Comments on: The coming crackdown on blogging

Federal Election Commissioner Bradley Smith says the freewheeling days of political expression on the Internet may be about to end.

[lingsun]

False conclusions. We're talking major crap here.

The line, "Bradley Smith says that the freewheeling days of political blogging and online punditry are over.", is just plain garbage. Just because bloggers may someday not be free to link to a candidate's website doesn't mean they will be censored.

regulating links?

How rediculous is this? I mean ..come on people. What are they going to do...fine bloggers for linking to political sites? I think we need a big reality check here.

Dang

Let's see, magazine ediotors have been fired for criticizing Bush, as have Televsion executives, and you see no danger to further censorship?
That sort of naivette is monstrous.

Reader does not understand the concept of censorship

If you are no longer free to link to political campaigns, forward political e-mail, or otherwise share your opinion, then you have already been censored.

Why do so many American's want to abdicate their responsibility for taking care of themselves?

Perhaps we should just trade freedom for security and call it quits.

It isn't crap

This is clearly a case of give them an inch and they will take 5 miles. I discussed it with an attorney and he said it is essentially the end of free political speech on the internet unless you are one of the major licensed (and therfore controlled) media outlets. remeber too that you will not be able to so much as mention the president 60 days before the election or the primary election or the name of any of the canidates even in an impled context. The NRA is fighting this as are gun owners of america because this will severly curtail thier speech. Welcome to the new world order. I personally am leaving the country to a south american address. Personally freedom has been lost here and you just don't know it yet

This doesn't make sense to me

Far be it for me to get into a political debate, but how is linking to a campaign web site different from volunteering to work for that campaign?

It seems to me that there are millions of people who volunteer to work for a campaign in every election, big and small. How does that relate to donating money to a campaign?

If I volunteer to work for a campaign, does that mean I can't contribute the maximum amount of money as well?

[markdoiron]

My Thoughts Exactly (About Volunteers)

as i read the article i had the same conclusion (that we don't meter a volunteer's time to a campaign, so why an internet link that a volunteer put up?).

as for whether blogger's deserve a journalist's exemption: no one requires a journalist's exemption for political discourse in this country--read the first amendment.

as far as i'm concerned, if someone wants to declare himself a "journalist" or "policital commentator" or whatever, that's fine with me. there's nothing that gives the traditional news media special breaks that others can't have simply by declaring themselves a news media outlet. Thomas Payne must be rolling in his grave at suggestions otherwise.

mark d.

not necessarily

links can be placed for many other reasons than helping the linked site (or any cause represented).
i often link to most anything i'm talking about on a site. makes for a more interesting web page. hell, it's what the world wide web is all about. a visual interface, easily navigated with clicks of the mouse.

and another reason is that links can affect page status and rank.

not to mention all the free speech rights issues this legal dispute brings up.

anyway, if you've got anything to say, get me here.

[fgoldstein]

Declan's partisanship showing again

You're right... The FEC isn't regulating the Internet, nor is it regulating private bloggers, or folks who state their opinion, or even folks who state their opinion and choose to link to campaign sites. The issue is campaign expenditure that really does seem to be under the party's control, or that effectively constitutes a donation that crosses the campaign limit. If a major contributor puts up a web site (say, let's call it "GOPUSA" or "Talon News") that largely republishes party press releases, then perhaps it is a campaign expenditure.

Then There's an Easy Solution...

Telling bloggers and others what they can and can't say is
indeed a logical consequence of the campaign financing laws
that limit what political campaigns can spend. So the obvious
solution is not to pretend that this is somehow consistent with
the "no law" the Constitution says can be written, but to declare
the campaign financing reform law unconstitutional as it should
have been the moment it was enacted. The government has no
business telling either bloggers or politicians how much they
can say or how much they can spend to say it.

--Brian

What's Next? Ban Bumperstickers?

I fail to see the difference between a link on a web site and a bumpersticker supporting a candidate on a car or placing a sign in my yard. These people are going way to far and moving towards impeding on freedom of expression.

Blogga Sierra

I'd love to see Judge Hyphen-Link try to ban me from hyperlinking to a political campaign and discussing the issues in a blog. Are they going to send Gonzales over to torture me if I fail to cease and de-link? No way.

Thumb. Nose.

it is the FEC commissioner

the judge in question is not the one who is demading that.. it is the FEC commissioner who alleges that you might be obliged to by the FEC as a result of the (logical) extension of McCain-Feingold to the Internet...

Also in the news: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/technology/11049112.htm
this judge may have actually done some harm, but i still expect it to get fixed.

Don't let 'em!!

If it does actually go as far as bloggers being prevented from linking to a campaign website, then it's simply up to us citizens of this free country to speak up loudly enough to reverse the decision. If this type of censorship takes place and stays in place, then we have only ourselves to blame for being weak, submissive wimps who allow our freedoms to be chipped away little by little.

It's been a problem ever since the establishment of this great nation of ours. Our founding fathers battled it out among themselves, with those on one side fighting for very little government and those on the other side vying for more government. It's the same battleground today, but it sure seems that those who want to control and regulate us to submission are winning their battles through the judges who sit on federal courts. Come on Americans! Don't let 'em!!

Complete insanity...

I imagine that somebody standing on a street corner with a sign is contributing at a rate at least equal to the minimum wage and probably more like whatever they actually make per hour. I find it deeply disturbing that they are so concerned about an unregulated internet. Why not regulate the content of phone calls too? I pray that the priciples behind free speech haven't decayed to the point that draconian nonsense like this can actually be considered.

[RavingEniac]

Bushco hates competition

Bush and his corporate accomplices feel like they quite effectively own the broadcast and print media, so that not many of them are protesting Bush's lies and deceptions like they should. Now they want to restrict average citizens from speaking up and saying what they believe should be said, and restrict the support given to opposition candidates, trying to bring about one-party rule, leaving perhaps half of the population disenfranchised even from speaking their mind in public discourse.

[gary sayre]

How far

Say a poor working stiff dressed in a costume of the statue of liberty a few weeks ago. He was freeezing his tail off as it was about thirty nine degres with a strong wind blowing. He was, more than likley minium wage, or the owners son.
Trying to get passing motorists to stop in at the resturant he was in front of. It was an Mexican resturant. I love the mexican people, but I cannot tolerate illegal people, whatever or wherever they come from. Yes we are a nation of imagrants! But we are a nation of LEGAL imigrants. How offensive is this message? Shame the statue of liberty for a hot tamale! Boy! what deal.

Vigorous enforcement needed

It's an outrage that people can support any candidate they want, without prior authorization. I certainly hope our appointed officials will use all available wiretaps and AI to detect this unacceptable, double-plus-ungood behavior.

At least with TV, they can block such misbehavior with the digital rights enforcement chips going into all tv sets.

I long for America's return

It was only a few years ago that this was a free country with
a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. There are no rights
anymore, and now we see what happens when the soul of a
country is lost: suppression of free speech, indentured
servitude to the credit card companies and the medical/
industrial complex, loss of habeus corpus, destruction of
the environment, the list is endless. These people will stop
at nothing, as evidenced by blatant rigging the electoral
process,

The way things are going, soon TalkBack will be illegal.
Very, very, very, very sad.

You are absolutely correct

We are living in a state of Fascism and sliding further into the abyss everyday. If it wasn't for the blogs, many of us responsible people who take the time to find the truth would really be in trouble. I strongly feel blogs have kept the Bush crime family from seizing full control of government. We must keep fighting to protect the USA even for those people unaware how evil this administration truly is.

[cpo99]

Free Speech

I think you have it wrong. Its not the administrtion who's behind
this but Democrats. They're sore about losing the election
because it was Bloggers who stopped their plot to destroy the
President.
The Bill of Rights says that CONGRESS shall make no laws
concerning the free exercise of speech, religion, etc. However,
our Forefathers couldn't foresee the rise of bureaucrats who
would try to circumvent the BoR through other means. It will be
very sad indeed if Congress allows this to happen.
Amazing that after all this time, that the kind of speech the
Fathers sought to protect (political free speech) might be
curtailed by some bureaucrat while pornography and other filth
goes on as protected free speech. How perverse is that!
Very sad indeed.

Elitest.

Have you ever compared the rhetoric some of the lefties on here spew to the Soviet slogans and propaganda? "bring down the capitalist pig bush and up with the glorious red-- I mean blue party...." Tell me why would the current administration ban a forum where their own idealogy is being propigated? Doesnt make much sense to me. anyone with half a brain could see that the majority of the rational responses on this particular issue have been conservative while the more hysterical comments are left in origin.

[abitcrazy]

major crap is happening every day!

You are so right. You must be plugged into the voice of the people. I am fearful of what will happen, oh - maybe I should say - what WONT happen, when they steal the next election. Do you think the lazy American public will pull itself away from the video games and mp3 players to defend their birthright? I hope so. It seems that most young people, who should be picking up the torch of freedom and dissent, are too awash in ******** and materialism to be concerned. They are asleep at the helm.

Re: The coming crackdown on blogging

Next will be word of mouth contribution limitations.

Report your neighbor who is in advertising for trying to convince to vote for his/her candidate, illegally.

Guerrilla marketing by an industry insider is actually a service contribution to the candidate's campaign.

At the very least, all neighbors (friends and family, too) must be forced to preface all political statements or participation in discussions or conservations with a disclosure statement that identifies their party registration, cash contributions, and whether their expenditure of hot air has been 'approved by the candidate' they are about to support.

Only seems fair.

Art Keating
Boca Raton, FL

blog this!

The Federal Election Commission is reminiscent of a group of squabbling boys, pushing for power and position, at the behest of utter expediency.

Give us a break, Bradley.

Why don't you fellows invade the bingo parlors of America, where real political realities are likely discussed?

How about the office water coolers and lunch rooms across our free, democratic land?

You citizens best hush up. No discussing or promoting politics. And no blogging.

The FEC might be listening.


Advocate
http://tinyurl.com/5e92l

They're listening!

They are listening - and there are paid bloggers who post to spin the truth - like we have all been victims of before!

[markdoiron]

There Might Be Some Good In This

not that my political principals agree in any way with the article; much less the ludicrousness of what the is said by the interviewee. but, if this censorship (that's the only word that fits) became reality and could be extrapolated to all those ridiculous political e-mails i received the last few years, that might be a good thing. they're much worse than traditional spam. most folks are smart enough to ignore that. but those political e-mails had plenty of folks forwarding them around as if they were the gospel truth.

mark d.

not a strong argument

That's like saying someone read the DaVinci Code and believed every word to be fact when it was essentially 100% fiction base on some facts embellished enough to make the story work. Wait a minute, now that I think about it, you're right: sounds like standard political practice! ;-)

Why are the liberals trying to take my livelihood?

They can't do this!

Look, I barely eek out a living as it is. But with the Bush people giving me hundreds of dollars extra last year for re-printing their material in my blog, I was able to get along a lot more comfortably.

And now the liberals on some committee are going to take that away from me?

- - -

OK, not really. But I could totally imagine something like that going on. While I think this trend smacks of censorship - and worse, censorship of political opinion by a government agency - I can see some of the fundamentals that they are trying to put a stop to. It reminds me of the concept of "walking around money".

The Liberals?

Some people never cease to amaze me. This is the liberals' fault? Umm, did you forget it was a LIBERAL blog that began the wave of political bloggers raising money to begin with? Do you remember HOWARD DEAN? Yes, Howard Dean! He raised the most money for the Democratic party than any one else -- using a blog. So, the LIBERALS stand to lose just as much as you do.

Remove your head.

So where are the free speech advocates on this issue?

Looks like another attempt to control the dissemination of information to me. The whole campaign finance reform act has had no effect except to limit who can speak out on an issue. So, if this gets extended to the internet it will give the network news some peace knowing that bloggers can no longer get the truth out when the media decides to lie. This stinks of censorship. Whatever happened to the First Amendment?

[Jane in KC]

Darn good point!

You are so right. I guess "free speech" is only an issue when some far-out weirdo behavior is in danger.

The Bill of Rights

Our first amendment rights along with the rest of our civil rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights went out the window with the enacting of the Patriot Act. If Congress fails to allow it to sunset this year then the Patriot Act remains the law. And the folks that brought us the Patriot Act aren't done yet by a long shot. The only hope we have is the public dissemination of information via the internet. God knows there isn't a free press any longer not when it's totally owned by six corporations.

Some people are fighting back

This is the type of thing that will generate bloggers fighting back. CBS News thought that it had some sort of press immunity . . . until it got a story wrong, and it was the bloggers who caught them.

This is something completely new in communications, a way for people to express their opinions and not have the government or publishers restrict their access. The things that so many people have thought before can now be said, and said to a larger audience than ever before; it's no longer just grousing to your friends.

My method of fighting back is to note this on my website, commonsensepoliticalthought.com, and to spread the word to other websites. We may wind up disagreeing on some of the content that people self-publish, but all of us in this new medium have an interest in seeing that anyone can say what he wants, to whomever he wants, without the government restricting our rights.

Justice Hugo Black delivered a lecture back in 1960 on the Bill of Rights, written much better than anything I can write. It's linked on my website, if you're interested.

Well guess what?

they won't be able to stop us from getting the information out. This is the new information highway - and although they have tried to lasso it and control it like they control the media there is not a chance. This is the revolution and they will see us continue doing what we do.

[nzamparello]

Constitutional Violation

This is a very clear threat to the 1st amendment to the constitution and it's also censorship in its most basic form....

What Constitution?

Our government stopped using the Constitution 4 years ago when the people allowed an election to be stolen. The American people simply allowed our government to take our voices away. Regardless of the outcome of the election, every true American should have taken to the streets in protest because no American should be above the Constitution of the United States!

What's Next?

Are there going to be Gestapo hanging around on street corners listening to converstations?
I look at the internet blogs more like on line conversations that talk about all kinds of stuff. Will there be a ban on talking about cats? Will there be a pennalty that has to be paid to the local Humane Society if we talk about Mane ***** instead of Tabby's? Watch Dogging Internet converstaions would be like pennalizing thinking. When friends talk to each other, is their a charge? What's next, Banning cell phone text messaging?
I am waiting for some uniformed person to come up and say "Show Me Your Papers". Come ON Sheesh!!!

[Michael Grogan]

Show me your papers...

have you been paying attention to the attempts to institute a national ID or make driver's licenses work like one? Did you notice when the supreme court upheld the police's right to demand ID from someone on the street? The gestapo are already here and they're already asking to see our papers!

When hell freezes over!

We either have free speech or we don't. If Cnet gets to publish then so do I.

You can bet that I will be writing everybody I can to see this through.

Regulation of political speech on the Internet is simply a way of telling those of us who have an uncomfortable opinion to "go away" lest we disturb the masses.

That's about as unAmerican as it gets folks.

I'm a blogger and my blog is located at: http://www.opengeek.org

Google search for OpenGeek or goto opengeek dot org.

[amadensor]

The correct way to take care of this

If it does become illegal to link to a political campaign website, there is only one answer. The electronic equivelent of civil disobedience. Everyone get a free Geocities or Anglefire or whatever site, and link to your favorite campaign. When they have arrested the entire populace, then maybe they will notice that the fist amendment might have something to do with this. It was specifically to protect political speech. When the govenment oversteps its bounds, it is time for the people to step up and violate the unconstitutional law. However, be ready to take the hit. Remember that standing up is of no value unless you are willing to take the punishment, because the inappropriateness of the punishment is part of the deal. I have no links to any political groups on my site, because I am in IT, and that is what my site is about, however, if it becomes illegal, I just may.

What is next? Taking a stand on an issue that obviously supports what one candidate believes over another? The thought police cannot be allowed to take over, but a lot of people are going to have to take some undeserved punishment before the majority are going to take notice.

[andrewp111]

It won't happen

The enforcement powers of the Federal Government are vast, especially if private suits can be used for enforcement, and I don't think most people, with the exception of political activists who protest for a living, will be willing to willfully commit a felony. Especially, when the nature of the internet makes automated enforcement possible. The Supreme Court has already ruled that McCain-Feingold is fully constitutional. It is highly unlikely that they will be willing to revisit that ruling for at least several decades. In addition, Congress is going to apply decency standards to cable and satellite, and the internet naturally follows next. We are entering an era of content regulation of the internet.

[RavingEniac]

Pfffft---sorry, FEC, not FCC

Got some crossed eyes or synapses today!

I don't get it.

Both parties have spent hundreds of millions of dollars.
I wonder what blogs cost them.
Are their even paid bloggers?
If it's free it's not right?
Come on this could save money or at least be an inexpensive alternative.
It's a great way of expressing free speech and reaches many people.
I really believe the political elite and the large media corporations are seeing the bloggers as a legitimate threat.
What threat? Knowledge is power and we may just be empowered. The politicians may just be held accountable.
Times are changing and some don't like the direction?
We have a right to hear the truth.
We have a right to decide the truth for ourselves.
We have the right to speak the truth.

Frank,

And Rich People Too

I entirely agree, but let's get back to the root of this thing. The
original idea was that people with a lot of money had too much
influence over campaigns and the campaign finance reform folks
originally violated the Constitution with regard to the speech of
rich contributors, political parties, media organizations, etc. by
limiting how much they could speak and spend promoting their
speech. We need one set of laws for everyone and if it's
illegitimate to shut up little bloggers and folks with a political
link on their cat's home page then it's also illegitimate to tell a
millionaire that he can't give $10,000 to his favorite campaign.

Let's trace this back to the root and kill it. Everyone has a right
to free speech, even rich people and political parties. Let's
repeal this whole campaign finance reform thing lock, stock, and
barrel.

--Brian