (about 6 counts of Fraud) Counterfeiting and forgery, WHAT ? Yes you see when your card was revoked it then become a Fraudulant I.D. Card and since it bears your electronic signature it now comes under forgery and Counterfeiting and in all about 20 related charges each carrying 10 or more years felony and since you will be facing more than 3 felonys you'll get life automnatically under the 3 time looser law. You wife of course is an accessory to all your crimes because she did not turn you into the authorities and she too will get in a delightful FEMA Concentration Camp. ( The camp Signs Read "FEMA Civilian LABOR Internment Camp" Even while you were being arrested a Federal Task Force was in your House going through and inventorying all you have. Child Protection Services Guarded by a NEW SWAT TEAM, went to the Grade School to Arrest your Children, if your kids
arein good health they will be sold for a high price to a Corporate Laboratory for Experiements in BIO/CHEM Agents and Drugs. REF:
EPA 'APPROVES' Testing Pesticides on Abused/Neglected Children http://nationaldebunker.blogspot.com/2005/09/epa-approves-testing-pesticides-on.html
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WARNING EPA TO ALLOW PESTICIDE TESTING ON ORPHANS & MENTALLY HANDICAPPED CHILDREN http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa6.cfm
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EPA Proposal Would Allow Human Tests Of Pesticides on CHILDREN PREGNANT WOMAN AND PRISONERS http://www.chej.org/WashPostEPA.htm
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WE THE PEOPLE CHOOSE WHAT THIS WORLD WILL BE, AND IF YOU TRY TO SIT ON THE NUETRAL FENCE, YOUR CHOICE IS MADE BY DEFAULT IN FAVOR OF THE ENEMY OF ALL MANKIND !

Can't Happen Here ? Too Far out ? Well simular events happened to me in 1971 long before any Patriot Acts.
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Some Videos Associated with Law Enforcement
by December 29, 2005 7:13 AM PST
NOTE all the Addresses below area direct Video Download, each has been checked out and is safe. Check them out as you wish for whatever. BUT PLEASE DO Watch them.

One Film called "BUSTED" is sourced (Original Source) from the ADL. I well know what the ADL is, and it's backing, however it's legal information is Accurate and well presented. I go where ever I can get good Accurate information.

VIDEO War_On_Drugs__Prison_Profiteering__Total_Scam Police for Profit $$$ http://www.1984videos.com/police_state/War_On_Drugs__prison_profiteering__total_scam__DNW_english.mpg

This and other Videos are at http://www.1984videos.com/

VIDEO American Drug Lords_CIA_Mob_Drug_Running http://www.1984videos.com/police_state/AmericanDrugLords_CIA_mob_drug_running.mpg

BUSTED Know your RIGHTS and ASSERT THEM VIDEO http://www.1984videos.com/police_state/HowToAvoidArrest_Busted_TheCitizensGuideToSurvivingPoliceEncounters.mpg

VIDEO DELIBERATE GENOCIDE AVIAN FLU http://www.1984videos.com/genocide/Avian_flu_depopulation_pharmaceutical_scam_DrLenHorowitz.mp3

VIDEO Population_Control__None_Dare_Call_it_Genocide_by_Dr_Stanley_Monteith http://www.1984videos.com/genocide/Population_Control__None_Dare_Call_it_Genocide_by_Dr_Stanley_Monteith.wmv

How Our "Elected" and Appointed Politicians Are Connected By Bloodlines http://www.illuminati-news.com/royal-trees.htm

OLD SYSTEM STILL IN 600 Planes --> HOME-RUN SYSTEM for Flying Commercial Airliners Remotely Controlled http://geocities.com/mknemesis/homerun.html
The European Airlines REMOVED the SYSTEM at great expsense due to the misstrust of the U.S. Government

BEYOND TREASON VIDEO U.S. Armed Forces http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4658738481450976252&q=beyond+treason

Why Does GW Bush do and act like he does ? You mean to say you NEVER check out the Family History and Backgrounds of those you Vote for ?

Video CONGRESSIONAL RECORDS Bush Family Tied To Nazis & OVERTHROW OF THE USA in 1934 http://illuminati-news.com/Videos/keeping-it-in-the-family.wmv

I Would like to know WHY GW BUSH is not Arrested for COCAIN POSCESSION in the Whitehouse and Capital Building ?

Frederick J Gagnon USMC Clipper-5 Asia
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NATIONAL ID BILL
by GITARGUY March 29, 2006 9:23 AM PST
WHY COME UP W/ A NEW LAW WHEN THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE AREN'T OBSERVED? THIS IS A PRECURSER TO SOMETHING THAT WILL BECOME VERY HORRIBLE. READ REVELATIONS.
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Spelling
by kavwii April 2, 2006 6:58 AM PDT
Will our names be spelled correctly or will we have to accept the spelling of some dumb clerk?

Who ever entered my data made 3 spelling mistakes in my last name.
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Trading liberty for safety
by k9lupis April 9, 2006 8:36 PM PDT
I think your right on all accounts here. The only people this law will affect are the law abiding citizens. Its like saying we can control gun violence with more gun control laws. What they are refusing to see is that criminals dont go down buy a gun and register it then go out and commit a crime. no they buy guns on the streets and the alley ways. If the terrorist want they can and will find a way in and around the system. Then all your gonna have is ton of citizens who will have this little chip that can be tracked and all your criminals skulking around in the shadows waiting for their next victim. Why arent the being tracked??? because they dont follow the law, plain and simple

Robert
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bush is a dictator
by Lola192623 April 19, 2006 9:40 PM PDT
be very scared and be aware people.
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Looks like an ID Card Smells like an Implanted Chip
by enowtv May 24, 2006 5:48 AM PDT
Have no fear about your ID Card being Lost or Stolen and Copied - There's no need to fear, Big Brother is here. You can't lose your head over this, it's attached - Just like the Implanted Chip will be. Read the related article - things are already in motion. Homeland Security has thought of everything, so you don't have to.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14913
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NWO?
by bustaballs May 29, 2006 12:03 AM PDT
Yet another major step toward dictatorship. It's only a matter of time. Our constitution is being torn to shreads by our "so called" leaders. They keep saying all of this is for our "security".

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

This is suppose to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. We are losing more and more freedoms every day and where are our brave patriots? Oh yeah! Hiding behind this future dictatorship's illusion of security.

"If you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." -- Benjamin Franklin

This is evil. The patriot act is evil. The gun bans are evil and so is everything else that tears apart the US Constitution. Don't follow these people. Protect your freedoms! Protect your Constitutional rights. Get guns if you don't have them.. while you still can.

Don't be so gullible as to follow everything your government tells you. They even show on The History Channel about how we knew about the Pearl Harbor attacks way beforehand. It's fact.

It's happened far more times than just that. The government never gives you the full story. What was on the 12 surveillance tapes that they never released to the US during the OK City bombing? They said nothing was on them. Why not prove it?
Who was John Doe #2? Will the people ever know?

There's plenty of evidence of the truth on what happened on 9/11 out there. There is even videos that have NO crazy conspiracy theorys in them.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911+eyewitness

That video is pure live footage of a man who recorded what happened himself. They then use scientific laws and mathematics to find out what happened.

If you are interested in further information please visit www.infowars.com

Search for Alex Jones' videos and many others on www.video.google.com and www.youtube.com

You don't have to believe him but watch his videos Look at all of the resources all through out his site.

We can fight back against this evil.
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Stop the madness!
by bustaballs May 29, 2006 12:05 AM PDT
Yet another major step toward dictatorship. It's only a matter of time. Our constitution is being torn to shreads by our "so called" leaders. They keep saying all of this is for our "security".

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

This is suppose to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. We are losing more and more freedoms every day and where are our brave patriots? Oh yeah! Hiding behind this future dictatorship's illusion of security.

"If you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." -- Benjamin Franklin

This is evil. The patriot act is evil. The gun bans are evil and so is everything else that tears apart the US Constitution. Don't follow these people. Protect your freedoms! Protect your Constitutional rights. Get guns if you don't have them.. while you still can.

Don't be so gullible as to follow everything your government tells you. They even show on The History Channel about how we knew about the Pearl Harbor attacks way beforehand. It's fact.

It's happened far more times than just that. The government never gives you the full story. What was on the 12 surveillance tapes that they never released to the US during the OK City bombing? They said nothing was on them. Why not prove it?
Who was John Doe #2? Will the people ever know?

There's plenty of evidence of the truth on what happened on 9/11 out there. There is even videos that have NO crazy conspiracy theorys in them.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911+eyewitness

That video is pure live footage of a man who recorded what happened himself. They then use scientific laws and mathematics to find out what happened.

If you are interested in further information please visit www.infowars.com

Search for Alex Jones' videos and many others on www.video.google.com and www.youtube.com

You don't have to believe him but just watch his videos. Look at all of the resources all through out his site.

We can fight back against this evil.
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Stop the madness!
by bustaballs May 29, 2006 12:18 AM PDT
Yet another major step toward dictatorship. It's only a matter of time. Our constitution is being torn to shreads by our "so called" leaders. They keep saying all of this is for our "security".

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

This is suppose to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. We are losing more and more freedoms every day and where are our brave patriots? Oh yeah! Hiding behind this future dictatorship's illusion of security.

"If you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." -- Benjamin Franklin

This is evil. The patriot act is evil. The gun bans are evil and so is everything else that tears apart the US Constitution. Don't follow these people. Protect your freedoms! Protect your Constitutional rights. Get guns if you don't have them.. while you still can.

Don't be so gullible as to follow everything your government tells you. They even show on The History Channel about how we knew about the Pearl Harbor attacks way beforehand. It's fact.

It's happened far more times than just that. The government never gives you the full story. What was on the 12 surveillance tapes that they never released to the US during the OK City bombing? They said nothing was on them. Why not prove it?
Who was John Doe #2? Will the people ever know?

There's plenty of evidence of the truth on what happened on 9/11 out there. There is even videos that have NO crazy conspiracy theorys in them.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911+eyewitness

That video is pure live footage of a man who recorded what happened himself. They then use scientific laws and mathematics to find out what happened.

If you are interested in further information please visit www.infowars.com

Search for Alex Jones' videos and many others on www.video.google.com and www.youtube.com

You don't have to believe him but watch his videos Look at all of the resources all through out his site.

We can fight back against this evil.
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Help save America before it's too late!
by bustaballs May 29, 2006 12:23 AM PDT
Yet another major step toward dictatorship. It's only a matter of time. Our constitution is being torn to shreads by our "so called" leaders. They keep saying all of this is for our "security".

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin

This is suppose to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. We are losing more and more freedoms every day and where are our brave patriots? Oh yeah! Hiding behind this future dictatorship's illusion of security.

"If you make yourselves sheep, the wolves will eat you." -- Benjamin Franklin

This is evil. The patriot act is evil. The gun bans are evil and so is everything else that tears apart the US Constitution. Don't follow these people. Protect your freedoms! Protect your Constitutional rights. Get guns if you don't have them.. while you still can.

Don't be so gullible as to follow everything your government tells you. They even show on The History Channel about how we knew about the Pearl Harbor attacks way beforehand. It's fact.

It's happened far more times than just that. The government never gives you the full story. What was on the 12 surveillance tapes that they never released to the US during the OK City bombing? They said nothing was on them. Why not prove it?
Who was John Doe #2? Will the people ever know?

There's plenty of evidence of the truth on what happened on 9/11 out there. There is even videos that have NO crazy conspiracy theorys in them.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911+eyewitness

That video is pure live footage of a man who recorded what happened himself. They then use scientific laws and mathematics to find out what happened.

If you are interested in further information please visit www.infowars.com

Search for Alex Jones' videos and many others on www.video.google.com and www.youtube.com

You don't have to believe him but watch his videos Look at all of the resources all through out his site.

We can fight back against this evil.
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Wow...
by SparkyDude03 May 29, 2006 12:20 PM PDT
It's hard to believe, but probably not even two weeks ago, I would have called you a crazy fanatic. But today, I actually agree with some of your points.

We are stripping away our own rights in the name of security and peace. Kind of ironic how that all happens.

-David
You're Take...
by SparkyDude03 May 29, 2006 12:37 PM PDT
What is everyone's take on this little piece of tech?

http://www.verichipcorp.com/content/company/verichip#implantable
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Mark of the beast
by openedeyes June 24, 2006 6:48 PM PDT
Gee, I wonder if that 16 digit code has 666 anywhere in it. That
is beyond intrusuve (the implant). Is this the "Liberty" our fore-
fathers tried to gaurantee in our U.S. Constitution? I hope to be
killed before I would submit to that.
reply to "...piece of tech?"
by openedeyes June 24, 2006 6:48 PM PDT
Gee, I wonder if that 16 digit code has 666 anywhere in it. That
is beyond intrusuve (the implant). Is this the "Liberty" our fore-
fathers tried to gaurantee in our U.S. Constitution? I hope to be
killed before I would submit to that.
You're Take...
by SparkyDude03 May 29, 2006 12:38 PM PDT
What is everyone's take on this little piece of tech?

http://www.verichipcorp.com/content/company/verichip#implantable

I know we were talking about Real ID, but this isn't a far cry off either. The Real ID would be our 'paper' hard copy, but don't you think it'd only be another step away from putting all that info in electronics completely?
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???
by _cynthia June 23, 2006 3:44 PM PDT
Are we going to have a chance to vote on this, and if not, why not?
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???
by _cynthia June 23, 2006 3:45 PM PDT
Are we going to have a chance to vote on this, and if not, why not?
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Oh my gosh. What can we do?
by alaskan_pup July 1, 2006 1:48 PM PDT
What can we do to change this? Is it inevitable? If we can't change it, should I just pack up my kids and move out of the country? If so, which country ? Anyone have any ideas? Write your congressman? I dn't think that will do any good...
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you can do something
by KOCCO321 November 25, 2006 10:39 AM PST
Go to www.nonationID.com and sign a petition against the Nation ID. Card. 100,000 signatures are needed and will get the attention of lawmakers quickly. Beccause it says you will not vote for anyone knowly who backs the The National Id card.
It's here 666
by WarriorForGod July 18, 2006 2:07 PM PDT
A couple years ago I read where a company out of Florida had designed, manufactured and implemeted a special chip that can be inserted under the skin via a hypodermic kneedle implant. This chip will store all of your personal info.

The Real ID Card is simply a disguised forerunner of this chip. The whole deal is insidously masked under the word "protection."

Protection from terrorism, illegal immigration, identity theft etc...

2 of those 3 could be accomplished by simply protecting our borders. There is no need for an ID card or chip implant.

Read the book of Revelations (Bible). Prophesy is being fulfilled. 1st the card - then the implanted chip. Without it you will not be able to collect income from any source, buy or sell, own property, a car, a bank account, a driver's license, get medical attention and you will be outcast if not hunted.

We have already become a cashless society. The card and/or chip will also soon take place of your personal credit cards. You'll simply use the Real ID Card or an implanted chip (next step) to pay bills and conclude transactions.

This is the ultimate tracking device. Your liberty, existence, and even your ultimate destiny are now at stake.

Use your head - due your due diligence. Read the prophetic books of the Bible, especially the Book of Revelations, your choices, the decisions you make now are VITAL.

Don't take this lightly - don't dismiss it. Do your research. We, Americans, are in critical danger. This is no joke and the mark of the beast - Satan - is coming soon to a town near you. You have until May 11th, 2008. The final count down is here and you can call this new card whatever you like but it is the beginning of total destruction of our way of life as we now know it.

This has been planned for years. The power people have been secretly building the "New World Order" which will be run by the Anti-Christ. This is no joke.

DO YOUR RESEARCH now because you don't have much time before you will be given a definite ultimatum. The way you choose will be the most important choice of your life - period.

A good site with a lot of information is:
http://endtime.com/

Hopefully you are not hard hearded or to ignorant to realize you may not have the real truth in what you believe the RealID Card might be. IF you are believing what is told to you via our top leaders and past leaders of this country you will be duped just as we were with "The Victory Tax" during WWII.

Trust me - things are coming to a close and it won't be a pretty picture.

I wish everyone that reads this the best and I sinserley hope you make the right choice.
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OMG, ARE YOU SERIOUS!!??
by Troxinator_Dan July 25, 2006 12:27 AM PDT
OMG, ARE YOU SERIOUS!?? GET REAL! WHO THE HELL IS GONNA ALLOW SOMEONE TO IMPLANT A TRACKER CHIP IN SOMEONE? I'M GONNA BE A DOCTOR, AND I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU; THAT, IS WAY UNETHICAL, ILLEGAL, AND NO ONE IS GOING TO SUPPORT IT. YOU ARE JUST A CONSPIRATOR!!!!!!!!!!!

What doctor in his or her right mind would ever allow themselves to put a human being in pains way (even if only for a moment) for a chip that has personal information on it? NO ONE! That is the most retarded thing I've heard all summer. The government isn't a big bad wolf that's out to get you... believe me, my dad works for the government, and I know how it works, apparently better than you do. How can you say something like that, burn your own country's foundation and still live here? MOVE OUT IF YOU"RE SO PARANOID!!

-Dan Troxell, 16
Yelm High School
Washington State
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It?s inevitable.
by acjohnston July 26, 2006 8:03 AM PDT
The 2nd coming of Christ our Lord and the Anti-Christ are not things that we are going to be able to stop. Revelations and the prophecies will happen. We know the signs to look for, so as believers we should continue walking the narrow path and spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. Our treasure and victory are not on this world, but in heaven. I don?t welcome the Anti-Christ, but I?m also looking forward to meeting my maker when the time comes. Be strong in your faith and walk in light.

Godspeed
AJ
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....here's the interesting part
by topherobyrne July 24, 2006 5:08 AM PDT
Through college I worked as a manager for a major pizza chain....not only are systems similar to this ALREADY IN PLACE, but thru several agreements between the pizza chain and advertising sponsors, we were aggressively encouraged to get as much information about each customer as possible. "It will be better customer service" they said. The more people that believe that this is the only result of such systems, the closer I get to Canada, and leaving the robots here in the US.
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Real ID
by K9er August 11, 2006 9:38 AM PDT
If you don't mind: "WITHOUT YOU KNOWING" that many others know who you are and where you live or what medication you take etc.

Passing any cop and he knows who you are.
Possibly any politician & he knows who you are.
Entering any building and someone there knows who you are.
Entering a bathroom stall & someone knowing it's you.
At the checkout at a supermarket they know who you are.
You meet a certain young lady privately and someone knows.
Someone's cell phone reads your private info.
You go to Mac Donalds and they know who you are!
Everywhere you go SOMEONE KNOWS & CAN WATCH AND TRACK YOU.
Think I'm paranoid? This technology already exists just waiting for you.
Don't allow it.
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