Comments on: FAQ: How Real ID will affect you

In 2008, a federally approved ID card may be required to travel, open a bank account, even collect Social Security.
Photos: Electronic IDs are catching on

Homeland Security???

I do not feel secure. I feel SCARED

[CyberWoLfman]

Let me spell it out for you.

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www.cyberwolfman.com/blog_2005.htm

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Enjoy your momentary enlightenment before you get tagged, sheeple! ;-)

After all, this IS going to happen, whether you will it, or no...

- CyberWoLfman

Repeal the Real ID Act

As a Patriotic American, I am outraged that the Congress ?snuck? this piece of legislature into the War Appropriations bill. It did not have ANYTHING to do with military funding. If the Real ID Act was so necessary to national security, then we have taken the time to debate it on its own merits. By attaching it to the War Appropriations Bill without any hearings to expose its flaws, the Congress and Senate have acted traitorous to their own constituents.
Because of this, within three years, we, the American people will be living in a police state. That is, you will need this ID to travel, open a bank account, get a job, and other commonplace activities. The Real ID Act creates a centrally coordinated database of highly personal information about American citizens. ?At a minimum?, your name, date of birth, gender, driver?s license or ID number, digital photograph, place of residence, signature, security features to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication, and all this must be have a common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements.
Will the security features be a retinal scan, fingerprint, or DNA, which will be unique to each of us? Will the common machine-readable technology be something innocuous such as a magnetic strip or will it be a passive broadcasting technology such as an RFID chip? We don?t know, and won?t have any control over these options because the Homeland Security Secretary is listed as the one to make the decision about such things.
The infringement on privacy is clear, but the unnerving language in the bill on the security features and the common machine-readable technology is open-ended, at best, and terrifying, at worst. These items are NOT SPECIFIED, and will, presumably, be determined by the ?all powerful and all knowing? Homeland Security Secretary.
The possibility and probability for abuses of the data by the federal government is very probable, and the goldmine for identity thieves is in the common machine-readable technology with all that juicy data.
Due to the far-reaching and long-term effects that it will have upon the American public, the Real ID Act should have been debated in open hearings. Instead, it was slipped into the war appropriations bill, which had no connection whatsoever to the Real ID Act. This is a travesty.
If the American public wakes up, the Real ID Act will be challenged, and then repealed.

United States of Dictatorship!!!!

This is without a doubt, the end of our country as a democracy. We must prepare to be monitored, our lives controlled and micro-managed; we will no longer be free to question authority. We will be told where to go, and when.

If this goes through, we are no longer the USA, but we become the Dictatorship of the new millenium. I'm not sure there's even a way to prevent the bullying, terrifying power of those who lead this country. They will stop at nothing to make sure we are no longer able to make choices, but live in a military state.

[Ian Rodriguez]

Don't you read your history?

Giving up any freedoms is not worth your life. It's 100% not worth my life. I was taught all my life that this is supposed to be a free country. When our government resembles a Facist Republic rather than a Democratic Republic, has all our losses in war and terror been in vain? I'm sorry but, if you don't beleive freedom is worth dying for, you don't deserve it.

Expect a trainwreck!

In light of fiascos experienced by Time Warner and others in managing and protecting large databases containing employee and customer identification("inadvertant disclosures"), we can expect "Real ID" to be a colossal failure.

Try to stay clear!

[bevis3155]

I only have ONE comment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

First Amendment of the Bill of RIGHTS.

and;

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Ill shut up now.... NOT

serriously, i dont think so

ok is there anyone else who sees a problem with this? this is one of the most disturbing pieces of news i have heard in a long, long time. the sad thing is, I think the US as a whole is going to bow down, and bend over, and take it.

Real ID

In your article written on May 6th you covered a very big story in a very small way. You didnt once challenge the constitutionality of the prospect. shame on you.

Real I.D. Is a Farce

Real I.D. is a Farce

When you renew your driver's license, who authenticates your proof of identity? What document forensics training did they get? The answers to these questions really do matter.

In the state of New Jersey, we have six point system where certain types of bearer-specific documents are given 1 to 3 points each. When I presented my Louisiana Birth Certificate to a cute, shy twenty-something reading a book behind the counter at the Division of Motor Vehicles, she looked at it and said, `WOW' (emphasis added) `its so big!' I asked if she had ever seen a Louisiana Birth Certificate before and she said, `in the two years i've worked here, no.'

After handing her a credit union cash deposit receipt, she held it up to the light and handed it back to me after a quick glance. I asked wha exactly she was looking for. She advised - things like `funny markings that don't look right, eraser marks.'

The final `proof' of identiy I presented was my social security card. After a quick glance and a smile, she slid it back across the counter to me, without even picking it up off the counter.

I was impressed with her ability to conduct a diligent forensics exam of my three forms of I.D. before taking my picture and giving me a `Real I.D.'

When one is given a `Real I.D.,' either by the state Division of Motor Vehicles, or what ever governmental office is authorized to distribute them, they are then be free to go out and obtain other forms of identification, and gain inappropriate access (ie: an airline seat) predicated upon a `Real I.D.,' obtained from an official who was not qualified (in forensics document analysis) to discern the authenticity of any of the documents given them.

This isn't rocket science folks. Now who is kidding who here?

And when did a `Real Driver's License' ever force a driver to drive under the speed limit? I have nine points on my driver's license, and I earned every one of them. An accomplishment not possible without a `Real Driver's License!'

New Jersey has a lot of financial institutions - banks, savings and loans, credit unions, and a multitude of investment firms offering savings accounts, each of which generate and give you a statement, every time you make a deposit. My credit union has only a few thousand members, and its not even located in the county inwhich I went to renew my driver's license. I wonder what authentication template she compared my barely legible cash deposit receipt against? When asked, she confessed that she never heard of my credit union.

To authenticate a twenty, fifty, or hundred dollar bill, one can hold it up to a light and look for the verticle bar imbeded to the side of the off centered portrait. In examining my social security card, she didn't even pick it up off the counter before sliding it back to me.

So much for `Real I.D.'

Now how many people think an alcoholic with a `Real I.D.' is going to stop driving under the influence because they're carrying a `Real I.D.' in their pocket? Convince just one of the 40,000 motorists in this country who are going to lose their lives over the next twelve months on America's highways that the `Real I.D.' is going to diminsh the carnage on our highways, or spare one of them a trip to an early grave.

The terrorist highjackers which gave us 9/11, couldn't have done it without a `Real Visa' issued by the Departments of State and Immigration and Naturalization Service. With government talent like those staffing our Department of State and I.N.S., who needs terrorists?

Proponents of the `Real I.D.' are nuts. But in America, stupidity remains God given, and constitutionally protected!!!

/s/ Mike P.

[KOCCO321]

It is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WWII-Hitler created a National Id. for Germany and slaughter millions of people. He also took the guns away and burned books. History always repeats itself. I beg you, do not be believe the government smokescreen. You will be sufficated.

[apprin2000]

Behold A Pale Horse

Read the book; "Behold A Pale Horse" by former U.S. Military Intelligence Officer, William Cooper. Mr. Cooper had a sudden case of conscience and decided to tell the world of the darkest plans, internationally orchestrated, from within every organized government on the planet. This has been planned for a very long time and no matter who is placed in political power, the plan will unfold ... so long as it is done gradually and the illusion of a battle between good and bad are offered to voters so that they may feel empowered in their "voting" for a leader. It actually does come down to a battle of good and evil in the end. Pretty exciting, I think. Quite obvious also. One little wrinkle was added recently when the French elected not to allow a unified Europe. You see, the plan calls for unified Europe, unified North America and numerous other "unifications" before the official world government is empowered. What a hoot this is going to be to watch!!!

Waiting for the other shoe to drop

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
Book of Revelation, chapter 13, verses 6 & 7.
Holy Bible

Wow I feel safer knowing that big brother can ID me

This is just the way that Communism and the Third Reich were born. You would think that our so called represenatatives would know a thing or two about history. But it appears that they can't read. The only thing that they are any good at is taking our rights away. Let's see here, isn't it against the Constitution to make un-funded demands on the States?

Are we really free or is that just a rumor?

Our founding fathers would roll over in their graves if they could see what the government has done. Isn't it supposed to be the people giving power to the government?

[ForestRJ]

Welcome to Amerika

This whole National ID thing, while good in its theory, would be bad in its application. This reminds me of Nazi Germany, when the citizens of Germany had to carry similar Government ID/Papers. Although the intent was to keep a close eye on the Jews and other Non-German citizenry (as the Nazi?s described them as be the ?Undesirables?), it still used a nationally recognized and Standardized system, seal and format.

I can see wanting to curb the movement of Terrorists, but I personally do not want to be asked, ?Show me your papers!? My reply will be a sarcastic ?Ja-Vol, Heir Fascist!?

Just my thoughts,
Forest Johnson
Balch Springs, TX

The Real ID Act opens door to prevent Identity Theft

The Real ID Act will open the door to preventing identity theft! My solution or potential addendum to the Act, is one that would require Credit Bureaus and Card Issuers to have permission from consumers to permit transactions.
Thus, stolen social security numbers or credit card numbers would be rendered useless. Consumers would be able to turn their accounts on and off or give permission to specific merchants in just 10-20 seconds via a phone call or online. Users fo the Credit Vault would create their own username and password. For more information visit mycreditvault.com

[shaneh10]

Identity Theft is a Myth...

No one,absolutely no one,can "steal" your identity.When a criminal uses your credit card or debit card they have not,in no way,stolen your identity.The entire ID theft idea was concocted to cover the loss of funds by banks and credit card companies.The illegal use of your credit card is "fraud" against the issueing company !! Not ID theft ! You are not and can not be held responsible for the illegal actions of a criminal using a stolen credit card.The banks have to recoup these expenses,therefore they come after you,it covers their butt,it works in their favor.If it happens to you just remember,it's "fraud" and not "ID theft".

If anything read this one!!!!!!

Hello...Revelations the great ***** that sits upon the water with horns.. thats the statue of liberty 911, they didnt know how to explain it back than, it was our future.This is another sign the mark of the beast, I am not some relgious freak we all believe the same thing have differant words for it, I have studied the end of times for years. but it holds truth..wake up America and be prepared your government is going to take you under, first with gas and high prices be aware! They already track people on the computer. Go back to the old ways. We are a spoiled nation, politicians are taking over and ruling things, it has been written long ago, our children will suffer!

[dragonflysstore]

Total Agreement

I am in total agreement with that. This is just the start of the "mark of the beast"... First they control the travel, then the entrance to places, soon the buy and sell capabilities...they won't stop until they have us all in a nutshell and are controlling us like little puppets. Well, I Got No Strings!!!

[thomas2111]

Bush

It's funny you make a comment like that when you are probably one of the people that complained that the federal government did not respond to the hurricane quick enough. I suppose Bush is responsible for everyone's problems.

[swhello]

bush

So many "big brother" indications are actually happening in the US. If one refuses to see the signs, the government is a friend. If one sees the signs, that person is automatically a conspiracy believer. You know, the fair middle ground here is noticing where power, freedom and money is desired and hoarded. When these three things are needed in a society, government will always compete with the public and society at large. This is so because these (money,freedom power) create leverage over those who don't have those things in considerable quantities. For all of you who hate history, read up. Every country sees the abuse of government over it's own society in different degrees of intensity over time over these very precious values (freedom, money and power). Doesn't anyone really read anymore? I mean more than just the media. Countless books cover these historic battles all over the world. One in particular, the Bible, addressess how the U.S. will lose it's superpower status and turn to a draconian self-contained communistic society. For those who like to joke about how it is written in....wherever; guess what, you're right. It has been written and it is coming true. Those who wake up to the signs of abuse over money, freedom and power do one thing, they find a way to survive- elsewhere, and those who don't, perish. It is that simple. Newspapers, magazines, talk radio, TV, books, internet and any form of media is pointing this out. Anyone with a pair of eyes or ears can connect the dots. The only question is which group are you in? I just hope you are not on the fence, it's rattling pretty hard with those who believe the signs of trouble versus the ones who don't. All of the signs are there whether detailed in the Bible or the media. It's time to decide whether you die or live with the knowledge that is presented to you. The signs do not point to a sudden dramatic cataclysmic event. I-t-'s-h-a-p-p-e-n-i-n-g-v-e-r-y-s-l-o-w-l-y so there's enough room to deny, accept and/or act. The US people remind me of a group of frogs being cooked. The cooker is very slowly being turned up so everyone thinks all is ok. Those who notice he heat jump and leave. I once lived in the U.S., now I don't. I cry inside daily for the ones who stay, you're being cooked. It's going to get ugly sooner than later. Full control over your lives is coming - fast.

[rzambrano]

I OPPOSE IT 100%

I think the Real ID Act is going to affect everybody, legal, illegal, terrorist. Its just not fair to have to show your legal status in order to get your drivers license, Whats next, you are going to have to show your ID in order to go and eat in a restaurant like McDonalds, they are goind to say that in order to eat now you need to be living legally here, its just stupid and ignorant. I dont like the fact that because of this act there are going to be millions and millions of people driving in the U.S. roads without license, without insurance, what if there is an accident, who is going to end up paying for all the damages, me?????? This is a real stupid think they want to do? I personally believe its because they want to stop the illegal immigration, but doing this its just going to make matters worse, people are going to be driving without license, people are going to start losing there jobs, no jobs means no income and no income means no money to the U.S.
I just think this is a pretty stupid think they are trying to do, and i hope it does not get to the point where there will be riots, regarding this issue!!!!

[czar828]

RE: I oppose it 100%

Are you legal? You don't sound like it, so I can understand why you oppose it.